As you know the current surcharge is a flat $5 for three years,
The new proposal is for
monitoring, and research of aquatic invasive species such as zebra mussel, purple loosestrife, and Eurasian water milfoil in public waters and public wetlands. The
surcharge is:
$10 for a canoe, kayak, sailboat, sailboard, paddle boat, or rowing shell 19 feet in length or less
$20 for a watercraft less than 17 feet in length
$25 for all other watercraft over 19 feet
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As you know the current surcharge is a flat $5 for three years,
The new proposal is for
monitoring, and research of aquatic invasive species such as zebra mussel, purple loosestrife, and Eurasian water milfoil in public waters and public wetlands. The
surcharge is:$10 for a canoe, kayak, sailboat, sailboard, paddle boat, or rowing shell 19 feet in length or less
$20 for a watercraft less than 17 feet in length
$25 for all other watercraft over 19 feet
Yup, that’s their answer for everything just raise taxes…and call it a surcharge.
What about boats that are 18 foot ??? 
Al
“What about boats that are 18 foot ??? “
I guess ours must be free 
Either that or 18′ boats become a loophole 
Allen, I noticed that too. These new proposed bills often are like this, still rough.
This bill was heard today, it was laid over without action. I suspect it will be tweaked and brought back. The issue is money, they want to do more to prevent the spread of AIS and to do so they need to raise $$$. The current surcharge is due to be raised, since $5 for three years isn’t going to fund much.
I’m not sure this is as much a tax as it is a fee. The Hook and Bullet groups have always paid their way for solid Natural Resources management, seeing it as a tax seems to be a new interpretation.
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Either that or 18′ boats become a loophole
You’d better hope that’s the only hole the boat comes with.
Ba-dum ching!
Dnr let the salty ships in the great lakes and there balast, zebera mussels,lamperies, gobies,let barges up the rivers,milfoil, so we should pay?
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Allen, I noticed that too. These new proposed bills often are like this, still rough.
This bill was heard today, it was laid over without action. I suspect it will be tweaked and brought back. The issue is money, they want to do more to prevent the spread of AIS and to do so they need to raise $$$. The current surcharge is due to be raised, since $5 for three years isn’t going to fund much.
I’m not sure this is as much a tax as it is a fee. The Hook and Bullet groups have always paid their way for solid Natural Resources management, seeing it as a tax seems to be a new interpretation.
No, it may technically not be a tax, but like taxes, fees, permits, surcharges, etc, it all costs us more money.
We’ve heard the “It’s not a tax, it’s a fee/?” to many times already.
And considering the morons who are in charge, I’d rather not give them any more of my money.
Al
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Dnr let the salty ships in the great lakes and there balast, zebera mussels,lamperies, gobies,let barges up the rivers,milfoil, so we should pay?
Maybe we could start a Class Action Lawsuit against all the Shipping companies that comes from Foreign Waters along with the Coast Guard, The Corps of Engineers and the Federal Government for Failure to Protect American interests & natural resources.
How about they take the existing money they are already stealing from the outdoorsman of a Mn and cut spending somewhere else? This AIS thing is really, really getting out of control. 
Thanks for the update Buzz,
Is there a matching Senate Bill yet?
I’m not shooting the messenger…but damn it! I’m going to be shooting! (figuratively of course)
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This AIS thing is really, really getting out of control.
How the hell can AIS get this out of wack the same time we vote in a new Governor!
It’s amazing to me that most all sportsman’s organizations that deal with politics are for and support this 100%!
STOP THE INSANITY!!
PS I’m beginning to like the WI DNR and the idea of a fish ladder around L&D #3 more and more every day! 
Follow it here: H.F. 1644 status
Companion in Senate is SF1415:
SF1415 status
I’m off to put my head back in the sand. 
Buzz,
Are you a lobbyist or work in the government in some capacity? Just wondering because you seem to know whats going on in St. Paul before it happens.
As far as the Mississippi goes. Since the feds want to govern it in all other aspects let them foot the bill on this also.
