Mille Lacs is now federal waters

  • Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13292
    #858546

    Just called over to the District 8 office to get some answers. That is our local CG office. They reconfirmed what Trashman posted. Yes Mille Lacs is a federal water way. Just recently is when they received clarification on this.

    I asked about plans for enforcement and they did not have any answers yet. It sounds like what they are working on now is resetting some district boundaries so that Mille Lacs fall entirely into district 9. This is the CG out of Duluth. Guess they have more man power up there as apposed to the 6 person staff in the cities.

    The Federal Register is where you may find announcements pertaining to these issues. I have not ever looked at that but just from the name it sounds like some fun reading.

    chomps
    Sioux City IA
    Posts: 3974
    #858623

    do these regulations go into effect for our opener or the indians opener? and Do Roman Candles count as your flare?

    Red Door 1
    North Shore Mille Lacs in Wealthwood
    Posts: 713
    #859631

    Sam Cook, Duluth News Tribune
    The ongoing saga of Coast Guard licensing requirements for inland Minnesota fishing guides continues, but some issues are becoming clearer.

    Minnesota Department of Natural Resources officials met with a Coast Guard working group about 10 days ago, and the DNR hopes to offer concrete guidelines to fishing guides and other Minnesota boaters who carry passengers for hire within about a week, Bob Meier, DNR assistant commissioner, said this week.

    “We’ll be issuing a fact sheet so these guys can have an understanding of what they need and how to get it,” Meier said.

    Beginning last summer, the Coast Guard indicated it would begin enforcing the requirement that any boater carrying up to six passengers for hire would need a “six-pack” license, formally known as an Operator of Uninspected Passenger Vessels license. The licenses have long been required of charter fishing captains on Lake Superior and the St. Louis River, but until last summer, the Coast Guard had not enforced the requirement on most inland waters considered federally navigable.

    That license typically requires up to a week of classroom instruction. That and other requirements of the license can put its cost at about $1,200.

    But Meier said the Coast Guard is considering allowing fishing guides and others carrying passengers for hire on inland waters to operate with a restricted license of some sort. Lt. Dave French, external affairs officer with the Coast Guard in Cleveland, confirmed that on Thursday.

    “We’re looking at developing a restricted license for inland waters,” French said. “At this point, we don’t have that yet.”

    And don’t look for it soon, Meier said. He anticipates the Coast Guard’s final decision on this matter will come in “months rather than weeks.”

    The DNR has no jurisdiction in this issue.

    “We’re caught in the middle,” Meier said. “We’re just trying to help our guides.”

    It’s unlikely any change in licensing requirement would take effect before 2011. Meanwhile, French said, the Coast Guard will not enforce the “six-pack” license requirement for inland guides.

    “Our general approach for this year is education and outreach rather than penalties,” French said. “We’re not looking to impact this season. We’re looking at helping them [guides] gain compliance once we’ve decided what form of credential we’ll be using.”

    In the meantime, Meier said, guides should start the process of getting a TWIC (Transportation Worker Identification Credential) card, which is a port security clearance. The cards are available from the U.S. Coast Guard station in Duluth and cost about $100.

    Obtaining the card requires two trips, one to apply for the card and another to pick it up a couple of weeks later.

    Second, a guide should pay the initial registration fee for a Coast Guard OUPV license, Meier said, a cost of about $145.

    “Our understanding is that once you’re in the process of getting your TWIC card and you’ve paid your registration fee for a license, they [the Coast Guard] will consider you in compliance,” Meier said.

    “That’s what I’m going to do,” said Grand Rapids fishing guide Tom Neustrom, who has followed the issue closely and testified at the Minnesota Legislature. “I’m going to get my TWIC card.”

    Eventually, guides would be required to take a physical exam and a drug test, even for a restricted license, Meier said.

    Story Courtesy of http://www.duluthnewstribune.com

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22380
    #859830

    I did not vote for the man(Obama)…but, that being said, I don’t recall him saying passing healthcare reform and making inland waters such as Mille Lacs federal waters, were his 2 #1 priorities ???? Did Beck or Limbaugh sign on in here ??? Poke…poke

    big G

    PY2x2
    Posts: 1
    #860310

    What about border waters? Lake of the woods, ect.Would the FEDS be in charge of the fishing business/ tribal netting on Millacs,Red lake, and will the federal government be able to join the state to help with the fight with the tribal gill netting? As far as needing to be licensed/certified. The consumer(client) will be charged a little bit more for a safe guided outing.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #860316

    Quote:


    and will the federal government be able to join the state to help with the fight with the tribal gill netting?


    The State of Minnesota is not opposed to any tribal netting. There is no effort to ban it at the state level.

    -J.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13292
    #860373

    If the Indians are selling the fish I would think they will need to have a Captain on board.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22380
    #860520

    Soverign Nation…. plus they aren’t selling them… “they are for their elders”….

    big G

    deertracker
    Posts: 9157
    #870248

    So just to recap a long thread that went many different ways. Do we need to carry any other equipment in our boats now. ie. flares? And also, would a Glock 40 with tracer rounds qaulify?
    DT

    roscoe
    So St Paul
    Posts: 256
    #870763

    that works for me James

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