Come on now , George Santos put it there while he was walking the stolen puppy !
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Jimmy JonesPosts: 2746July 18, 2023 at 9:52 am #2213947
I wonder how fast it would have gone under the rug had Trump been in office?
July 18, 2023 at 12:57 pm #2213959You guys don’t care about cover ups or stories swept under rugs. Youre only pissed off because the administration you oppose is getting away with it. When cover ups happen for your guy you look the other way or make up excuses or just remain silent. Stop pretending it’s the law or the principal of the matter that bothers you. If you felt the DOJ, the media or the secret service was in your pocket you wouldn’t say shi* about it
I agree, cover ups are nothing new but I don’t know how anyone can excuse or make defensive comments for this current POTUS anymore. The list is pretty long now for the current president and their administration. Nothing compared to the “orange man” or previous. NOTHING CLOSE!
I am pretty sure if Trump Jr had video smoking crack, disowning his child and receiving millions of dollars from foreign governments much more would be said from all Americans. I know I would say shi* about it.
If Trump himself called me a racist, white supremist and domestic terrorist because if my traditions and interest in my childrens future I would say shi*
If inflation, fuel cost and education were at all time highs during the Trump administration….. I would say shi* about it as well.
If we were in terrible global chaos/war during the Trump admin I would again say shi* about it.
This cocaine deal is petty. Very petty compared to what else has been going on.
This administration has divided this country in two. If you dont agree with them you are evil, racist and privileged. And their followers/supporters spew this same garbage on neighbors, family and friends while still bashing a guy that was president 3 years ago. There are not many left that are drinking the Kool-Aid but they are out there. Its embarrassing.
LeftysrconfusedPosts: 86July 18, 2023 at 1:43 pm #2213964Amen buschman. What’s really disturbing to me… all the shi7 that was thrown at Trump, because of the fake dossier that clinton funded… think about this. Someone orchestrated, to get a trump look alike… rented a room at trumps hotel in russia.. and video taped hookers peeing and getting peed on… and when it was broadcasted out by the media it was trump, it was so terrible that orange man did this… and when its found again, to be fake… its just dropped, no corrections, no retractions.. you had disgraced comey saying it is possible this was trump, nobody cares who made this fake video of the peeing…? wtf is wrong with people. geezuz.
July 18, 2023 at 1:56 pm #2213970<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>crappie55369 wrote:</div>
You guys don’t care about cover ups or stories swept under rugs. Youre only pissed off because the administration you oppose is getting away with it. When cover ups happen for your guy you look the other way or make up excuses or just remain silent. Stop pretending it’s the law or the principal of the matter that bothers you. If you felt the DOJ, the media or the secret service was in your pocket you wouldn’t say shi* about itI agree, cover ups are nothing new but I don’t know how anyone can excuse or make defensive comments for this current POTUS anymore. The list is pretty long now for the current president and their administration. Nothing compared to the “orange man” or previous. NOTHING CLOSE!
I am pretty sure if Trump Jr had video smoking crack, disowning his child and receiving millions of dollars from foreign governments much more would be said from all Americans. I know I would say shi* about it.
If Trump himself called me a racist, white supremist and domestic terrorist because if my traditions and interest in my childrens future I would say shi*
If inflation, fuel cost and education were at all time highs during the Trump administration….. I would say shi* about it as well.
If we were in terrible global chaos/war during the Trump admin I would again say shi* about it.
This cocaine deal is petty. Very petty compared to what else has been going on.
This administration has divided this country in two. If you dont agree with them you are evil, racist and privileged. And their followers/supporters spew this same garbage on neighbors, family and friends while still bashing a guy that was president 3 years ago. There are not many left that are drinking the Kool-Aid but they are out there. Its embarrassing.
^^^^^ Buschman 1,000 % Nailed it. I’m just sick of being lied to. It doesn’t matter to me what side is doing the Lying. The sad thing is there are people out there that 100% believe everything that is being told to them by this Current President and his handlers. These same people believed 0 % of what was said by the prior president. I’ve said it over and over and will keep saying it. The current system is broken and can not work in todays world.
July 18, 2023 at 4:07 pm #2213995When the government controls the media & the messages… we cease to be represented and a truly free country. Look no further than Tucker Carlson. He put a small sample of the Jan 6 tapes out on his program… people started waking up to the corruption and the false narrative of Jan 6… he promised to expose more. He was the most watched cable news program ….EVER. And they fired him. Not suspicious at all. I should go and fire my my best employee right now that is bringing in the most money.. cause that makes sense.
