The Most ‘American Made’ Cars and Trucks

  • fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11929
    #1275698

    Looking to drive American?

    You might wind up in a Toyota Camry or Honda Accord.

    In fact, as the latest ranking of cars and trucks “Made in America” shows, it’s not always Big 3 models with the most parts and labor coming from here in the US.

    According to Cars.com, here are the “most” American made models for sale right now.

    Toyota Camry (last ranking 1)
    Honda Accord (last ranking 2)
    Chevy Malibu (last ranking 5)
    Ford Explorer (no last ranking)
    Honda Odyssey (last ranking 6)
    Toyota Sienna (last ranking 10)
    Jeep Wrangler (last ranking 9)
    Chevy Traverse (no last ranking)
    Toyota Tundra (last ranking 8)
    GMC Acadia (no last ranking)

    If this list and the fact half of the models are from Japanese brands surprises you, it shouldn’t.

    Toyota and Honda have long built most of what they sell in the U.S. at plants in Kentucky, Ohio and Indiana (among other places). And most of the parts in those cars are made here in North America.

    It’s the reason I’m always baffled when people say, “I only buy American” and then they drive a model with a high percentage of parts from overseas. The fact is, for the most part, if you are buying it here in the US, most of the car was likely from here. Yes, there are some models like the Toyota Prius or Honda Fit, where that’s not the case, but, as the latest list shows, there are Toyota and Honda models primarily “Made in the USA”.

    I find it strange that 2 of the top 3 most american cars are Japanese brands. If these foreign companies can find a way to make it cheaper in the us – then why can’t our own American companies.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1036746

    Great info… did it take into account the labor that goes into the design and engineering of said models ??? And where that is done ??? If you think the profits are being dispersed/spent here.. well I have a bridge for ya

    And for the last question… drumroll please….legacy costs & Unions (check pricing, if you think they are cheaper)

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #1036747

    I can’t believe the Corvette is not in the top ten….. I thought they were hand built in the US. Must be imported parts?

    FDR

    woody_036
    Spooner, Wi
    Posts: 198
    #1036748

    I have a Toyota tundra. When I went to buy it the salesman kept saying that there were more American made parts in it than ford, Chevy, and dodge. And it was made in San Antonio Texas. I didn’t believe him about the parts thing, but after buying the truck and reading for myself, I found he was right!

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11929
    #1036762

    Quote:


    Great info… did it take into account the labor that goes into the design and engineering of said models ??? And where that is done ??? If you think the profits are being dispersed/spent here.. well I have a bridge for ya

    And for the last question… drumroll please….legacy costs & Unions (check pricing, if you think they are cheaper)


    Big G

    Would you rather have the profits stay here or the labor stay here. Given a choice I’d choose the labor.

    As for my last statement, My statement was not about Price but the fact that foreign companies choose to build it here rather than oversea’s – My assumption is that they do so because it saves them money to do so. If they can build it here and save money why do so many american Companies say they build product oversea’s to save $ – I am not talking about automobiles only.

    swlund
    Cuba City, WI
    Posts: 395
    #1036764

    Have you priced a Honda or a Toyota? They are not cheaper. If that is what you think you are wrong. They American public has the perception that are of better quality. All car companies have good and bad. Just look at the recent recalls on Honda & Toyotas. There are many good cars in all car companies and there are bad ones also.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11929
    #1036767

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    Have you priced a Honda or a Toyota? They are not cheaper. If that is what you think you are wrong. They American public has the perception that are of better quality. All car companies have good and bad. Just look at the recent recalls on Honda & Toyotas. There are many good cars in all car companies and there are bad ones also.


    As for my last statement, My statement was not about Price but the fact that foreign companies choose to build it here rather than oversea’s – My assumption is that they do so because it saves them money to do so. If they can build it here and save money why do so many american Companies say they build product oversea’s to save $ – I am not talking about automobiles only.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1036774

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Great info… did it take into account the labor that goes into the design and engineering of said models ??? And where that is done ??? If you think the profits are being dispersed/spent here.. well I have a bridge for ya

    And for the last question… drumroll please….legacy costs & Unions (check pricing, if you think they are cheaper)


    Big G

    Would you rather have the profits stay here or the labor stay here. Given a choice I’d choose the labor.

    As for my last statement, My statement was not about Price but the fact that foreign companies choose to build it here rather than oversea’s – My assumption is that they do so because it saves them money to do so. If they can build it here and save money why do so many american Companies say they build product oversea’s to save $ – I am not talking about automobiles only.


