For all you Jimmie Johnson haters.

  • starvin pilgrim
    Posts: 335
    #1275858

    Just read on Yahoo Sports that the body of his 500 car was seized for an illegal alteration. It doesn’t sound to serious though. My nephew alway said, The reason he wins so often is because they can’t figure out how he’s cheating!

    jason-pitts
    Des Moines, IA and Hager City, WI
    Posts: 196
    #1040266

    Straight from a good buddy who is an old stock car guy…”There are two kinds of drivers….cheaters and losers…which one do you want to be?”

    walleye16
    SE, MN
    Posts: 93
    #1040267

    I drove racecars for five years and that’s the way it is. It’s not cheatin to you get caught.

    look-a-like
    St. Charles, MN
    Posts: 293
    #1040274

    NASCAR officials said the No. 48 car’s C pillars — the posts that connect the roof to the rear deck lid, in between the side and rear windows — were found to be illegally modified, and removed from the vehicle. Hendrick Motorsports was flying replacement pieces down Friday afternoon from team’s headquarters in North Carolina, with plans to weld them onto the car and go back through inspection again, likely Saturday.

    heavychevy
    prole, iowa (close to martinsdale)
    Posts: 190
    #1040297

    just me, but if the only way i could win was to cheat, i would find another hobby. My honor and integrity is worth alot more to me then anything.

    Todders
    Posts: 89
    #1040304

    It is rarely actually cheating for this level of racing anymore. It is considered exploring the grey areas in the rule book ! Or we could watch iroc every weekend

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13478
    #1040339

    I would like to know how much the drivers actually know about the construction of their car. I’m not implying that they are idiots or clueless to the mechanics, but when the actual race car is built, they are not the guys fabricating and welding it together.

    ironheadr5
    Northeast, Iowa
    Posts: 373
    #1040342

    Quote:


    I drove racecars for five years and that’s the way it is. It’s not cheatin to you get caught.


    X2

    They were all small time once, so they know how the car is being buildt would be my anwser.

    heavychevy
    prole, iowa (close to martinsdale)
    Posts: 190
    #1009715

    If they dont know, they need to be getting more involved with whats going on in their team. In my opinion though, its just one more example of how loose our morals have become in todays society. The idea of “its okay as long as you dont get caught” is a poison that is running rampant. Do we really want to nurture or celebrate that type of attitude? If my stepson were to steal something from the store and wasnt caught, I wouldnt be saying ‘way to go.’ I would be marching his little but back in there and he would be owning up for what he did. We set the example for not only our kids, but every kid that is watching us. Make sure its a good one.

    gary d
    cordova,il
    Posts: 1125
    #1040363

    Many moons ago didn’t Harry Gant win alot of races right in a row and they said he was pushing the rule to far.I think I remember he was several laps ahead in each of the races too! It took several races before the other teams caught on to what he was doing. I always like him as a person,I think at the time he was an honest cheater.lol

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1040620

    JJ doesn’t know crap when it comes to his car… Knaus is the cheater. I will say NASCAR is lame in the way they “punish” cheaters. Cheat in Baseball, Cheat in Football and it can cost you your career and any future consideration for HOF and the likes. Knaus should have been bounced years ago… cheating makes you a loser in my eyes

    starvin pilgrim
    Posts: 335
    #1040628

    I mean this towards no one, But I myself have no problem with Gnaus tweaking something for an edge. He gets caught sometimes, but I’ll bet he gets away with it more often. Before anyone condemns me, check your own past for the little things in your life you may have tweaked. May he with out sin, cast the first stone. I think thats how it’s said. And if you can throw said stone, man you must have a boring life.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1040633

    This is aimed at no one in particular… would you cheat in a fishing tourney too ?

    onestout
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 2698
    #1040650

    I know a majority of the time they are not cheating, they just found an edge that there isn’t a rule for yet. Here are a couple examples; the length of the fuel hose, the tank size was specific but the rules never said how much hose could be used to get the fuel to the pump. After a couple races were won because they had enough fuel to make it without pitting and others didn’t NASCAR made a rule of how long the fuel line could be. another one was the number of stages you could run on your oil pump, the more crankcase vaccuumm you pull the more horsepower you can make, the oil pumps in the 80’s used to extend past the back of the engine block. another was the volume of the valve covers and oil pan, similar effect as the extra stages in the oil pump. All of these were legal gray areas that gave the drivers the edge and caused NASCAR to create a rule against it.

    I doubt that JJ has any clue what the aerodynamic engineers are tweaking on his car. This is one of the biggest areas left with gray area simply because of how difficult it is to word in the rules.

    I actually like some of the creativity some teams take to get the edge, one of my favorite examples was when they were welding washers on to hold up the suspensions to pass inspection knowing that they would break off on the first couple laps at daytona. Once the weld would break and the washers were gone the rear of the car would drop out of the wind greatly reducing the drag, one of the reasons there is an after race inspection as well.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1040668

    Wrong shocks ??? Ooops…. hardly innovative. Telling Jimmy before a race, “if we win, make sure to crack the back of the car… do a donut and hit the wall or something” that tells you Jimmy is OK with cheating too. Every championship season, they have been caught cheating Losers

Viewing 15 posts - 1 through 15 (of 15 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.