Stand Your Ground Bill is back!!!

  • phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    #1275675

    If you value the right to protect yourself and loved ones, please take just a couple minutes, and email your legislators, and demand they vote YES for this!!

    This will be heard in committee this thursday, February 9th.

    http://www.gocra-mn.org/news/2012/02/stand-your-ground-is-back-contact-these-senators-today/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Mn-gocra+%28GOCRA+News+Feed%29&utm_content=FeedBurner

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    Last year, GOCRA worked with Minnesota legislators to introduce the Defense of Dwelling and Person Act, a sweeping set of legislation that would fundamentally rebalance Minnesota law to protect and support the rights of law-abiding citizens.

    Due to the showdown over the budget, our bill didn’t get the support and attention it needed. But you can’t keep a good bill down, and…

    Stand Your Ground is Back!
    We need your help.

    Please contact the members of the Senate Finance Committee, and urge them to vote YES on HF1467/SF1357. Their contact info is below.

    Sen. Claire A. Robling
    Committee Chair
    (651) 296-4123
    [email protected]

    Sean R. Nienow
    Vice Chair
    (651) 296-5419
    [email protected]

    Richard J. Cohen
    Ranking Minority Member
    (651) 296-5931
    Mail Form

    Terri E. Bonoff
    (651) 296-4314
    [email protected]

    Michelle L. Fischbach
    (651) 296-2084
    [email protected]

    Barb Goodwin
    (651) 296-4334
    Mail Form

    David W. Hann
    (651) 296-1749
    Mail Form

    Bill Ingebrigtsen
    (651) 297-8063
    [email protected]

    Keith Langseth
    (651) 296-3205
    Mail Form

    Doug Magnus
    (651) 296-5650
    [email protected]

    Scott J. Newman
    (651) 296-4131
    [email protected]

    Gen Olson
    (651) 296-1282
    [email protected]

    Mike Parry
    (651) 296-9457
    [email protected]

    LeRoy A. Stumpf
    (651) 296-8660
    Mail Form

    Linda Higgins
    (651) 296-9246
    [email protected]

    You can email many of them at once by pasting this list into your email client:
    [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected]

    Need that with commas instead? No problem!

    [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected] , [email protected]

    If you use those lists above, don’t forget these senators:

    Richard J. Cohen’s Mail Form
    Barb Goodwin’s Mail Form
    David W. Hann’s Mail Form
    Keith Langseth’s Mail Form
    LeRoy A. Stumpf’s Mail Form

    Here’s some background on the bill:

    HF1467/SF1357 SummaryHF1467/SF1357, the Defense of Dwelling and Person Act of 2011, brings “Stand Your Ground” protections to Minnesota, restores the presumption that a person using self defense is innocent until proven guilty, enhances Castle Doctrine, prevents the state from seizing guns during an emergency (remember Hurricane Katrina?), extends purchase permits to five years, improves carry reciprocity with other states and requires the government to do its job to serve law-abiding citizensThe full text of the bill can be found here: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=S1357.0.html&session=ls87Here’s some more detail:Adds Stand Your GroundSF1357 brings “Stand Your Ground” protections to Minnesota, removing the requirement that an intended victim of violent crime must retreat from a place where he has a right to be before using deadly force in self defense.Enhances Castle DoctrineThe bill also strengthens Minnesota’s “Castle Doctrine,” clarifying when and under what circumstances individuals can legally use deadly force to protect themselves in their homes and vehicles. In addition, it creates a presumption that, when faced with an apparent home invasion, carjacking or kidnapping attempt, a person may use deadly force in self defense.Prevents Gun Seizures During a State of EmergencyTaking a lesson from the problems in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, the bill also bans government agencies from seizing guns or ammo, revoking permits to purchase or carry, closing gun shops, or otherwise suspending our constitutional rights during a civil emergency — or at any other time. It also prohibits law enforcement officers from seizing a person’s gun, unless the person is arrested, or the gun is evidence of a crime.Extends Purchase Permits to Five YearsThe bill also extends the validity of handgun purchase permits from one to five years, adds an annual background check for people holding those five-year permits. It requires the Minnesota Department of Human Services and state courts to make their background check records available electronically to authorized agencies, including the National Instant Background Check system (NICS) — a process that was supposed to have been in place 16 years ago! This should reduce purchasing delays as well as ensuring that state and federal checks produce the same results.The bill also borrows a page from the Permit to Carry law, providing a more robust appeal process for denied purchase permits, and requiring that police chiefs and sheriffs whose purchase permit denials are overturned must pay the applicants’ legal costs.Adds Universal Carry Permit AcceptanceOf particular interest to carry permit holders, the final article of the bill updates our carry permit reciprocity standards, allowing people holding carry permits from any other state to carry in Minnesota (under Minnesota law, of course). This should result in a large increase in the number of states where Minnesota permit holders can carry, since many states allow other states’ permit holders to carry on a reciprocal basis.
    HF1467/SF1357 Summary