    Right, and I stand by my answer… Unions. That is what forced the labor away…starting with the parts… then eventually the assy factories also. This was all created by us NOT buying American (but the cheap… and I mean cheap… 100 % foreign autos in the 70’s.) It has come home to roost and I agree, why all the hype now ? Probably because the US auto industry hit bottom and then some, but it was all “created” by Unions and our inability to complete with the 100% foreign cars that hit our shores in the 70’s…. every model year since, more of the “American” cars were outsourced and the “foreign” cars were insourced here… again, with non Union labororers. The Unions were needed in the 1940’s in American factories, but have been made obsolete by OSHA and all kinds of gov’t agencies, but they still continue to have the grip on the man Again, what should be studied is “how many dollars” do the models add to the American economy, rather than how many widgets made & bolted together on our shores. Like to see that study.

    starvin pilgrim
    Posts: 335
    #1036781

    Just read this recently. Between 27 to 33% of the profits goback to Japan. Check the made in label on all your fishing gear and apparel. Vietman,China,Taiwan,Indonesia,etc. I go out of my way to buy American, Even if it means paying a little more. Back to subject, ever notice ,most of their plants are down south. Wages are at least 25% less, are there vehicle prices matching that?

    starvin pilgrim
    Posts: 335
    #1036784

    That old argument about Unions in the 40’s is very old and missinformed. They started to form in the 1880’s and are as important now as they were then. Every benefit you recieve is because of unions. Most people who complain about Unions are usually not smart enough or talented rneough to be accepted into them. Or better yet, just don’t understnd them.

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    #1036785

    Quote:


    That old argument about Unions in the 40’s is very old and missinformed. They started to form in the 1880’s and are as important now as they were then. Every benefit you recieve is because of unions. Most people who complain about Unions are usually not smart enough or talented rneough to be accepted into them. Or better yet, just don’t understnd them.


    Does anyone want to start a discussion if Starvin Pilgrim belongs to a union or not. My vote is for no

    bigpike
    Posts: 6259
    #1036787

    Excellent points G

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1036798

    Quote:


    That old argument about Unions in the 40’s is very old and missinformed. They started to form in the 1880’s and are as important now as they were then. Every benefit you recieve is because of unions. Most people who complain about Unions are usually not smart enough or talented rneough to be accepted into them. Or better yet, just don’t understnd them.


    Right……TEAMSTER 1991-1994, got promoted and out from under their thumb in ’94 Nice argument, calling me dumb

    packingheat
    Reads Landing Mn
    Posts: 696
    #1036799

    Quote:


    Great info… did it take into account the labor that goes into the design and engineering of said models ??? And where that is done ??? If you think the profits are being dispersed/spent here.. well I have a bridge for ya

    And for the last question… drumroll please….legacy costs & Unions (check pricing, if you think they are cheaper)



    So you work at Dealership that the auto manufacture is own by union members and a over seas company?

    francisco4
    Holmen, WI
    Posts: 3607
    #1036800

    Do you know how much of New York city is owned by people over seas?

    FDR

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1036803

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Great info… did it take into account the labor that goes into the design and engineering of said models ??? And where that is done ??? If you think the profits are being dispersed/spent here.. well I have a bridge for ya

    And for the last question… drumroll please….legacy costs & Unions (check pricing, if you think they are cheaper)




    So you work at Dealership that the auto manufacture is own by union members and a over seas company?


    The dealership is owned by an American (my boss), who lives here. But yes, Chrysler is owned by the Unions and FIAT, an Italian company. With the unions bleeding the company for decades, this is what has happened. I refer to the union as a Lamprey

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1036804

    I got to witness first hand the benefit of the Minnesota Painters union just last January. As he stood screaming at the job sup threatening picketing and blah, blah blah. BTW, this was a non-union building and non-union job contract. Yup, the unions are definitely needed now days…

    a-and-t
    By Rochester,MN
    Posts: 708
    #1036818

    It sure seems like a cop-out to blame 13 percent of the United States work force for all our troubles. What adult does not want a honest pay with some health benefits for a honest days work? If you trully want to compete with China on labor alone then union or non we are all taking a big pay cut. Why do we want to survive at their living standards. Buy American because you are one!

    starvin pilgrim
    Posts: 335
    #1036826

    Unions do not own companies. Companies have an agreement with the Unions to provide trained and skilled workers. The companies do not train them. When they need an x amount of workers, They call the particular Union to supply the work force needed. The companies set the price of a product,not the union. Yes, I’m a proud Union Man and a builder of High rises and Stadiums.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1036827

    Who blamed unions for all the trouble in the USA ? Are you ? I blamed them for the fact that more “foreign autos” are perceived more American than the true American founded companies. I am not hiding it and stand by my view. I also like pointing out so called facts and figures that don’t tell the whole story. Making parts and bolting them together here, does not make 1 auto more american than another, there is alot more that goes to making an auto than the final assembly.

    rvvrrat
    The Sand Prairie
    Posts: 1840
    #1036828

    This data was reported on the CBS Morning News show. One of the last comments by the reporter was that Yota and Honda are actually shipping cars made here back to Japan because the money exchange rate made the American built car that much cheaper.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1036835

    Can anyone please explain to how this was determined? What factors were used?