July 18, 2023 at 5:01 pm #2214007Look no further than Tucker Carlson. He put a small sample of the Jan 6 tapes out on his program… people started waking up to the corruption and the false narrative of Jan 6… he promised to expose more. He was the most watched cable news program ….EVER
Those Russians sure do love their TV
July 18, 2023 at 5:24 pm #2214010When the government controls the media & the messages… we cease to be represented and a truly free country. Look no further than Tucker Carlson. He put a small sample of the Jan 6 tapes out on his program… people started waking up to the corruption and the false narrative of Jan 6… he promised to expose more. He was the most watched cable news program ….EVER. And they fired him. Not suspicious at all. I should go and fire my my best employee right now that is bringing in the most money.. cause that makes sense.
Maybe, just maybe, it was the $700M in civil judgments against fox. Nah, too convenient.
July 18, 2023 at 6:59 pm #2214020My thoughts exactly. I know it sounds cool to say Tucker was a martyr because it fits a heroic narrative but it may have also had to do with the fact that a court of law pointed out that Fox News was lying to viewers for years. And those viewers (as evident on this site) drooled over that news and ate it up for years because it’s what they wanted to hear.
July 18, 2023 at 7:43 pm #2214024Fox is trash. CNN, MSNBC, and so on are all biased in various ways and not responsibly reporting tons of news…but Fox takes the cake as the ultimate dumpster with their own anchors’ lying and whatnot as documented in personal communications then flipping the switch when broadcasting to feed the chaos.
^This is coming from a moderately conservative guy on social issues, fiscally conservative, someone who was lukewarm on trump but supported him over Biden…and now thinks both need to go and not be a part of politics as they’re both terrible.
Maybe this all has changed though and I haven’t tuned in enough to see it (this thread shows me otherwise though). I can’t for the life of me bring myself to turn on the national news. It’s beyond the media bias, but also the fact that I’m genuinely embarrassed by some of the people we’ve elected on both sides, how divisive the 2 party system has become, and how morals and values for both leaders and families in society are too often afterthoughts.
If you think one side is all right, all wrong, all good, or all bad…you are the ultimate sheep and part of the issue.
July 18, 2023 at 7:44 pm #2214025Dan, do you think CNN, msnbc or NPR are any different ??
They have lied over and over yet it just gets buried. I think that’s the point of this post. All networks and politic flirt the truth to suck you in. The funny part is that 90% of what fox reported turned out to be true. See my comments above.
Someone mentioned 700 million settlement for Fox.. How much of that do you think Tucker received for settlement on the release from fox. My guess is he is doing just fine and he actually owns up to his faults or errors. Maybe that has helped him??
July 18, 2023 at 7:46 pm #2214026^This is coming from a moderately conservative guy on social issues, fiscally conservative, someone who was lukewarm on trump but supported him over Biden…and now thinks both need to go and not be a part of politics as they’re both terrible.
The thought of another Trump vs Biden general election in 2024 makes me want to vomit. And this is also coming from someone who is moderately conservative.
July 18, 2023 at 7:53 pm #2214027Dan, do you think CNN, msnbc or NPR are any different ??
They have lied over and over yet it just gets buried. I think that’s the point of this post. All networks and politic flirt the truth to suck you in. The funny part is that 90% of what fox reported turned out to be true. See my comments above.
Someone mentioned 700 million settlement for Fox.. How much of that do you think Tucker received for settlement on the release from fox. My guess is he is doing just fine and he actually owns up to his faults or errors. Maybe that has helped him??
Enough with the whataboutisms already. I had a post and your reply is just a “yeah, but…..” That’s all debates and arguments have become nowadays.
July 18, 2023 at 8:02 pm #2214031“If you think one side is all right, all wrong, all good, or all bad…you are the ultimate sheep and part of the issue.”
I agree 100%
The only difference is that I also believe that marketing, media and big money are the majority of what is steering this contention. politicians are just puppets on the isle. beyond Fox or some other off stream outlets the majority of what is pushed on us is this left side. All the way into our preschools now. Any resistance to this and I am instantly labeled as a trumper, racist, POS tax payer by our current system.
I do have an issue with this and the only reason I actually care about it now.
July 18, 2023 at 9:52 pm #2214046Someone mentioned 700 million settlement for Fox.. How much of that do you think Tucker received for settlement on the release from fox. My guess is he is doing just fine and he actually owns up to his faults or errors. Maybe that has helped him??
