most of my buds closed down their campers already, tough to make weekend trip when kids get going in football/volleyball/band and other school stuff. There are a few die hards still making the trip, and most of the stuff I hear about come from the Platte Creek to Snake Creek areas. The last guy I spoke with had no luck around these areas so he headed toward the dam a ways and had the best luck there. Still think you should stay in the 12-18 foot range, but try shallower in the low light hours. I have been doing good with the glass raps, others swear by the jointed rap. Not much leadcore, just long line with crystal fireline. Most of the junk from the high water should be gone. Let us know how things go.