Special flourocarbon knot

  • riverfisher
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 122
    #1274719

    With the clearer water I’ve been using a 6lb flourocarbon leader attached to 8lb fireline with the uni to uni knot-no problems with the line to line whatsoever. But, I have been having major issues with tying the flourocarbon to my jigs. Breakoffs on hooksets to be specific. I’ve been using my standard fishermans knot lately but have not had these kind of issues in the past. The line is free of knicks and cuts.

    Is there a special knot to use for line to lure when using flourocarbon?

    eyesfishin
    Somerset, WI
    Posts: 370
    #1012796

    I use a palomar knot with fluro to jig and have had good luck with it. Don’t know if it’s the best knot for fluro but it’s worth a try.

    russ0101
    Brooklyn Park, mn
    Posts: 102
    #1012799

    Quote:


    I use a palomar knot with fluro to jig and have had good luck with it. Don’t know if it’s the best knot for fluro but it’s worth a try.


    X2

    riverfisher
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 122
    #1012804

    Thanks guys. I will switch to that knot and see how that goes. Sure is frustrating having a 2 hour window to fish before it’s dark after work, just to break off on each of the few and far between bites.

    Thanks!

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1012807

    Whatever knot you choose, make sure you lube it well with spit or water and cinch in neat and tight. And for sure test it before casting.

    riverfisher
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 122
    #1012816

    Quote:


    Whatever knot you choose, make sure you lube it well with spit or water and cinch in neat and tight. And for sure test it before casting.


    Actually did all three of those things each time, just makes it that much more frustrating!

    Thanks!

    jighead-two
    Cedar Falls, Iowa
    Posts: 642
    #1012827

    You might try catching smaller fish

    3t
    Posts: 15
    #1012828

    I also have problems with knot strength when using flourocarbon I use the palomar knot and lube it well. I tried the Cabela’s No-Vis 100% flourocarbon based on the advise of a Cabela’s salesperson but found it to be un-usable. I would like to try P-Line but am worried I am wasting my money.

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1012829

    Quote:


    With the clearer water I’ve been using a 6lb flourocarbon leader attached to 8lb fireline with the uni to uni knot-no problems with the line to line whatsoever. But, I have been having major issues with tying the flourocarbon to my jigs. Breakoffs on hooksets to be specific. I’ve been using my standard fishermans knot lately but have not had these kind of issues in the past. The line is free of knicks and cuts.

    Is there a special knot to use for line to lure when using flourocarbon?


    I had the exact same problem a couple of years ago and switched to Berkley 100% Fluorocarbon and no problems ever since the switch.

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #1012838

    Here is sn easy guide…

    Seaguar Invizx won the Tackletour Fluorocarbon shootout with ease in most categories, but believe you may not be tying your knot correctly…

    Check this out

    tying knots

    flatfish
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2105
    #1012840

    I’ve used Cabela’s No-vis fluorocarbon for years, (#8)and I have used what I think is the ‘improved’ clinch knot + spit, and I think it has worked very well for me. If I’ve called it right by name, this is where the line is passed through the hooks eye 2 times, then wrapped over itself 6 turns, then pass through both loops at the eye the back up through the loop created by the wraps, then lots of spit and slowly cinched down. Berkley probably has this on their site in knot wars?/??
    Like I said, I seems to work very well for me.

    3t
    Posts: 15
    #1012843

    I am tying my knots correctly. Perhaps I have a bad spool of line, or maybe I shouldn’t expect the knots to be as strong as mono or braid. I am using 6# test.

    hisser
    Chatfield, Mn
    Posts: 158
    #1012845

    Try the San Diego Jam Knot I switched a couple years back and have had great success with it. Easy to tie and very strong.

    3t
    Posts: 15
    #1012846

    Quote:


    Try the San Diego Jam Knot I switched a couple years back and have had great success with it. Easy to tie and very strong.


    Thanks, I will try the San Diego Jam Knot.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1012847

    Quote:


    I would like to try P-Line but am worried I am wasting my money.


    P-Line is not a straight Floro. It a floro poly carbon coated line.

    I love the stuff. From light ice line apps to heavy casting cranks. Never had knot problems.

