Had christmas with in-laws last night, my wifes uncle live on the north end of Red Cedar..
He said the same, 7-10″, but there has been a large flock of geesekeeping the water open nearStout island so be very careful around there..
He said he wasn’t sure about the bite on red, but other local lakes have been real good so far.
I will be going up after new yrs. to fish for a few days.I will post a report after.