    HF1467/SF1357, the Defense of Dwelling and Person Act of 2011, brings “Stand Your Ground” protections to Minnesota, restores the presumption that a person using self defense is innocent until proven guilty, enhances Castle Doctrine, prevents the state from seizing guns during an emergency (remember Hurricane Katrina?), extends purchase permits to five years, improves carry reciprocity with other states and requires the government to do its job to serve law-abiding citizens

    The full text of the bill can be found here: https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill.php?bill=S1357.0.html&session=ls87

    Here’s some more detail:

    Adds Stand Your Ground

    SF1357 brings “Stand Your Ground” protections to Minnesota, removing the requirement that an intended victim of violent crime must retreat from a place where he has a right to be before using deadly force in self defense.

    Enhances Castle Doctrine

    The bill also strengthens Minnesota’s’s “Castle Doctrine,” clarifying when and under what circumstances individuals can legally use deadly force to protect themselves in their homes and vehicles. In addition, it creates a presumption that, when faced with an apparent home invasion, carjacking or kidnapping attempt, a person may use deadly force in self defense.

    Prevents Gun Seizures During a State of Emergency

    Taking a lesson from the problems in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, the bill also bans government agencies from seizing guns or ammo, revoking permits to purchase or carry, closing gun shops, or otherwise suspending our constitutional rights during a civil emergency — or at any other time. It also prohibits law enforcement officers from seizing a person’s gun, unless the person is arrested, or the gun is evidence of a crime.

    Extends Purchase Permits to Five Years

    The bill also extends the validity of handgun purchase permits from one to five years, adds an annual background check for people holding those five-year permits. It requires the Minnesota Department of Human Services and state courts to make their background check records available electronically to authorized agencies, including the National Instant Background Check system (NICS) — a process that was supposed to have been in place 16 years ago! This should reduce purchasing delays as well as ensuring that state and federal checks produce the same results.

    The bill also borrows a page from the Permit to Carry law, providing a more robust appeal process for denied purchase permits, and requiring that police chiefs and sheriffs whose purchase permit denials are overturned must pay the applicants’ legal costs.

    Adds Universal Carry Permit Acceptance

    Of particular interest to carry permit holders, the final article of the bill updates our carry permit reciprocity standards, allowing people holding carry permits from any other state to carry in Minnesota (under Minnesota law, of course). This should result in a large increase in the number of states where Minnesota permit holders can carry, since many states allow other states’ permit holders to carry on a reciprocal basis.


    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11929
    #1036400

    I sent a Email to the Whole list. Only received a response back from 2.

    Thank you for your email. I will bear your words in mind and appreciate you contacting me to share your position.

    Terri Bonoff
    State Senator District 43
    75 Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
    325 State Capitol Building
    St Paul, MN 55155-1606
    Phone: 651-296-4314
    Fax: 651-767-0924

    and

    John,
    Thank you for your e-mail regarding the Castle Doctrine bill (HF 1467). I am a proud co-author of this bill in the senate which expands the legal definition of self-defense. If this bill is passed and signed by Governor Dayton, Minnesotans will be able to use lethal force in dangerous situations. Furthermore, that person is under no obligation to “retreat” prior to using force.

