MN – ID to Vote……

  • Grouse_Dog
    The Shores of Lake Harriet
    Posts: 2043
    #1275773

    I don’t really understand the argument that you should be able to vote without showing valid ID.

    What about age, felons, non- citizens, etc.?

    I have to show my ID to fly, buy booze, buy property, get license tabs, send my kid to daycare, buy hunting and fishing license, etc. The list goes on and on….

    But a constitutional priviledge to vote and it is somehow infringing on my rights to show a valid ID at a polling place. I don’t get the argument.

    “Vote early and vote often…..” is the only argument I understand for not having an ID and showing it to vote.

    Very confused here. Help?

    mower
    Wisconsin, Outagamie
    Posts: 515
    #1038185

    they’ve been arguing that in Wisconsin also. I’m with you whats the big deal. Show an ID to vote, so what. Unless you intend to vote more than once.

    gizmoguy
    Crystal,MN
    Posts: 756
    #1038186

    I don’t believe it is any more diffucult to get a photo ID than it is to go and vote. How can anybody function without a photo ID. nuf said

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1038187

    How else are the non-citizens, gonna make their voice heard ? Some things are so obvious, it even hurts to hear somebody try to justify their thoughts about why ID’s shouldn’t be used….

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #1038188

    Quote:


    I don’t really understand the argument that you should be able to vote without showing valid ID.

    What about age, felons, non- citizens, etc.?

    I have to show my ID to fly, buy booze, buy property, get license tabs, send my kid to daycare, buy hunting and fishing license, etc. The list goes on and on….

    But a constitutional priviledge to vote and it is somehow infringing on my rights to show a valid ID at a polling place. I don’t get the argument.


    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1038192

    Fee:

    Under age 65 – $18

    Age 65 and older – $11

    Duplicate fee – $13.50

    Card for Person with Physical Disability, Developmental Disability or Qualified Mental Illness – $.50

    Expedited (Fast Track) Service – $20 optional fee

    Come on guys, poor people have the right to vote too.

    That’s about the only argument I know, that it disenfranchises people. I submit that the fee isn’t the burden, it is that people are lazy.

    I am not as mad as not requiring ID as I am that you can actually just have someone vouch for you. Any party could just hang around the polling place and ask what party you are before vouching for you.

    TimJones
    Lake Osakis,MN
    Posts: 241
    #1038200

    There won’t be a fee. If this passes anyone that currently does not have an ID will be able to obtain one for free. One of the arguments is that it will be too hard for the seniors because so many of them don’t have a ID. I’m a senior and all I can say is how in the heck do you get to this age without having an ID. You have to show the thing for most everything you do. Get and ID if you want to vote.

    cade-laufenberg
    Winona,MN/La Crosse, WI
    Posts: 3667
    #1038206

    How does this work if you’re in college and from out of state? I think this is where it was a big controversy in WI. For me, I am going to school in MN but from WI. It’s easy for me to just go vote in La Crosse. However, if you’re going to school in Madison but are from California, what would you do if you don’t have a WI ID? Or will they allow the California ID with some sort of proof of residency in WI? Making it harder for College kids to vote is pretty significant, especially since the vote among that age class tends to be fairly one sided. Any advantage certain politicians can get, I guess

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13478
    #1038209

    I think its pretty interesting how it was argued here in WI between Parties (no punn intended) Rep = ID / Dem = No way in ….

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1038212

    Quote:


    How does this work if you’re in college and from out of state? I think this is where it was a big controversy in WI. For me, I am going to school in MN but from WI. It’s easy for me to just go vote in La Crosse. However, if you’re going to school in Madison but are from California, what would you do if you don’t have a WI ID? Or will they allow the California ID with some sort of proof of residency in WI? Making it harder for College kids to vote is pretty significant, especially since the vote among that age class tends to be fairly one sided. Any advantage certain politicians can get, I guess


    I believe you would have to vote via absentee ballot for California?

    carroll58
    Twin Cities, USA
    Posts: 2094
    #1038214

    Quote:


    How does this work if you’re in college and from out of state? I think this is where it was a big controversy in WI. For me, I am going to school in MN but from WI. It’s easy for me to just go vote in La Crosse. However, if you’re going to school in Madison but are from California, what would you do if you don’t have a WI ID? Or will they allow the California ID with some sort of proof of residency in WI? Making it harder for College kids to vote is pretty significant, especially since the vote among that age class tends to be fairly one sided. Any advantage certain politicians can get, I guess


    If you’re from California and a California resident then you should be voting in California either in person or by absentee ballot.

    This is part of the problem, non-residents voting and skewing the vote in other jurisdictions.

    Hence if you’re a Wisconsin resident going to school in Minnesota or just the opposite, it would be pretty simple to vote in both states. Vote Absentee in Wisc. and have a friend vouch for you or bring in your utility bill for your apartment and vote in MN.

    If this all passes, everyone will have an I.D., the only ones that don’t or have a hard time are the Homeless, no permanent address, etc. There are provisions being made to address this issue.

    Grouse_Dog
    The Shores of Lake Harriet
    Posts: 2043
    #1038242

    The odd part is that you can somehow get off your lazy rear end and get to the polling place to vote but you can’t – for the life of you – get to the DMV et al and get an ID.

    I read an article in the Star – Trib and they said that some of the voters addresses turned up to be vacant lots. Nice Touch….

    More BS……

    Dog

    hanson
    Posts: 728
    #1038281

    There is an “almost” easy solution to this…

    Voting Age is 18, age requirement to register with the selective service is 18. Ya’ll remember when you registered with the selective service back in high school? Let’s just print a photo ID at that point that you can use for voter identification.

    Federal law requires all men between the ages of 18-25 to register with the selective service or their are penalties. Wonder how often this is really enforced though.

    mahmoodmahi
    Posts: 30
    #1038295

    I am pretty sure that this is a non issue, just a way to take a stand on something that has never nor will ever be a problem. As the presidential election gets closer I imagine there will be a bunch more of this stuff. Maybe a serious stand being taken both for and against the right to ride mules while carrying long sticks

    g38
    South metro
    Posts: 134
    #1038357

    I lived in Illinois during the reign of King Richard J. Daley. It was an accepted fact that many of Chicago voters would rise up out of their graves and “vote” for the Mayor and his henchm …, er, I mean “officials”.
    Hmmmmm, Chicago style politics, hmmmmm…

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