Below the Surface of P4

  • Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1275902

    on the MN side.

    Notice the size of the fish and the depth? Wink, wink, nod, nod, say no more, say no more.

    If you have any buddies that fish the scour hole’s deep water, here’s a good video to show them. There are better fish in shallower water than 30 to 60 feet.

    No background music or me singing, so it’s work safe.

    Jack Naylor
    Apple Valley, MN
    Posts: 5668
    #1041189

    Very nice Brian, and excellent teaching moment.

    Jack

    hairjig
    Cudahy, Wis.
    Posts: 937
    #1041203

    Excellent presentation BK!! a good lesson learned..

    sodak
    Andover, MN
    Posts: 133
    #1041212

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1041215

    Smallmouth fishing without pug? Pug sad.

    I’d like you to show me the study that fish caught deeper than 25′ will die. That is a little shallow and a little liberal.

    Denny O
    Central IOWA
    Posts: 5819
    #1041220

    Brian, Drinking my, I thought I saw something @1:41 through the next 3 seconds,there were 2 fish that had redish dorsil and tails. I didn’t see any white tips and the side colors looked a bit different. Red Snapper eh?

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1041222

    Or perty red horse. Can the spring sucker run come soon enough?

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1041229

    Quote:


    Smallmouth fishing without pug? Pug sad.

    I’d like you to show me the study that fish caught deeper than 25′ will die. That is a little shallow and a little liberal.


    Ok, I was off a few feet.

    9.1 meters = 29.855643 feet

    Either way, by looking at the videos taken in the depths of the scour hole, these fish in less than 25 fow are larger. There might be one fish in the 12 to 14 inch range.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1041232

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Smallmouth fishing without pug? Pug sad.

    I’d like you to show me the study that fish caught deeper than 25′ will die. That is a little shallow and a little liberal.


    Ok, I was off a few feet.

    9.1 meters = 29.855643 feet

    Either way, by looking at the videos taken in the depths of the scour hole, these fish in less than 25 fow are larger. There might be one fish in the 12 to 14 inch range.


    Like they say, without a link, it doesn’t happen. Show me the money. Why you trying to have people keeps flathead scooby snacks?

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1041235

    You didn’t highlight the import parts for me.

    So it is 1/3 for sauger. Yeah, that probably makes sense. If I know 1/3 of the fish I catch are going to die, I’ll probably keep them. Now if people would stop once they get a limit, that’d be nice.

    So this is very similar to kill rates in the middle of summer, no? And is the river any different than a lake? These pens they held them in, if they are shallower than the depth that they were caught, wouldn’t that affect them too? I mean if their air bladders are set for 35′, I’d assume when released they would need to get back to that depth.

    I know. I need to go fishing. I am such a pain in the arse when I have cabin fever.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1041240

    Aren’t you a member of a golf site?

    I hear where your coming from Puggsly. However if there’s a few boats fishing the deep water of the scour hole and they are releasing the small fish, boats down stream always know.

    The floaters belly up aren’t or can’t swim back down to the comfortable level.

    Two years ago the DNR had flyers at the bait shops in the area with their data. The flyer had the 25 foot limit for release.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1041249

    I recant my statement about the pens. That doesn’t make sense at all. Anyone who pulled up a fish from deep water with the air bladder bulging knows that the lower pressure above makes the bladder expand and makes it impossible for the fish to swim to any depth, not to mention impossible to swim up right.

    I’ve also heard the stories on here about hundreds of dead fish that were caught left and right in the scour holes of the dam. 1 person can catch a hundred of these piled up fish and they all end up dying. Makes a limit pointless.

    Sorry for being a jerk on an important subject. I guess it started when you said 25′ and I thought it was a bit shallow. Well, 29′ is not much deeper.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1041254

    Quote:


    Sorry for being a jerk on an important subject.


    We still love ya and it’s understandable being crabby after seeing Jesse pull up that smallie.

    Palerider77
    Posts: 630
    #1041260

    So where do I have to deliver the cookies to?

    Brent Yeakey
    Bloomer, WI
    Posts: 553
    #1041265

    Brian, I noticed when you had the camera out of the water it was still reading 4 feet. So can we assume that the depth reading while you were at the bottom would also be off by 4 feet? That would make the depth those fish were at right now be even more interesting!

    millerman
    Red Wing, MN
    Posts: 627
    #1041280

    BK maybe you should try and find a post about fizzing fish from deeper water to release the air out of their bladders?Just a thought as maybe lots of people don;t know how. Would have less fish die.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1041284

    I am not a big believer in fizzing. Not saying it doesn’t work, but first of all you need to know what you are doing. It doesn’t do much good if you puncture a vital organ in the process. Also, if a hole in the bladder helped, why haven’t they evolved a hole in the air bladder? Personally, I think it just makes the dead fish sink.

    That being said, it would be interesting to see the DNR research the effectiveness of it. I don’t normally run into the situation where I’d have to do it, but if I knew it helped, I would always be prepared to do it. I’d hope other conservation minded people would too.

    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #1041306

    BK, I think that’s just 1 maybe 2 fish zigzagging back and forth around the camera!

    I can tell as they both have a tell-tail (pun intended) white thingy on their tail. Gives ’em away!

    ET

    rmartin
    United States
    Posts: 1434
    #1041307

    I saw the subject of “fizzing” brought up so I will put in my $.02. How many people out there that use this practice use new sterilized needles every time? Do fish have super immune systems that can combat being injected through the skin, flesh and body cavity? How would you like to receive a flu shot from one of these used needles? Just food for thought.

    Brent Yeakey
    Bloomer, WI
    Posts: 553
    #1041310

    Quote:


    I saw the subject of “fizzing” brought up so I will put in my $.02. How many people out there that use this practice use new sterilized needles every time? Do fish have super immune systems that can combat being injected through the skin, flesh and body cavity? How would you like to receive a flu shot from one of these used needles? Just food for thought.


    That is something that goes over looked! Very good thought!

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1041314

    That is an interesting thought. You could spread disease that way.

    However, as an arm chair biologist, I’d think that is a pretty minimal risk factor. And one could argue that what is the difference if no fizzing means death.

    Just a couple thoughts, not meant as a argumentative point.

    lundgeye
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 1209
    #1041322

    Nicely done Brian, thanks for taking this video and posting it for us to enjoy. Thanks Jesse for the boat control.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1041324

    Like normal, I’m confused.

    Clearly saugers can be caught out of the depths of the scour hole-although normally small.

    I told Jesse, it’s time to go because I had at least 200 walleye/sauger on video.

    Why fizz?
    Why fish the deep water?

    Just asking.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1041326

    I thought your Facebook said you were fishing today? Or was that yesterday? I thought it said 8 hours ago.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1041330

    It may have been interpreted as fishing on the river.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1041331

    Wow, I just went back and reread it. I think I am losing it.

    rmartin
    United States
    Posts: 1434
    #1041337

    Quote:


    However, as an arm chair biologist, I’d think that is a pretty minimal risk factor. And one could argue that what is the difference if no fizzing means death.



    Not to brag or anything, but I am a Biologist and know a thing or two about sterility. Here is a much better option web page

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