I recieved this email from Congressman Kline today

  • clarence_chapman
    Hastings, MN Lake Isabel activist
    Posts: 1345
    #1274573

    November 16, 2011

    Dear Mr. Chapman:

    Knowing of our shared commitment to protecting gun rights, I would like to provide you with an important legislative update.

    As a retired Marine and avid outdoorsman, I am an experienced firearms owner and user and believe individuals should have the right to keep and bear arms for the protection of one’s home, property, family, and person. I am especially proud of my “A” rating from the National Rifle Association and will do all I can to protect Second Amendment rights.

    That is why I cosponsored and voted for the National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act (H.R. 822), which passed the House of Representatives earlier today. This bill allows a person who has a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm in their home state to carry a concealed firearm in another state in accordance with the laws and requirements of that second state. Let me reassure you this legislation does not interfere with each individual state’s gun permitting process, nor would it require states to create a new permitting process.

    To watch a video of remarks I made on the floor of the House of Representatives expressing my support for this legislation you can visit http://tinyurl.com/KlineHR822. I will continue to support all efforts that secure a person’s right to own firearms and promote efforts that encourage gun owners to engage in gun safety and responsible firearm practices.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this letter. To receive additional updates on legislative activity and my efforts in Congress, please visit my website at kline.house.gov/issues. Please feel free to contact me regarding this or any issue of importance to you.

    Sincerely,

    JOHN KLINE
    Member of Congress

    TazTyke
    Central Minnesota
    Posts: 473
    #1009654

    Lets see if gets through the Senate. At least this is a start.

    drewsdad
    Crosby, MN
    Posts: 3138
    #1009657

    ITS GONNA BE THE WILD WEST ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!!
    ….. I just thought I would provide the knee jerk reaction now and save time.

    dd

    clarence_chapman
    Hastings, MN Lake Isabel activist
    Posts: 1345
    #1009707

    That would be great if it passes. From what I understand it basically makes it like your Drivers license.

    lhprop1
    Eagan
    Posts: 1899
    #1009739

    Nice. Maybe I won’t have to pay for my UT and FL permits.

    Now if they could only get the commie states like NY, CA, and IL to recognize the second amendment, we’ll be set.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 12053
    #1009803

    We need to make sure we remember these type of Congressman at election time. There are getting to be fewer and fewer who believe like Mr. Kline each election. Lets do what we can to support him and others like him. Lets hope this gets passed in the next stage.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1009805

    Update on this story

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/11/16/house-to-vote-on-concealed-firearm-permit-bill/?test=latestnews

    House Approves Concealed Firearm Permit Bill

    Published November 16, 2011

    Associated Press

    WASHINGTON – A state permit to carry a concealed firearm would be valid in almost every state in the country under legislation the House passed Wednesday.

    The first pro-gun bill the House has taken up this year and the first since Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., was severely injured in a gun attack in January, it had the National Rifle Association’s backing and passed by a comfortable margin. The vote was 272-154, with only seven Republicans voting against it and 43 Democrats supporting it.

    The Democratic-controlled Senate has no parallel bill. But two years ago, GOP Sens. John Thune of South Dakota and David Vitter of Louisiana nearly succeeded in attaching a similar measure to a larger bill.

    Under the House legislation, people with a concealed carry permit in one state could carry a concealed weapon in every other state that gives people the right to carry concealed weapons.

    While states have various standards for issuing such permits, currently only Illinois and the District of Columbia prohibit the concealed carrying of weapons.

    “The Second Amendment is a fundamental right to bear arms that should not be constrained by state boundary lines,” said GOP Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

    The bill’s chief co-sponsor, Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., said states should consider concealed carry permits no differently from driver’s licenses recognized by all states. He noted that many states already have reciprocity agreements with other states.

    The legislation would “make it easier for law-abiding permit holders to know that they are simply in compliance with the law when they carry a firearm as they travel,” he said.

    Democratic opponents said the bill would constitute a “race to the bottom,” with states that have strict requirements for issuing permits having to accept permits from states with far more lax standards.

    “It’s a situation where weaker state laws become the national law,” said Rep. Bobby Scott, D-Va. He noted that some states require training for permit holders, or deny permits to those under 21 or who sell drugs to minors, commit sex offenses or are involved in domestic violence.

    According to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, the measure would allow states with tough requirements, such as New York and California, “to allow in concealed carry gun-toting people from states, such as Florida, which repeatedly have given dangerous people licenses to carry.”

    Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., and Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., wrote President Barack Obama last week urging him to issue a veto threat against the bill. Passing the bill “would jeopardize public safety and would be an insult to states like New Jersey and New York that purposefully have strong gun ownership laws,” they wrote.

    The administration has not yet taken an official position on the bill.

    Democrats also chided Republicans for ignoring their dedication to states’ rights. “For the Republican House majority that supposedly believes in states’ rights, this bill is shocking,” said Rep. Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y.

    There hasn’t been much legislative action on firearms issues this year. A spending bill that the House is expected to vote on this week would bar the Justice Department from consolidating firearms sales records or maintaining information on people who have passed firearms background checks.

    The chief sponsors of the concealed weapon measure, Stearns and Rep. Heath Shuler, D-N.C., said their proposal would not create a federal licensing system but merely require states to honor one another’s carry permits.

    People who are unable to get a permit in their home state would not be able to carry a concealed weapon in their home state by getting a permit in another state. A state’s ban on carrying concealed weapons in places such as bars, sporting events or state parks would apply to nonresidents as well as residents.

    Thirty-five states have “shall issue” permit laws that usually require states to issue permits to those who meet legal requirements. Ten others have “may issue” or discretionary permit laws. Vermont, Arizona, Alaska and Wyoming do not require a permit to carry a concealed weapon.

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2582
    #1009846

    Quote:


    We need to make sure we remember these type of Congressman at election time. There are getting to be fewer and fewer who believe like Mr. Kline each election. Lets do what we can to support him and others like him. Lets hope this gets passed in the next stage.


    Isn’t Kline a Democrat?

    That question is bait … I know he is. I just love to see legislators that don’t vote along party lines (from either side of the isle).

    lhprop1
    Eagan
    Posts: 1899
    #1009850

    Quote:


    Isn’t Kline a Democrat?

    That question is bait … I know he is. I just love to see legislators that don’t vote along party lines (from either side of the isle).


    I think you’re confusing him with someone else. Kline is a Republican and has been for his entire political career.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1009869

    Quote:


    Isn’t Kline a Democrat?

    That question is bait … I know he is. I just love to see legislators that don’t vote along party lines (from either side of the isle).


    Kline is one of the more conservative republicans out there.

    Would love to hear Obama’s comments when told he must sign this into law. Will see how the Senate votes, but I suspect there will be more than enough votes to override any veto attempt.

    -J.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22524
    #1009951

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Isn’t Kline a Democrat?

    That question is bait … I know he is. I just love to see legislators that don’t vote along party lines (from either side of the isle).


    Kline is one of the more conservative republicans out there.

    Would love to hear Obama’s comments when told he must sign this into law. Will see how the Senate votes, but I suspect there will be more than enough votes to override any veto attempt.

    -J.


    What did he say ? I am sure it would make the news if it was anti…wouldn’t it ??

    clarence_chapman
    Hastings, MN Lake Isabel activist
    Posts: 1345
    #1010025

    Thanks Jon for putting up the update. And Big G follow the link in my original post.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22524
    #1010030

    I did, your link didn’t work…???

    Rep. Carolyn McCarthy, D-N.Y., and Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J., wrote President Barack Obama last week urging him to issue a veto threat against the bill. Passing the bill “would jeopardize public safety and would be an insult to states like New Jersey and New York that purposefully have strong gun ownership laws,” they wrote.

    The administration has not yet taken an official position on the bill



    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22524
    #1010047

    I think I see the issue… in my previous post, I wasn’t asking what Kline said, I am aware of the Bill and support it… I was asking what if anything Obama said about it ? It was eluded that he would probably say something negative… but from what I read, the Administration had no stance on it yet ?

    1hl&sinker
    On the St.Croix
    Posts: 2501
    #1010083

    Say how did the house even pass this bill and how did they find the time after debating and voting on important issues like reaffirming the national motto that had already been law and other bills like declaring a french fry and tomato paste a vegetable. very important work that needed to be done I guess.

    Oh I do support this bill though I do have concerns on some of the issues stated in the update.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22524
    #1010119

    Correction… 2 teaspoons of tomato paste, make a slice of PIZZA a vegetable…

    I laughed out loud while watching that last night

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1010129

    Quote:


    I was asking what if anything Obama said about it ? It was eluded that he would probably say something negative…


    Obama has a long voting record both in the Illinois Senate and US Senate against bills like this. (Or votes for bills that further restrict second ammendment rights.) That’s why I personally would find it quite amusing to be a fly on the wall to hear what he would say.

    Just like I would have loved to hear what he said after elected and pulled into his fisrt Nation Security meeting. Whoops…..

    -J.

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