Hey B, I know you are talking to Buzz or Vern Wagner, but I would like to field this one for him.
Vern is a VERY active member of Anglers For Habitat.
Anglers for Habitat is a non-profit alliance of anglers dedicated to the preservation and improvement of aquatic habitat, clean water and fishing in Minnesota.
Since he’s attending these meetings/hearings and is in the loop so to speak with the thoughts of government before most of us…yes, he does know what’s happening in St. Paul before it happens.
No, he’s not in government.
I wish I could be as current on these issues as he stays.
After saying that, I don’t always agree with what he’s saying, but in many cases (as in this one) he’s just trying to inform us of what’s coming down the road.
I called him tonight. I wanted to know “what the hell is going on!”
He urged, almost pleaded with me to come to some of these meetings where he’s the only person trying to stick up for the angler.
The Corp is looking at ways they can open the lock gates less. What’s this mean to us river fisherman that fish on two pools in a day? Delays.
Worse, they are talking about limiting recreational boats to one pool. No fishing P3 and P4 the same day. Some people that won’t bother. Others will just trailer from pool to pool.
But wait! The roller gates at L&D #3 are wide open 15% of the time!! The Vermilion goes around #3!!
See Vern, now you know why I don’t go to those meetings!
They are all freaking NUTZ! (and I say that in the kindest way)
Think it’s just the river? Lake hopping will be a thing of the past as well.
Some of you folks might want to watch the DNR portion of the Senate hearings that was posted in “Ummm, this might be important” thread.
Recreational boating and fishing is about to change in MN.
Over reaction? Watch the Senate video. Read what these people are discussing in St Paul.
The sky might not be falling, but the cost of watching the sky is about to rise.
Thanks!
Seems they are a lobby group by what I can see on-line.
Vern, thanks for keeping us informed.
Just remember, the problem is not the DNR. I don’t think any of this crap has much support from a bulk of the DNR.
It is the legislature. The legislature and money from lake shore property owners who would like to make fishing a pain in the but and to create enough hysteria that the public will be kept off their lakes.
What started off as a joke is starting to go around and around in my head. Why not just forcibly spread all the invasives so we can be done with it.
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The legislature and money from lake shore property owners who would like to make fishing a pain in the but and to create enough hysteria that the public will be kept off their lakes.
TOTALLY AGREE! County Commissioners, Watershed Commissioners, Lake Associations ect are the chicken littles putting pressure on the DNR AND our representatives.
It’s a steam roller that’s not going to stop until more money is spent then can be imagined and the carp (if they are coming) will still be coming.
There is life after Zebra Mussels! ~2012 DNR Roundtable Presenter
They don’t even have to pressure the DNR, other than to paint a picture that they support it and are complicit. The DNR can’t make a law or raise funds without the legislature.
Why are all you rich S.O.Bs afraid to pay your FAIR SHARE? We all need to have skin in the game. What is that in your school lunch? It takes a village.
Dave, my point is…there isn’t a game to put skin in.
I’m not rich although might fit the SOB category, but why should anyone pay for something that isn’t needed?
To do what’s being recommended for AIS right now, and dividing it by the number of boats in MN…it’s going to cost over $2,000.00 per boat.
That’s a lot of skin!
Brian he was being sarcastic. Don’t be so defensive.
BK: eat lead, go pay for a cattle flatulent study and flathead contraception.
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Brian he was being sarcastic. Don’t be so defensive.
Be nice for a icon showing that, or at least a smiley, considering most of us are a bit lacking in our over the inernet mind reading skills.
Al
Lead Study is done, Methane Study is done…but flathead contraception? I’m all in!
I forget which Dave is the true friend to Mother Earth.
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Brian he was being sarcastic. Don’t be so defensive.
Be nice for a icon showing that, or at least a smiley, considering most of us are a bit lacking in our over the inernet mind reading skills.
Al
As long is it isn’t . That’s mine.
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