Frostbite Co Rods

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<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
As much as I don’t like them, their products will last and here’s why. The youtube fishing movement that these guys created has the future of fishing directly tied to it.

If the future of my favorite sport is tied to this, we’re totally screwed.

I don’t doubt monetized social based media junk will continue to impact our sport. Kinda sucks. I personally feel the vast majority of the youtube-esque media will only be found to hurt on a whole. People who don’t partake will always point and look.

The tradition must be passed by family and friends. Fishing and hunting absolutely must be a LEGACY issue, otherwise the masses will dictate by Pigouvian means.

I agree with you and totally understand your thoughts here. However there aren’t enough of us that are teaching kids this “right way” to hunt and fish anymore. The Googans are not the only representatives of the youtube fishing world. They may be the largest but there are many out there teaching the right way to fish and hunt. What I was saying is youtube (whether Googan Squad or other channels) is getting tens of thousands or more, of kids into fishing, when every other avenue is struggling to get them into the sport. That’s why it is tied to the future of the sport.

Subscribed, I’ll check them out!

mazak500 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>iTinker wrote:</div>
I just won’t watch the googans period. There are too many good fishermen out there like Aaron, JM, TR, the Lindners, Angling Buzz, IDO, etc. on youtube to waste my time. When I’m out for a laugh, or just want to reminisce over the Brainerd Lakes area, I will pop on some Fishnmore with Murray, and Nick.

I also like Jay Siemens and Tom Boley

While everyone is expressing their hate for Peric, I will also admit he is not a legit angler. Annoying as hell!

I would recommend a TUCR Commander though for chasing those green backs

x2 for Tom Boley videos

Frostbite is going with an overseas factory-made replica of their rods from last year.

Della Bay Custom Rods is back to making their own product based out of Elk River, MN. They were just at the Hardwater expo in Blaine and will be at the Arrowhead show in Duluth next month.

I think I figured out why folks don’t care for Peric. He reminds me of the annoying kid on Doogie Hauser MD. His name was Vinnie on the show. A newer version of Eddie Haskell from a generation earlier.

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That’s a funny as heck reference Dennis.

Has anyone bought one off their website? How long did it take for you to get your hands on it? Thinking about ordering a couple for christmas presents.

I ordered 3 rods on 11/27 and 2 of them hit the mail Saturday and that last one is scheduled to arrive today.

MNpup wrote:

Frostbite is going with an overseas factory-made replica of their rods from last year.
Della Bay Custom Rods is back to making their own product based out of Elk River, MN. They were just at the Hardwater expo in Blaine and will be at the Arrowhead show in Duluth next month.

I heard the Della Bay Custom didn’t want anything to do it Frostbite and couldn’t wait to get away from them. Too bad for Aaron. I hope Frostbite won’t try to screw him over like they tried to do with Della Bay. I would like to support Aaron but I will not support Frostbite.

Does dbc make a comparable to the 38″ true grit?

Rodwork wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>MNpup wrote:</div>
Frostbite is going with an overseas factory-made replica of their rods from last year.
Della Bay Custom Rods is back to making their own product based out of Elk River, MN. They were just at the Hardwater expo in Blaine and will be at the Arrowhead show in Duluth next month.

I heard the Della Bay Custom didn’t want anything to do it Frostbite and couldn’t wait to get away from them. Too bad for Aaron. I hope Frostbite won’t try to screw him over like they tried to do with Della Bay. I would like to support Aaron but I will not support Frostbite.

Saw that coming. I haven’t heard too many people that have worked with Peric that stick around long….Look at the guys he used to have making his videos. They are all out making their own now and are of much higher quality than Peric’s. I don’t know the Della Bay guys but I’m sure they are happier.

PmB wrote:

Does dbc make a comparable to the 38″ true grit?

They have a 36″ Medium called the “Lamp Lighter” and can build it up to 38″ under their “Custom Build” section of their website. Killer walleye rod.

Went to Della Bay’s website and I like the look of their rods especially the Parenteau Pup rod. A little longer would be nice but it sounds like they could make that in 32-34”. Any feedback out there?

guys, perric and co are not after your money. you are hardly the demographic they are going for.

hnd wrote:

guys, perric and co are not after your money. you are hardly the demographic they are going for.