    -J.

    buzzer
    Garnavillo Iowa
    Posts: 542
    #1012869

    X 2 pline luv it

    hairjig
    Cudahy, Wis.
    Posts: 937
    #1012871

    River Fisher, here are 3 simple names to remember, SEAGUAR, SUFIX (ELITE) mono, and lastly P-LINE, I currently use all three and tie a (CRAWFORD) figure eight knot, and join my 6# florocarbon to my 4# “GOLD” Stren or Sufix Elite gold line using a double uni-knot, which can also be tied mono to braid… Good quality florocarbon is important as I have tried inferior brands without good results, Don’t skimp use quality line… “GOOD HOOKSETS”

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1012895

    From what I have read so far online, a lot of people use the San Diego Jam. Personally I use the improved cinch or trilene know. But then again, I catch smaller fish.

    Joel Ballweg
    Sauk City, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3295
    #1012899

    I’ve used Seagur and P-line for years now and they both work great regardless of whether I’m tying a double cinch or palomar knot. (that’s only tying to the jig/bait or snap, not line to line)

    Bass Pro Shops XPS brand is also another very good fluoro line which I’ve used over the past few years.

    What pound test fluoro are you using?

    For open water walleye fishing, I never, ever go below 12# test and frequently go as heavy as 20# test.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1012904

    Quote:


    For open water walleye fishing, I never, ever go below 12# test and frequently go as heavy as 20# test.


    x2

    -J.

    Boogerbreath
    Bemidji, MN
    Posts: 432
    #1012910

    Trilene knot + spit. Never had an issue.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1012939

    I actually use my ear wax as it has better lubrication qualities.

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    #1012950

    Quote:


    I’ve used Cabela’s No-vis fluorocarbon for years, (#8)and I have used what I think is the ‘improved’ clinch knot + spit, and I think it has worked very well for me. If I’ve called it right by name, this is where the line is passed through the hooks eye 2 times, then wrapped over itself 6 turns, then pass through both loops at the eye the back up through the loop created by the wraps, then lots of spit and slowly cinched down. Berkley probably has this on their site in knot wars?/??
    Like I said, I seems to work very well for me.


    That would be the Trilene knot…one of my favs too…

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1012951

    Quote:


    a lot of people use the San Diego Jam


    I’ve used that with 14 pound mono before, but it’s such a hassle putting my shoes and socks back on. Not worth it to me.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1012953

    Quote:


    Quote:


    a lot of people use the San Diego Jam


    I’ve used that with 14 pound mono before, but it’s such a hassle putting my shoes and socks back on. Not worth it to me.


    Switch to the stuff that comes in a jar, it is more convenient.

    3t
    Posts: 15
    #1012975

    Quote:


    What pound test fluoro are you using?

    For open water walleye fishing, I never, ever go below 12# test and frequently go as heavy as 20# test.


    Joel, I have been using 6# test for open water jigging and tying lindy rig snells. Are you using 12# flouro for these applications?

    Joel Ballweg
    Sauk City, Wisconsin
    Posts: 3295
    #1012999

    Quote:


    Quote:


    What pound test fluoro are you using?

    For open water walleye fishing, I never, ever go below 12# test and frequently go as heavy as 20# test.


    Joel, I have been using 6# test for open water jigging and tying lindy rig snells. Are you using 12# flouro for these applications?


    Absolutely.
    Most of my snells are fluoro and regardless of whether I’m tying on a jig, hook, lindy….whatever, 12# test is the lightest lb test I ever use. My slow death rigs are tied with 10# Trilene XT but other than that, pretty much all of my leaders & snells are tied with fluoro.

    I found out the hard way, that in open water situations, heavier flourocarbon line just doesn’t seem to matter to the fish at all. (to a point I’m sure. my current cutoff is 20lb test only because I haven’t tested anything above that in walleye fishing situations)

    The heavier line means stronger knots, stronger line, less lost lures, better hook setting power, better shock strength and since the fish don’t care, I just don’t see a down side.
    If it works on Green Bay where the waters are about as clear as they get, it will work anywhere.

    riverfisher
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 122
    #1013040

    Lots of info! Looks like I will also have to try the San Diego jam knot after learning it from the neat video link Tom gave. Very helpful, Tom.

    I’ll have to look around for some of those brands of flouro in a little heavier test and give it a shot. Hopefully I can land a fish, and post a picture of it this week as proof that all the advice helped.

    Thanks!

    JasonP
    Twin Cities
    Posts: 1372
    #1013074

    Quote:


    I actually use my ear wax as it has better lubrication qualities.


    hmmm…good idea. gonna give that a shot tomorrow. we’re on a budget and that will save on q-tips as well.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1013108

    Quote:


    Quote:


    I actually use my ear wax as it has better lubrication qualities.


    hmmm…good idea. gonna give that a shot tomorrow. we’re on a budget and that will save on q-tips as well.


    You should consider my reputation for catching fish, or lack there of, before giving it a shot.

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