    This bill also greatly expands the definition of a person’s dwelling. Under this bill, Minnesotans could legally defend themselves in whatever space they are living, either permanent or temporary. This includes a home, a trailer, a watercraft, a tent, or any other living space.

    Over 20 states have enacted similar legislation to better protect the rights of law-abiding citizens who find themselves in situations where they have to use lethal force to protect themselves. I am proud to have signed onto this important piece of legislation and will do my best to see that it passes in Finance committee on Thursday, February 9th.

    Thanks again for the email. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns regarding this bill.

    Senator Parry

    Senator Mike Parry SD 26
    State Capitol Building 309
    75 Rev Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd
    St. Paul, MN 55155
    (651) 296-9457

    phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    #1036642

    Tomorrow is the day, get those emails out folks.

    Thanks!

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1036646

    It will be interesting to see how this one comes out. Seems common sense is lost on many in St. Paul…

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1037058

    Hmmm…

    Only received two responses back and they were both from the co-sponsors.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1037061

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    Hmmm…

    Only received two responses back and they were both from the co-sponsors.


    Same here.

    phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    #1037148

    thanks to all that contacted their legislators!

    It passed out of the Finance committee on a vote of 10/5. If you’re interested, you can watch it at http://www.senate.leg.state.mn.us/media … 020912.flv . It was the 2nd bill heard today.

    palolo
    Posts: 284
    #1037277

    Quote:


    Hmmm…

    Only received two responses back and they were both from the co-sponsors.



    same here from Mike Parry and Bill Ingebritsen

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1041580

    Taking the CC class this week

    TazTyke
    Central Minnesota
    Posts: 473
    #1041592

    I sent my letters out tonight. This law makes sense and needs to pass. Do your part.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1044105

    Governor Dayton’s inability to make a decision on his own is again coming to light. As long as he is blowing in the wind on another important issue, make sure to point a fan in his direction.

    Go Here >>> http://mn.gov/governor/ and click on “Contact Us” link. Send him a message.

    Dayton consults with sponsor on “castle doctrine”
    Posted by: Jim Ragsdale under Gov. Mark Dayton, Minnesota legislature, Democrats, Republicans Updated: February 28, 2012 – 11:09 AM
    Gov. Mark Dayton met this morning with Rep. Tony Cornish, R-Good Thunder, to discuss Cornish’s “castle doctrine” gun-rights bill that Dayton will soon have to decide whether to sign or veto.
    “We have a good working relationship,” Dayton said after the meeting, which came at Cornish’s request. “He’s very thoughtful in his comments. I didn’t make any commitments one way or another.”
    The House is expected to give final approval to the bill this week and send it to Dayton. Supported by the National Rifle Association and opposed by law-enforcement, the bill expands the legal definitions of places and situations in which citizens can use deadly force when they feel seriously threatened.

    “I promised him earlier that I would take the full three days after it is passed and review it, and talk to people on both sides,” Dayton said, referring to the three-day period a governor has to decide whether to sign or veto a bill once it is passed and presented to him. “I intend to carry that out.”
    He said Cornish, whose law-enforcement resume includes work as a conservation officer and Lake Crystal police chief, made his pitch “in a very low-key way.” “He talked about his own experiences, knocking on doors, knocking down doors, going into places,” Dayton said. “He brings that credibility, that he’s been in the real world.”

    -J.

    phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    #1044304

    we all need to email and call his office. Dayton swore up an down that he supports our 2nd amendment rights, and our legislature which is voted in by the public, favored this bill very decisively, which means he needs to sign it, and support his legislators and the voting public of this state.

    if he vetoes this bill, he is not listening to his voters or their legislators, and is listening his “side”. and we can never forget his stance on this bill, for good or bad.

