Friday night topic……I was wrong

  • Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16776
    #2232864

    Few weeks ago I would have bet money that Israel would have flatted Gaza by now and Hamas would go the way of Bin Laden. How wrong I’ve been, so far just a constant shelling and a couple of test incursions. Maybe it gets to going this weekend? Seems the U.S. will square off in Syria first and then go after Iran when they screw up, as they will. Next we will be threatening China because there fighter jets are being a pain in our bombers ass. Lest we forget, the Russians are still fighting in Ukraine.

    Funny how a mass shooting in our country puts the Ukraine and the Southern Border on the back burner.

    Might I suggest we include all of our armed forces in our prayers as this is all heading the wrong direction.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2232869

    There are more tunnel systems in Gaza than people know. I bet those air strikes haven’t taken out even 10% of the Hamas forces. Isreal knows if they go into Gaza it could get ugly real fast. It’s a trap that Hamas wants. They took two years to plan their attack and I’m sure they were smart enough to know Isreal would try to come into Gaza to attack them. I’m betting they are more than ready for them.

    ssaamm
    Pequot Lakes
    Posts: 865
    #2232874

    Can’t believe that religion can lead to such death and chaos. In my opinion the message should be ‘don’t be a dink’. I’m making it too simple. Hard to believe you can hate a group so much.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23359
    #2232876

    They’ve fought for hundreds of not thousands of years and will continue for the same amount more unless one is eradicated. There is no peace between them.

    wkw
    Posts: 733
    #2232885

    I’ve heard the underground infra-structure that Hamas has is massive. Mostly built with humanitarian aid dollars sent by the US. (Sean Hannity)

    Deuces
    Posts: 5268
    #2232926

    There’s so much more to the isreali Pakistan conflict than jets, fighters, and strips of land its baffling. The politics of that region are so F’ed no one event will cause isreal to really take over any major strip anymore. They’re backed into a geographical and political corner and will continue to take it on the chin until they have enough immediate adjacent allies to hold something. And that won’t happen anytime soon.

    mnmarlin
    Posts: 83
    #2232937

    I try to understand the situation and do some research on who what where why, but its so complicated I can’t even begin to understand the hatred. I agree, I can’t imagine why the factions have such hatred for each other and agree that the only way they’ll stop is if everybody on all sides is eliminated (probably not going to happen). Just another quagmire for our government to spend hundreds of billions on with no possible solution.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #2232938

    My daughters boyfriend that is in the Nation Guard has already been put on notice to be deployed early next year.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16776
    #2232945

    My daughters boyfriend that is in the Nation Guard has already been put on notice to be deployed early next year.

    As I mentioned earlier there are sparks now in 3 area’s of the world. As we know from our past summer it doesn’t take much for a spark to turn into a brush fire. I’m afraid people are going to die, lots of people before the fires are all out.

    wkw
    Posts: 733
    #2232951

    Barack and Joe thought sending a plane load of cash would make Iran love us and we’d all be sitting in a circle singing kum-bi-ya. They laughed all the way to the bank and used the money to finance Hamas and Hezbollah. Hate Trump if you want, but at least he had the world’s bad guys sitting on the side lines and hiding in a cave wondering what he was going to do next. Circling like a pack of wolves, they now see weakness and are ready to pounce. You can’t negotiate with terrorists. All you can do is kill em all. That is their goal for us.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16776
    #2232963

    Putting the terrorists back in caves is the best way to control them. Identify the country’s that harbor and support them. Cut off all funding to those country’s, not a dime, not a bushel of wheat. When they take care of the terrorists in their country revisit our commitment to them.

    Being the guardians and economic supporters to the whole earth has to stop. We are dragging our own country down a rat hole we will never climb out of.

    Sounds harsh but being the good guy isn’t getting us anywhere either.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 23359
    #2232964

    Being the guardians and economic supporters to the whole earth has to stop. We are dragging our own country down a rat hole we will never climb out of.

    100%. The rest of the world doesnt see us as the good guys either when we think we are the good guys.

    eyekatcher
    Lakeville, MN
    Posts: 968
    #2232972

    there have already been casualties at Ain al-Asad base they are not telling us about.

    Jimmy Jones
    Posts: 2902
    #2232976

    Putting the terrorists back in caves is the best way to control them. Identify the country’s that harbor and support them. Cut off all funding to those country’s, not a dime, not a bushel of wheat. When they take care of the terrorists in their country revisit our commitment to them.

    Being the guardians and economic supporters to the whole earth has to stop. We are dragging our own country down a rat hole we will never climb out of.

    Sounds harsh but being the good guy isn’t getting us anywhere either.