That only furthers the point that Fox and Tucker are pushing blatant lies that directly and unfairly damaged other businesses. If fox got stuck with a $700M bill and paid Tucker, it just shows absolutely devastating he was for fox. Dominion is only the beginning. Fox has other similar suits against them.
I’m not so sure he got paid either. I’m pretty he was fired for breach of contract so he is still obligated to adhere to its restrictions. He is being sued by fox now for starting his own show on Twitter.
July 18, 2023 at 10:02 pm #2214048One of the saddest things is the division these clowns are sowing amongst us all.
What’s worse is Americans are left with Trump or Biden. Neither excite me. Biden is incompetent and Wokism is just plain absurd and Trump has his own issues.
Neither of the current parties have our best interests in hand.
Apologies for any and all offenses but there’s too much passion surrounding our state of affairs and I clearly get drawn in too easily.
I’ll go back to the Twins now.July 19, 2023 at 6:22 am #2214054Back to the original topic, you can now see why I think it was Joe’s cocaine. Without it, he falls asleep in the middle of a sentence while speaking one on one with another world leader.
July 19, 2023 at 8:15 am #2214067My thoughts exactly. I know it sounds cool to say Tucker was a martyr because it fits a heroic narrative but it may have also had to do with the fact that a court of law pointed out that Fox News was lying to viewers for years. And those viewers (as evident on this site) drooled over that news and ate it up for years because it’s what they wanted to hear.
If it weren’t so stupid it would be funny.. all his “lies” and conspiracy theories are coming out as true and factual. One only needs to know, if CNN and MSNBC and Binder call it a “conspiracy theory”.. in time it becomes fact. Does that not make CNN & the others the liars ??? For some reason, it doesn’t ??? How come Fox or any other network, is not scrambling to get the Jan 6 tapes that Tucker had, to continue airing them ??? Because they would expose more “lies” as truth. 81m votes….
July 19, 2023 at 8:35 am #2214073How come Fox or any other network, is not scrambling to get the Jan 6 tapes that Tucker had, to continue airing them ??? Because they would expose more “lies” as truth. 81m votes….
http://www.cnn.com/2023/04/12/politics/media-organizations-sue-surveillance-tapes/index.html
July 19, 2023 at 8:59 am #2214078More theater. My question is how come the defense attorneys do not have access to it ? The prosecutors are using bits and pieces to convict people, but it is not made available to the defense ? Illegal.
July 19, 2023 at 9:11 am #2214081“That’s because the people are charged for the crimes they committed.” -Biggill
Soooo when are we going to see someone charged for the cocaine? They know who did it, and Biden and Kamala have made a lot of their careers off of putting people in jail for possession, so surely we will see some charges soon right? BuT PeOpLe ArE ChArGeD fOr ThE CrImEs ThEy CoMmIt.
July 19, 2023 at 9:57 am #2214100I’m dunno werm. I’m not the one who makes that decision. Maybe go back and read the rest of my comment instead of taking a single sentence out of context like usual.
I hope you don’t spend your whole morning digging for that comment.
July 19, 2023 at 10:06 am #2214104I’m dunno werm. I’m not the one who makes that decision. Maybe go back and read the rest of my comment instead of taking a single sentence out of context like usual.
I hope you don’t spend your whole morning digging for that comment.
I did, and you quadrupled down on their not being any political bias in charges filed. Your point was basically these honest and hard working prosecutors only work off of the evidence and bring appropriate charges based on said evidence…just not always I guess right? Which was my point. You can acknowledge that a lot more than just the evidence goes into charging decisions, or not. I don’t care, but it’s pretty clear to anyone honestly paying attention. And it took about 38 seconds to find that and your other comments quadrupling down on it, thanks for your concern!
CaptainMuskyPosts: 22280July 19, 2023 at 5:59 pm #2214221<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>big_g wrote:</div>
WHO ORDERED THE CODE RED ?You cant handle the truth!
Thats pretty obvious. The question had nothing to do with what party said or did what. The question was how can the secrete service and FBI not find any evidence of who did it. Again, it was reported on the evening news and the next morning there was no mention on the morning news. Same station.
July 19, 2023 at 6:36 pm #2214225Trump is the worst president this country has ever had. Reality tv game show host who only cared about ratings. And i say that as a conservative who does not like the current administration. I dont give a rats patootie whos coke it was. The war on drugs is dumb and is not a winnable war in the way it has been fought in the last 40 years. Trump did more to divide this country than any president in my lifetime. He is a danger to the us and the world.
United we stand, DIVIDED WE FALL
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