Star Tribune online article Asian carp are in pool 2 and the St Croix news conference with DNR scheduled for this afternoon. Also mentions perhaps closing the locks on the Ford dam to stop the northward migration. As it stands now they can all the way up the Mississippi and connecting waterways.
Mwal
Oh how I would love to ask a question or two at that conference!
Is “passageway” one word or two?
We started to see them in pool 18 last fall….so far have only seen 2 all summer! very unfortunate for sure… In a world of all kinds of technology I hope that someone comes up with a way to stop this invasive fish!! 
Report here:
http://www.startribune.com/local/127521753.html
Fear realized: Asian carp in Twin Cities waters.
Sensitive water tests of the Mississippi River below the Ford Dam in the Twin Cities and the St. Croix River between Prescott, Wis., and Taylors Falls have revealed the presence of Asian carp, the National Park Service and the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources will say at an afternoon news conference Thursday, according to sources briefed by the agencies.
In response, a coalition of environmental organizations will argue at the news conference at Minnesota Department of Natural Resources (DNR) headquarters in St. Paul that Lock and Dam 1 — also known as the Ford Dam — and/or the dam at Upper St. Anthony Falls in Minneapolis should be permanently closed to prevent carp from reaching the Mississippi above the Twin Cities.
The groups, including the National Wildlife Federation, Audubon Minnesota and the Izaak Walton League, have studied the amount and types of barge traffic using the locks and say the effect of a shutdown would be relatively minimal.
Most barges traveling through the locks carry sand and gravel, and coal to the University of Minnesota, the groups say, and those shipments can be made other ways.
Closing the locks is the only certain way to prevent Asian carp from eventually invading northern Minnesota waters, according to the environmental organizations.
A bonding bill passed by the Legislature in its special session and signed by Gov. Mark Dayton included $16 million to rebuild the Coon Rapids dam, an action supporters say will stop the upward migration of Asian carp in most, but not all, years, given the variable flooding that occurs on the Mississippi each spring.
The environmental DNA (eDNA) tests were conducted in late June by a private contractor and were designed to detect the presence of DNA material left by Asian carp through their mucous and excrement.
Eight bighead carp have been found in Minnesota since 1996. The bighead is one of four species of Asian carp that are invasive to American rivers. That includes the dreaded silver carp, which can leap from the water, knocking people out of their boats.
On hand for the announcement at DNR headquarters in St. Paul will be department Commissioner Tom Landwehr, Paul Labovitz, National Park Service and superintendent of the Mississippi National River & Recreation Area, and DNR fisheries biologist Tim Schlagenhaft.
Late last month, federal officials announced the beginning of intensive monitoring of waterways near Lake Michigan after genetic material from Asian carp showed up in a third consecutive round of testing.
The Lake Michigan monitoring involves using electric jolts to stun fish, sweeping the waterway with half-mile-long nets and conducting additional sampling in Lake Calumet and the Calumet River near Chicago.
Two Asian carp species — the bighead and the silver — are threatening to enter the Great Lakes after migrating northward from the South for decades.
Some scientists say that if the large, voracious carp establish a foothold in the Great Lakes and other Midwest waterways, they could unravel the food web by gobbling plankton needed by smaller fish that feed prized sport varieties such as walleye and trout.
Audubon Minnesota is concerned that the food sources of a wide variety of water birds also could be depleted by the carp’s presence.
Five states — Michigan, Minnesota, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — have filed a federal lawsuit demanding quicker action.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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-J.
Apparently there is no way to ever stop this.. I guess we’ll get used to wearing helmets when we fish.
Their spread could be stopped if the Corps of Engineers (in conjunction with the DNR of each state on the river) would just set up a high-pressure/high-temperature power washer in each lock and spray down the underside of each vessel that comes through. 
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Their spread could be stopped if the Corps of Engineers (in conjunction with the DNR of each state on the river) would just set up a high-pressure/high-temperature power washer in each lock and spray down the underside of each vessel that comes through.
wrong thread…. they are not mussells 
The article doesn’t say whether they are the bighead or silver carp. We know bighead are already in the Croix because one showed up in nettings this spring. If they found evidence of silver carp, you know the ones that require keeping a baseball bat alongside your rods, then that is news. Last year an angler on another website reported seeing one jump in pool 2 so maybe they are there.
Seems there is no stopping these fish.