What is there demographic? 24 year old? If that is the case, then I’m apart of it. Love Aaron Wiebe, but can’t stand Peric.

hnd wrote:

guys, perric and co are not after your money. you are hardly the demographic they are going for.

Everyone who fishes is now in their demo. Anyone who has a buck to spend on fishing gear is now in their demo. Once they went into the equipment business their demo changed. Their YouTube channel was geared towards younger viewers, but now that they need to physically sell something rather then be click bait the demo changes.

I personally am not a fan of them, but good for them for being smart enough to parlay their YouTube channel into something that can outlast, if done right, their shelf life on Youtube. Eventually the new shine will wear off and it’ll come down to quality and customer service. I see their site is down right now for restocking. Not the best thing to be doing at the start of ice season. You’d think they would have planned better then to be shutting down their retail site for any amount of time 2 weeks before Christmas.

Nothing has to change. They cans still greatly focus on their target market. Just because anyone can buy a product doesn’t mean a company is going to actively seek your purchase. There are a few exceptions to the rule obviously ( a 24 yr old on a web forum for example)

hnd wrote:

guys, perric and co are not after your money. you are hardly the demographic they are going for.

Interesting…..An ice rod company not after fisherman’s money……Great business strategy….

In all seriousness you can’t run a business off a model targeting 14 year olds with no money. Eventually you will have to break into actual fisherman that spend their own hard earned money on gear. If you’re a little prick, most people aren’t going to buy your gear and other companies and stores that might work with you will learn you are a little prick and will stop working with you fairly quickly.

So really this has nothing to do with target market and everything about not being a little prick.

Checked out The Googan Squad for the first time. For those that are not a big fan of Peric, check this out at about 5:30 mark.

Doesn’t know how his safety works and then they ground pound a duck on the water and miss. So far not impressed with the Googans.

mahtofire14 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>hnd wrote:</div>
guys, perric and co are not after your money. you are hardly the demographic they are going for.

Interesting…..An ice rod company not after fisherman’s money……Great business strategy….

In all seriousness you can’t run a business off a model targeting 14 year olds with no money. Eventually you will have to break into actual fisherman that spend their own hard earned money on gear. If you’re a little prick, most people aren’t going to buy your gear and other companies and stores that might work with you will learn you are a little prick and will stop working with you fairly quickly.

So really this has nothing to do with target market and everything about not being a little prick.

the toy and video game industry would be very interested in hearing more about your marketing methodology

Yup heard it before and probably will again, I dont know why a decent fisherman would want to hype up a show, just show natural excitement, keep hype to a very minimum, its let the show show its true colors and be what it is instead of sounding like a used car salesmen trying to sell a piece of junk, doesn’t it?

hnd wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>hnd wrote:</div>
guys, perric and co are not after your money. you are hardly the demographic they are going for.

Interesting…..An ice rod company not after fisherman’s money……Great business strategy….

In all seriousness you can’t run a business off a model targeting 14 year olds with no money. Eventually you will have to break into actual fisherman that spend their own hard earned money on gear. If you’re a little prick, most people aren’t going to buy your gear and other companies and stores that might work with you will learn you are a little prick and will stop working with you fairly quickly.

So really this has nothing to do with target market and everything about not being a little prick.

the toy and video game industry would be very interested in hearing more about your marketing methodology

We aren’t talking about toys and video games. We’re talking about ice rods….

hnd wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>hnd wrote:</div>
guys, perric and co are not after your money. you are hardly the demographic they are going for.

Interesting…..An ice rod company not after fisherman’s money……Great business strategy….

In all seriousness you can’t run a business off a model targeting 14 year olds with no money. Eventually you will have to break into actual fisherman that spend their own hard earned money on gear. If you’re a little prick, most people aren’t going to buy your gear and other companies and stores that might work with you will learn you are a little prick and will stop working with you fairly quickly.