    This is the way and should be implimented post haste. Great comeback Dutch.

    wkw
    Posts: 733
    #2232977

    And how many potential terrorists have came through our open southern border and scattered all over the country?

    bclii
    MN/AZ
    Posts: 478
    #2232978

    And how many potential terrorists have came through our open southern border and scattered all over the country?

    Time will only tell!

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16776
    #2232979

    They come across the Canadian Border as well, just not as many.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11040
    #2233058

    The problem with the US not policing the world is that China or Russia will continue to take over countries and monetary properties. The other countries don’t do any policing if we don’t take the lead first. It’s not ideal, but it’s how it is. China has already taken over Afghanistan and bought up one of the largest lithium deposits in the world after we abandoned that area. If we don’t stick our nose in places we have interests in our competitors and enemies will. They are already getting a leg up on us because of how inept this administration has been at seeing things.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22535
    #2233241

    I read that terrorists are now set up in all 50 states…. its coming.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8389
    #2233247

    The problem with the US not policing the world is that China or Russia will continue to take over countries and monetary properties. The other countries don’t do any policing if we don’t take the lead first. It’s not ideal, but it’s how it is. China has already taken over Afghanistan and bought up one of the largest lithium deposits in the world after we abandoned that area. If we don’t stick our nose in places we have interests in our competitors and enemies will. They are already getting a leg up on us because of how inept this administration has been at seeing things.

    At a simplistic level, I hate the US being the “world police” and sticking up for countries and groups that often cannot reciprocate or even care for the help. It is expensive, it costs us troops, and some say it jeopardizes our safety.

    What I hate even more though, is the thought of war and attacks on our own soil. Oversees aid is crazy expensive when we have our own financial crisis, but the reality is that the longer we support these other countries and prop them up as the low hanging fruit against our enemies…the more likely we are to be safe here at home. In a previous post I mentioned that Israel will never be a safe place nor will people in that region ever leave Israel alone as one of our allies. However, it is a focal point away from our own soil for many who hate the United States and our way of life (as cruel as that sounds – it is the truth).

    Sparklesonthewater
    Grinnell, Ia
    Posts: 127
    #2233273

    My son is in the National Guard and was deployed to Saudi Arabia, Oct 19th for a year. They will bounce around over there, Gaza, Iran, Kuwait and Qatar. My prayers are with him and his unit. I don’t watch the news for a reason but more so now.

    Dan
    Southeast MN
    Posts: 3864
    #2233281

    My son is in the National Guard and was deployed to Saudi Arabia, Oct 19th for a year. They will bounce around over there, Gaza, Iran, Kuwait and Qatar. My prayers are with him and his unit. I don’t watch the news for a reason but more so now.

    He’s got my prayers and appreciation as well. I was in his shoes headed to the middle east twice from 2004-2007. I know I’m just some random IDO user but feel free to reach out if you’ve got any questions or if I could be of any help. It’s extremely tough on the parents, so prayers for you and your family as well. Your son is doing a very well-respected thing and hundreds of millions of us here at home make up a grateful nation that appreciates what he and others are doing.

    shefland
    Walker
    Posts: 499
    #2233282

    I just do not understand, why are the jewish people hated so much? its been going on for ages

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22535
    #2233292

    I just do not understand, why are the jewish people hated so much? its been going on for ages

    Real top level, for religious folks, the Jewish people are the ones who chose to crucify Jesus… instead of Barrabas, the thief and rapist. But either way, it had to happen as it was prophesized to happen this way. Among many other things over the centuries.

    John Rasmussen
    Blaine
    Posts: 6460
    #2233302

    My son is in the National Guard and was deployed to Saudi Arabia, Oct 19th for a year. They will bounce around over there, Gaza, Iran, Kuwait and Qatar. My prayers are with him and his unit. I don’t watch the news for a reason but more so now.

    Sheryl I hope your son the very best and a safe return. He has my respect and prayers. Hope you and Sheldon are doing well.

    Dan that was very well said and I know you mean it about her reaching out.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2233305

    And how many potential terrorists have came through our open southern border and scattered all over the country?

    Nowhere near as many that were born and raised here.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22535
    #2233314

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>wkw wrote:</div>
    And how many potential terrorists have came through our open southern border and scattered all over the country?

    Nowhere near as many that were born and raised here.

    Lots of truth to this. sad

    Sparklesonthewater
    Grinnell, Ia
    Posts: 127
    #2233352

    Thanks Dan, I will keep that in mind when I have a bad day about it. I’m very proud of him, just very scared for him( he’s the youngest and my baby boy) always will be no matter how old he gets.lol

    MX1825
    Posts: 3319
    #2233393

    Thoughts and prayers Sheryl for his safe return. My utmost respect for all our men in service.
    I Hope you and Sheldon are doing well and in good health after your wild summer.

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