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Their spread could be stopped if the Corps of Engineers (in conjunction with the DNR of each state on the river) would just set up a high-pressure/high-temperature power washer in each lock and spray down the underside of each vessel that comes through.
wrong thread…. they are not mussells
Hyperbole
The intentional usage of an obviously absurd statement/situation to illustrate the absurdity of a related statement/situation previously presented as purportedly serious or genuine.
i’ve been occasionally seeing them in the backwaters of P3 and P4 for about 5 years now.
Maybe if we also spray down the walls and the floor of the lock each time a vessel passes through 
Need to start eating them.
Maybe we could spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on training double brested cormorants to only eat asian carp
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Need to start eating them.
Mike’s right on. The real question we should probably start asking is what are some good recipes for silver carp.
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Need to start eating them.
Mike’s right on. The real question we should probably start asking is what are some good recipes for silver carp.
From the latest issue of Boat US:
http://www.boatus.com/magazine/2011/august/aliens.asp
Silverfin Cakes (Asian Carp)
by Chef Philippe Parola http://www.chefphilippe.com
See article “Eating The Aliens” in August/September 2011 BoatUS Magazine
4 Silverfin steaks
4 oz of melted unsalted butter
1 tbsp of Dijon mustard
1 tbsp of lemon juice
1 whole egg
1 oz of bread crumble
Seasoning and hot sauce to taste
Poach or steam Silverfin steaks until fully cooked. Break it up in pieces to remove bones. Place all the meat into a mixing bowl. Add butter, mustard, egg and lemon juice. Mix well. Add bread crumble, seasoned to taste. Make small cakes, rolled into egg wash and seasoned flour. Fry for 4-5 minutes until golden brown. Serve with beurre blanc or lemon butter sauce.
http://www.boatus.com/cooking/cookbook/blog_view.asp?BID=438
You try first – let us know what ya think! 
-J.
Anyone else ever seen in the spring usually april some time when the carp stack up below the lock at the Ford dam? I have pulled in there after dark where the carp are bouncing off the hull of the boat they are so thick. Pretty easy to see a good group of them swimming into the lock and moving up river at that point.
On the other hand what fish that we do want to swim up and down river would be stopped by closing the dam.
Guess its back to my original idea. Start eating. 
anyone see my thunder around? I think it was stolen.
Person of interest.
Filet
Soak in lye
Boil
Feed to Norwegians in Lutheran Church basement
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Soak in lye
Boil
Feed to Norwegians in Lutheran Church basement
As if they don’t already stink enough . . .
. . . The carp, I mean.
Don’t forget the Swedish meatballs, jello and really weak kool-aid.
how big do they get?
Think the silver they had on display at the sports show was about 60#.
I’ll tussle with a 60# fish anyday…even if it is a carp. Now gettin hit in the head with one while cruisin down the river….not so fun. 
One upside is that the tuna boats…the cigar boats at least, will have to go to lake Minnetonka where they belong. Getting smacked with a 60#er while going 70mph down the channel will surely result in some sort of chaos.
This is a horrible thing guys
I agree it is not a good thing; but I don’t think it even cracks my top 20 list. And right now with all sorts of crappy things happening in all sorts of areas it isn’t hard to make a list. But instead of making a crappy list I will say this: When I was a kid rivers caught on fire, bald eagles were endangered, and sea lampreys ran amuck in the Great Lakes. All of those things are much better now than they were 30 to 40 years ago.
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Their spread could be stopped if the Corps of Engineers (in conjunction with the DNR of each state on the river) would just set up a high-pressure/high-temperature power washer in each lock and spray down the underside of each vessel that comes through.
wrong thread…. they are not mussells
Hyperbole
The intentional usage of an obviously absurd statement/situation to illustrate the absurdity of a related statement/situation previously presented as purportedly serious or genuine.
I was wondering how firmly planted your tongue was in your cheek…. 
I better sell the boat now while i might be able to get some money out of it. Wait a couple years, let the carp get more established and the market will be flooded with used boats. Sorry, the carp are here and have been for some time. The DNR will act after it is too late. 
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The intentional usage of an obviously absurd statement/situation to illustrate the absurdity of a related statement/situation previously presented as purportedly serious or genuine.
I was wondering how firmly planted your tongue was in your cheek….
Yup, hyperbole is most delicious baked over the coals of cynicism and served up with a generous helping of sarcasm.
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