    There are too many factors that can adjust the result anyway you would want them. Just do a google search.

    Reports like this really tick me off. Your news sources are really no more than entertainment.

    bck
    Big Stone Lake Sd
    Posts: 257
    #1036843

    Quote:


    That old argument about Unions in the 40’s is very old and missinformed. They started to form in the 1880’s and are as important now as they were then. Every benefit you recieve is because of unions. Most people who complain about Unions are usually not smart enough or talented rneough to be accepted into them. Or better yet, just don’t understnd them.


    I tend to disagree, I was a union carpenter for 5 years after leaving the service. I left the union because I hated the fact that the lazy workers were protected.I went out on my own as a home remodeler for 7 years, now I work for a non union company as a carpenter, sometimes I wish I was union, but here is my view from being on both sides. Unions have too much power and they hurt our econonic future,on the other hand they help the working man , a good thing. My point is we need to meet in the middle so we can all survive.

    John Schultz
    Inactive
    Portage, WI
    Posts: 3309
    #1036844

    Quote:


    Most people who complain about Unions are usually not smart enough or talented rneough to be accepted into them. Or better yet, just don’t understnd them.


    That’s a pretty broad brush you paint with. I tend to keep my mouth shut on most things, but any time you want to compare GPA’s, take a head to head test, compare IQs, or any other measure of intelligence, bring it on. I don’t belong to a union, and it isn’t because I’m not talented enough or smart enough to be in one, and it certainly isn’t because I don’t understand them. I would never take a job where I was required to be in one.

    This may be the only time I have ever said this, but I think I may actually agree with Big G on this. Did I actually type that?

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1036850

    Quote:


    I tend to disagree, I was a union carpenter for 5 years after leaving the service. I left the union because I hated the fact that the lazy workers were protected.I went out on my own as a home remodeler for 7 years, now I work for a non union company as a carpenter, sometimes I wish I was union, but here is my view from being on both sides. Unions have too much power and they hurt our econonic future,on the other hand they help the working man , a good thing. My point is we need to meet in the middle so we can all survive.


    I’ll definitely disagree here. There’s no way that they will ever meet in the middle. Not a chance.

    Do think the repubs and dems will ever meet in the middle???

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1036851

    From what I seen in my 4 years in the Union, the Union is needed most by the worthless worker. The hard worker is held back by the Union and frowned upon for going above and beyond. The guy that puts his honest 40 in and is an asset to the company, doesn’t need the Union, but don’t tell him that… (for clarification, when I speak of Unions, I am not talking about Trade Unions, I don’t know enough about them to have an opinion… I am a talking about unions in a factory/assy setting, where the business trains the worker, not trade union)

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1036852

    Quote:


    This may be the only time I have ever said this, but I think I may actually agree with Big G on this. Did I actually type that?


    I know. Makes me sick. Me too, I guess.

    bck
    Big Stone Lake Sd
    Posts: 257
    #1036853

    Quote:


    From what I seen in my 4 years in the Union, the Union is needed most by the worthless worker. The hard worker is held back by the Union and frowned upon for going above and beyond. The guy that puts his honest 40 in and is an asset to the company, doesn’t need the Union, but don’t tell him that… (for clarification, when I speak of Unions, I am not talking about Trade Unions, I don’t know enough about them to have an opinion… I am a talking about unions in a factory/assy setting, where the business trains the worker, not trade union)


    I can confirm, as a former member it applies to the trades as well

    bck
    Big Stone Lake Sd
    Posts: 257
    #1036854

    Im not talking Republican vs. Democrat. Im talking working man vs. working man. The union is doing more bad than good. I have been on both sides, we in the trades need to meet in the middle. just my opinion.

    johnie1610
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1036856

    Totally Agree with G Unions protect the lazy man that probably couldn’t hold down a non union job. As for all of us dumb rednecks that dont understand unions or how they work or milk you of money. Hell over here in WI our great governor showed how unions milk the public for thousands and thousands of dollars each year and he had the balls to make the union man pay part of his own way. Im all about buying american but not paying more for less

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