Stocking Walleyes in Mille Lacs?

  • Fife
    Ramsey, MN
    Posts: 4044
    #1289645

    Would Mille Lacs benefit from a stocking program?

    I know it has great natural reproduction numbers, but stocking may help produce consistent successful year classes. If the netting during the spawn isn’t going to stop, would it be possible to strip eggs from those fish to later be stocked back into Mille Lacs?

    #1136979

    Although I think that’s a great idea in theory, I have a hard time seeing MN DNR stripping those fish netted by Tribal members.

    Either way, its quite obvious the MN DNR has severely mismanaged Mille Lacs over the past few years, and proactive measures need to be taken soon to avoid another Red Lake situation.

    kooty
    Keymaster
    1 hour 15 mins to the Pond
    Posts: 18101
    #1136988

    This idea has been around for a long time and I’ve never heard a sound biological argument against it. I would think the DNR would be at every landing stripping eggs to utilize in the stocking program. However, to my knowledge, it’s never happened. I’m sure the Great Lakes commission would support it…..

    Sadly, I think the lake needs a complete crash. I’m sure the Great Lakes bands will net the lake until there isn’t another walleye left. At that point, there should not be a single walleye stocked in the lake until a netting ban is put in place. Sadly I have a feeling the DNR will start a stocking program like they did on Red Lake so the bands can once again start raping the resource.

    Who knows, maybe we’ll get a perch fishery like no other in Mn out of this.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13294
    #1136992

    Forget walleyes. Stock crappies. Would love to see another Red Lake happen.

    stuart
    Mn.
    Posts: 3682
    #1136993

    The tribes plan is to crash the walleye population and then buy out the resorts as they go belly up.

    jerry b
    western WI
    Posts: 1506
    #1136996

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    The tribes plan is to crash the walleye population and then buy out the resorts as they go belly up.



    Exactly what I was thinking. They have a pretty fair foothold now. A crash would make some pretty cheap property values- – -jerr

    Castaway
    Otsego,MN
    Posts: 1573
    #1137000

    The natives get mostly males in their nets so stripping eggs wont work. They would have to use a larger mesh size nets to get females for eggs.

    Angler II
    Posts: 530
    #1137007

    Quote:


    The natives get mostly males in their nets so stripping eggs wont work. They would have to use a larger mesh size nets to get females for eggs.


    I have seen countless femals pulled from their nets on youtube videos. All those eggs went to waste….

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1137009

    The other problem with that idea is most of this fish are dead when they hit shore. The fish need to be alive to strip.

    -J.

    super_do
    St Michael, MN
    Posts: 1089
    #1137010

    Aren’t most (not all) of the fish dead when they come out of the nets. Wouldn’t that have something to do with not stripping them?

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1137026

    How about making a deal with the Bureau of Indian Affairs
    that they provide a rearing/stocking program right there at the lake, and could only use native walleyes collected from the lake itself.

    mplspug
    Palmetto, Florida
    Posts: 25026
    #1137028

    Oh I am sure the tribe would be all for stripping the eggs to restock their lake so you guys can catch their fish! Gimme a break.

    <—-please note

    kroger3
    blaine mn
    Posts: 1116
    #1137030

    If there is going to be a stocking program we might as well let them net the growing ponds instead of the lake itself… Would cut down on the states cost.

    Castaway
    Otsego,MN
    Posts: 1573
    #1137043

    Quote:


    Quote:


    The natives get mostly males in their nets so stripping eggs wont work. They would have to use a larger mesh size nets to get females for eggs.


    I have seen countless femals pulled from their nets on youtube videos. All those eggs went to waste….


    I have seen the fish up close in person and those arent the fish the dnr strips!!! Ask the dnr like I did and they will tell you the same thing.

    Brian Hoffies
    Land of 10,000 taxes, potholes & the politically correct.
    Posts: 6843
    #1137049

    Quote:


    If there is going to be a stocking program we might as well let them net the growing ponds instead of the lake itself… Would cut down on the states cost.


    It’s not about the fish.

    steve-fellegy
    Resides on the North Shores of Mille Lacs--guiding on Farm Island these days
    Posts: 1294
    #1137068

    Quote:


    The other problem with that idea is most of this fish are dead when they hit shore. The fish need to be alive to strip.

    -J.


    Exactly. Gill-netted fish are not good candidates for stripping.

    That said, as the band nets are stripped/fish squeezed to get them out of the net mesh, at the landings, millions of walleyes eggs are laying on the pavement being walked on and driven over…

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1137073

    Quote:


    Oh I am sure the tribe would be all for stripping the eggs to restock their lake so you guys can catch their fish! Gimme a break.

    <—-please note


    Just a simple sugestion Pug, no need to get your undies in a bunch over it

    <— please note

    Fife
    Ramsey, MN
    Posts: 4044
    #1137098

    I can see where it might not work with the nets, but…

    Would stocking benefit Mille Lacs?

    Eggs are collected from Lake Winnibigosh walleyes and used to stock Winnie and I believe other lakes. There always seems to be a consistent mix of year classes in the lake so it obviously is working well. There is netting on Winnie as well, but I believe it is on a much smaller scale.

    steve-fellegy
    Resides on the North Shores of Mille Lacs--guiding on Farm Island these days
    Posts: 1294
    #1137100

    They are smart enough at Leech and Winnie and even at Red, to not net during the spawn.

    d-train
    Posts: 125
    #1137130

    Isn’t ML a good naturally reproducing lake because it has the right environment for the eggs to hatch and grow? I fail to see how removing them from the lake before the females drop them improves much of anything. Then again what do I know?

    Fife
    Ramsey, MN
    Posts: 4044
    #1137175

    Quote:


    Isn’t ML a good naturally reproducing lake because it has the right environment for the eggs to hatch and grow? I fail to see how removing them from the lake before the females drop them improves much of anything. Then again what do I know?


    I have always heard the same thing, but due to mother nature the hatch rate is better some years than others. Stocking could make saure there is a good year class every year.

    gonecribbin
    reads landing MN
    Posts: 517
    #1138537

    Heres a quote from the DNR in a May article—-

    If reproduction stays strong, “I don’t see any huge concern,” Bruesewitz said. But if the overall number of mid-size fish keeps dropping, the DNR might have to make some changes. Just stocking fish probably wouldn’t help, he said.

    whole article

    http://www.postbulletin.com/sports/outdoors/a-mystery-on-mille-lacs-big-fish-little-fish-abound/article_4e262819-e0b0-51a8-bd40-77e17f8e3d51.html

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