Knots

  • Workboot
    Coon Rapids, MN
    Posts: 357
    October 10, 2011 at 1:19 am #1274078

    Knot Wars . Really? … Really. I was reading an article in my NAFC magazine and there is a series called Knot Wars. Staff members challenge line to hook knots and loser goes home. They assess each knot using mono, flourocarbon and braid. up this month is the Homer Circle Knot up against Rebeck Knot. And the winner will go up against last years champ The Berkley Braid knot. ( lines used for testing… 14-pound Berkley TransOptic, 15-pound trilene 100% Flourocarbon, 14 pound Trilene Fire Line). Dont know why I posted this. I thought all knots were the same? Any thoughts??? Being a novice fisher I didnt know knots were this serious enough to war over. Thanks Wil

    mark-bruzek
    Two Harbors, MN
    Posts: 3863
    October 10, 2011 at 1:55 am #1000294

    well, i guess they can only re-write so many topics so many times. Sounds like there are really “digging” for articles to fill the publication… See it all to often in mags.

    j.bird
    Posts: 23
    October 10, 2011 at 4:04 am #1000297

    yeah… me either… kinda funny, the clinch and the improved clinch are all i ever have needed. well, that and the the doubble loop snell on some jigs… but i rarely loose fish and or lures due to knot failure????

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    October 10, 2011 at 4:43 am #1000299

    Wil there are differences in knots and their breaking/slipping strength.

    A few years back I tied my tried and true knot to hold on James Holst’s SUPER FINELY tuned raps to his fish line. Little did I know that the knot I tied worked great for my braid, 10/0 hooks and 40 pound flatheads, but they slipped out with the tug of a 7 pound walleye when using firewire line (I think).

    I still get crap about that.

    Hands down best knot for your business? See below.

    eyekatcher
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 964
    October 10, 2011 at 12:04 pm #1000329

    One thing I noticed watching knot wars on TV is that no matter what knot you tie, the holding power is increased by going through the hardware hole twice.

    tom_gursky
    Michigan's Upper Peninsula(Iron Mountain)
    Posts: 4751
    October 10, 2011 at 5:45 pm #1000424

    If you are a serious angler or a professional angler/Guide you may want to pay attention to knot wars. Lots of good info there.

    It is an unbiased test of both line quality and knots…one also learns how many line companies falsely advertise their 10#test line that breaks at 18# on the show. That was really an 18# test line. Most all braided lines are underrated…try to break 8# Fireline with your bare hands

    I look at the diameter of the line and then the lb test… When you compare line qualities of same type/diameter lines you are then doing a fair test.

    BTW… knots are extremely important… clinch knots are a poor knot as far as %of strength retention…improved clinch is a bit better.

    For guiding clients I use a Palomar for just about everything…the Uniknot is also dependable…when the fish of a lifetime is lost and the end of the line is like a tiny Slinky your knot failed

    stuwest
    Elmwood, WI
    Posts: 2254
    October 10, 2011 at 7:25 pm #1000448

    Is it a slinky when BRAIDED breaks??

    Tom- I had the distinct impression that braided was considerably stronger than nominated. Have you tested any??

    Workboot
    Coon Rapids, MN
    Posts: 357
    October 10, 2011 at 10:37 pm #1000490

    Oh. Didnt know. Was kinda different. Heck thought some were nuts about knots…lol Wil

    Workboot
    Coon Rapids, MN
    Posts: 357
    October 10, 2011 at 10:38 pm #1000491

    Me too j.bird. Those are the ones i learned as a kid..And they still work ..

    Workboot
    Coon Rapids, MN
    Posts: 357
    October 10, 2011 at 10:40 pm #1000492

    BrianK . I dont know why folks say you have k(NO)t sense of humor.. Yu are a funny guy.. LOl.

    Workboot
    Coon Rapids, MN
    Posts: 357
    October 10, 2011 at 10:41 pm #1000494

    True Eyecatcher. They mentioned that that was very important. Thanks Wil

    Workboot
    Coon Rapids, MN
    Posts: 357
    October 10, 2011 at 10:49 pm #1000498

    Thanks Tom. And the winner was ….The Homer Circle Knot. Rebeck was best with braid. 21.3 lbs versus 18.0… homer was best with mono and flouro, breaking at 20.77 and 19.86 compared to Rebecks 16.2 and 16.45 Homer now will take on the Berkley Braid knot for the Championship.. Ill keep you posted. Wil

    rmartin
    United States
    Posts: 1434
    October 11, 2011 at 1:50 am #1000547

    You can review all of the knots tested here: Knot wars

    In addition and just as important is checking you line from the knot to several feet above for nicks and frays. Your line is only as strong as its weakest point and it is not always the knot.

    Workboot
    Coon Rapids, MN
    Posts: 357
    October 11, 2011 at 11:09 pm #1000714

    Thats the truth, not only in knots but also Ive found that in life. Wil

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