Leech Lake’s unique problem? Too many walleyes.

  • jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1285174

    Interesting story from today’s Strib.

    http://www.startribune.com/sports/outdoors/222271041.html

    Field report: Leech Lake’s unique problem? Too many walleyes
    Updated: September 4, 2013 – 9:56 AM

    Leech Lake’s walleye population is now so high that state resource managers likely will relax fishing regulations next year, making it easier for anglers to keep more fish.

    Officials want anglers to take more walleyes from the 175-square-mile lake. Spurred by the current 18- to 26-inch protected slot, the lake’s walleye biomass is at a near-record high — and is having negative impacts on the fishery.

    “Currently we’re seeing thinner walleyes,” said Matt Ward, Department of Natural Resources large lake specialist. “Walleye condition has declined over the past four or five years.”

    The number of spawner walleyes also is at a 26-year high. All of those fish are having an impact.

    “We have seen a decline in yellow perch for five consecutive years,” Ward said, noting cormorants — whose population on the lake has been reduced in recent years by conservation officials because of concerns the birds were overfeeding on fish — are not driving that trend. “It’s a strange thing to say, but we have too many walleyes and too much walleye biomass in the lake.”

    So the agency likely will propose relaxing the protected slot to 20 to 26 inches. It is taking public comment.

    One of the reasons for the high walleye population is anglers haven’t returned in the numbers that existed before the walleye population dwindled in the early 2000s.

    “We picked a slot limit anticipating harvest and angling pressure that we had seen in the early 2000s and 1990s would continue,” Ward said. “We haven’t seen that; we haven’t seen the anglers return.”

    Larry Anderson, a longtime guide who lives on the lake and is a member of the advisory committee, said the slot relaxation would be an improvement, but he and others are hoping the agency could simply allow one walleye over 20 inches — the statewide regulation.

    “It makes more sense,” he said. “There’s a lot of confusion, I think, whether here or at Rainy Lake or Winnie, over the protected slots.”

    Fishing on Leech was great in June and July, he said, but many of the walleyes were in that protected slot and had to be released. Fishing pressure won’t increase until anglers can routinely keep some fish to eat, he said.

    The DNR is holding a local public open house meeting from 6 to 8:30 p.m. on Oct. 9 in Walker, and Sept. 25 at DNR headquarters in St. Paul. Comments also can be submitted until Oct. 18 by e-mail to [email protected], or by telephone at (218) 547-1683.

    Doug Smith • [email protected]

    crossin_eyes
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 1379
    #1192927

    Maybe they should take some to Mille Lacs.

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1192931

    Sounds like a good problem to have.

    wes_bergemann
    Crystal, MN
    Posts: 458
    #1192932

    too many walleyes yet there is a need to stock it with 22 million fry per year?

    mike-west
    Amery, WI
    Posts: 1422
    #1192941

    Quote:


    too many walleyes yet there is a need to stock it with 22 million fry per year?


    All them bass need something to eat

    mwal
    Rosemount,MN
    Posts: 1050
    #1192946

    They protect to big of a slot. They are creating another lake of monster fish. They should read up on Lac Suel. 18 to 21 protected slot keep above and below very healthy fishery with all sizes of walleye. Not just trophy.

    Mwal

    joe-winter
    St. Peter, MN
    Posts: 1281
    #1192953

    Do you really think the only reason Lac Seul is so good is because it has a 18-21 inch slot?? Not even close to an apples to apples comparison.

    I think there should be a state wide slot 18-22″ or so and allow 1 over (state law already) but only have a 4 fish limit. I think most lakes would benefit and not have so many lakes with different regs.

    sinister-fishing
    Omaha, Ne for now
    Posts: 293
    #1192955

    People pay big money to go to fly in resorts in Canada for trophy fish. This sounds like a lot of people complaining to me. I live in Nebraska where the fishing is crap and a dnr that doesn’t care about anything. Leech and mil lac are both amazing fisheries! I could only dream to have lakes like that in Nebraska!

    hop307
    Northern Todd County
    Posts: 609
    #1192972

    Quote:


    Do you really think the only reason Lac Seul is so good is because it has a 18-21 inch slot?? Not even close to an apples to apples comparison.

    I think there should be a state wide slot 18-22″ or so and allow 1 over (state law already) but only have a 4 fish limit. I think most lakes would benefit and not have so many lakes with different regs.


    Wow that would never happen because it make WAY WAY to much sense. But I would love to see that regulation state wide.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #1192974

    Have any of you considered the possibility that these regs are actually screwing up the lakes rather than helping them out? Seems to me things worked just fine with a 6 fish linit any size state wide reg. Just a thought!

    -J.

    mwal
    Rosemount,MN
    Posts: 1050
    #1192981

    I read up on Lac Suel it was the 1st successful slot based on biology. Lac Suel was netted to walleye extinction just like Red Lake. So the MNR bought out commercial netter’s and tried to convince Native netters to stop as well. They then studied which walleyes actually had the most fertile eggs with the highest hatching and survival rate. That is how they determined it was that size range of walleye that were the most fertile and critical to the fishery. Yes giant walleyes may lay more eggs but they are old. Do more 20 year old women get pregnant or do more 65 year olds? Get the drift. They protected the fertile females and it is now the poster child for slot limits and what they can do. The MNR even has the Natives running there own camps catering to fisherman instead of netting. Do I like to catch big walleye yes I do. Is managing the fish population to create a lake of giants to satisfy the few that believe only keeping the small ones creates a healthy fishery. There is only so much feed in a lake and it sounds like it is getting eaten up. The way to reduce the biomass of walleye would to open the limit up in a similar manner to the way SD doe on Lake Oahe with their volatile smelt forage base. But I fear we shall study it for 10 years until a crash happens. IMHO

    MWAL

    mwal
    Rosemount,MN
    Posts: 1050
    #1192982

    Jon,

    I agree the 6 fish of any size seemed to be working. You caught fish of all sizes. Of course you would get year classes that had better hatches etc. That also spread out the forage predation to their different year classes and sizes. When the DNR had a forum and slots and limit reductions were just starting to be talked about the biologist in charge publicly stated that none of the regs are based on sound biology but more to make people feel better. People felt better if they could say they got here limit so lower limit to 4 as so few actually got 6 but more got 4. People also think its better to protect all the larger fish etc. He also forewarned of the Mille lacs situation etc. The State shutdown the forums on their site and Mr S basically retired as fisheries biologist. These are what I remember about how we get in these situations.

    Mwal

    wannaplay
    Posts: 149
    #1192984

    Hey Maw….where is my fishing pole?

    mar-80
    Chippewa Falls, WI
    Posts: 250
    #1192994

    I’m heading that way in two weeks for the first time. Looks like a good problem to have.

    Phil Bauerly
    Walker, MN - Leech Lake
    Posts: 866
    #1193828

    One interesting take away for me is the simple idea that angling pressure is down and walleye populations are sky high.

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