So really this has nothing to do with target market and everything about not being a little prick.

the toy and video game industry would be very interested in hearing more about your marketing methodology

If you look at the video game market. Even they have moved on from kids. Why make a family friendly game to sell for 30 dollars that little Johnny has to ask mom and dad for. When you can make an $80 game with all the violence and in game purchases you can. The video game market isn’t aimed at kids anymore. Look at the average age of Fortnite players it is around 22 years old. Sure Nintendo is still largely aimed at kids. That’s also why they are a distant third in the race. The money always has and always will be with the adult market.

If the Frostbite guys are specifically targeting under 18. Well it’ll be interesting to see the Frostbite logo under the IceForce banner when Rapala buys them in bankruptcy court for pennies on the dollar. Targeting children isn’t a viable long term strategy anymore.

a friend runs a local bait shop. they bought a supply of Favorite rods. The jon b and perric models and a few others. They sold out of them to kids in days. kids coming in droves dropping 100+ on googan rods.

If these guys make smart business decisions, they will be fine marketing to their key demographic. which isn’t just kids. there are tons of 20-35+ social media/ youtube centric people with money to spend.

hnd wrote:

a friend runs a local bait shop. they bought a supply of Favorite rods. The jon b and perric models and a few others. They sold out of them to kids in days. kids coming in droves dropping 100+ on googan rods.

I highly doubt it, but whatever. Really don’t care enough to continue this conversation.

hnd wrote:

a friend runs a local bait shop. they bought a supply of Favorite rods. The jon b and perric models and a few others. They sold out of them to kids in days. kids coming in droves dropping 100+ on googan rods.

If these guys make smart business decisions, they will be fine marketing to their key demographic. which isn’t just kids. there are tons of 20-35+ social media/ youtube centric people with money to spend.

I’m a youtuber also (not anywhere near googan size) so I get it and I know first hand how much of an impact the youtube fishing world (especially the googans) have had in bringing youth into fishing. I respect that. But your last comment is the key and the biggest problem for Peric. There are numerous companies in the fishing and ice fishing world that he has tried to work with and the companies ended up dropping him or cancelling business with him because he is not good to work with. He is not professional. Just ask Sam Sobi or most other youtubers that have worked/collaborated with him.

Peric is unwatchable to me. I’m disappointed that Wiebe teamed up with him, but I understand. In his latest frostbite video, describing all the rods, he talks about why he did it. I just hope Aaron continues to produce his own content (hopefully more frequently than lately) and doesn’t have Peric in much of it. Uncut Angling is easily one of my fav. fishing shows on Youtube, but the second Peric shows up in anything, I have to turn it off. Even my 8 year old can’t stand the guy. Maybe he’s nice enough, I don’t know, I don’t care. I just know I can’t handle watching his videos, or anything by the Googans.

What concerns me is not seeing conservation taught well to most youtubers’ target audiences. The great thing about the angling edge, IDO, and Jason Mitchell Outdoors is that they discuss angling issues, and properly teach conservation.

Watching youtube anglers C & R crappies from the bottom in 33′ then wonder why they’re not seeing the monster fish they caught the year before is just maddening. No one’s perfect, but own it, address it, teach about it.

The demographic of any company is whoever has money. Be it working adults or people supported by working adults. If you’re 15, have a job, and don’t blow your paycheck on weed and video games I consider you a working adult. I have no doubt that dudes bait shop sold all of those rods. I also have no doubt that a majority of those kids got cash from mom and dad. I guess we would have to define “kids” though. 10? 16? 24?

I also agree with iTinker. Absolute disrespect for conservation AND personal safety in most cases. That’s what separates an amateur from a professional (regardless if your a “pro” or not, some “pros” should never hold a rod). Ethical conservation with a grasp on how it affects our hobby and future generations of anglers. This teaches our youth, and adults I suppose, nothing but how to get a lot of people pissed off at you for good reason. It’s all for show and it’s all for profit. I don’t support that.

Speaking of demographic. My local outdoor store hired a bunch of “kids” in their early 20’s last summer and guess what showed up following them like a lost puppy? A full aisle of Googan products. From what I can tell, they don’t seem all that popular.