    Please everyone, contact the governors office!!!

    Quote:


    The Stand Your Ground bill passed the Minnesota House last year. It overwhelmingly passed the Senate last week. Now the bill is headed to Governor Dayton.

    TODAY!

    Call Governor Dayton’s office and ask him to sign HR1467, the Stand Your Ground bill.
    Metro: 651-201-3400
    Toll Free: 800-657-3717

    Write a real letter, on paper. These are incredibly effective in convincing a politician of how seriously we take an issue.
    Governor Mark Dayton
    130 State Capitol
    75 Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
    St. Paul, MN 55155
    Suggested language: “Please sign HF1467, the Stand Your Ground bill, today.”

    Send an email: Go to the governor’s web site at http://mn.gov/governor/contact-us/form/, and send the same message.

    Send a fax with the same message to 651-797-1850. Don’t have a fax machine? Send a fax online, for free, at faxzero.com.

    Forward this to a dozen friends and ask them to do the same.

    TOMORROW, AND EVERY DAY UNTIL HE SIGNS THE BILL!

    Do it again (see above)
    The Stand Your Ground bill protects and restores our rights in many ways.


    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1044310

    I’ll send him another email in the AM.

    What I don’t understand… The only time I could see a governor not signging a bill into law after it’s gotten a majority vote from both house and senate is if there was a large partisan advantage. Which isn’t the case here. Of course, that’s good ol’ common sense. We know it was banned from capitol buildings across this nation long ago.

    phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    #1044360

    thanks guys!!

    if only a portion of this website alone were to contact the governors office, we could outweigh the “anti’s” and their voice!

    these are the same anti’s that said blood would run in the street when the MCPPA was passed in 2003, and of course it did not. actually violent crime numbers have decreased since it’s inception.

    lhprop1
    Eagan
    Posts: 1899
    #1044479

    Quote:


    Email sent


    x2

    farmboy1
    Mantorville, MN
    Posts: 3668
    #1044481

    Quote:


    Email sent


    X2

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1044488

    Done

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1044780

    The bill has now passed both the house and senate by 2 to 1 votes. It’s time to see if Dayton is for or against the 2nd amendment.

    Palerider77
    Posts: 630
    #1044852

    So if it passed with an overwhelming majority, wouldn’t it be directly against the will of the people to veto this bill? I am not trying to start a riot, but seems like this is going in a good direction.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22456
    #1044853

    Sometimes we don’t know what is good for us… this better pass after my email to him and I thru in the netting he was against when he was campaigning

    ggoody
    Mpls MN
    Posts: 2603
    #1044891

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    So if it passed with an overwhelming majority, wouldn’t it be directly against the will of the people to veto this bill? I am not trying to start a riot, but seems like this is going in a good direction.


    Not unless it’s VETO proof in both the house and Senate!

    Palerider77
    Posts: 630
    #1044976

    I have been perpetually disappointed in government, and will not be terribly suprised if I am let down again. I sent my email and have encouraged others to do the same. Hopefully good sense will prevail.

    heavychevy
    prole, iowa (close to martinsdale)
    Posts: 190
    #1044987

    wife and i both sent one. From what I heard on the radio though, it doesnt stand much of a chance “the way its worded”, whatever that means. In my email i made sure to point out the problems that ranchers are dealing with on the mexican border. Suppose though with the president supplying the drug dealers with their weapons it wont carry much weight.

    phigs
    Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 1046
    #1045076

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    wife and i both sent one. From what I heard on the radio though, it doesnt stand much of a chance “the way its worded”, whatever that means. In my email i made sure to point out the problems that ranchers are dealing with on the mexican border. Suppose though with the president supplying the drug dealers with their weapons it wont carry much weight.


    this bill only pertains to MN.

    Thank you for your support though!!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1045090

    I get what you’re saying Phigerette, but it applies to our Iwegian brothers when they are in the Great State of Minnesota.

    That counts too!

    Pay no never mind to me…I have happy fingers today.

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