Fish and Game

  • Umy
    South Metro
    Posts: 1948
    #2104319

    I got this story from an “old farm boy friend of mine from down South”
    Pretty good read…..

    The State of Kentucky Department of Fish and Wildlife sends a letter to a home/landowner asking for permission to access a creek on his property to document the decline in a certain species of unheard of frogs.

    The property owners’ response in the second letter is EPIC.

    Letter from Kentucky Dept. Of Fish & Wildlife:

    Dear Landowner:
    KDFWR Staff will be conducting surveys for foothill yellow-legged frogs & other amphibians over the next few months. As part of this research we would like to survey the creek on your property. I am writing this letter to request your permission to access your property.

    Recent research indicates that foothill yellow-legged frogs have declined significantly in recent years and are no longer found at half their historic sites. Your cooperation will be greatly appreciated and will help contribute to the conservation of this important species.

    Please fill out the attached postage-paid postcard and let us know if you are willing to let us cross your property or not.
    If you have any concerns about this project please give us a call. We would love to talk with you about our research.

    Sincerely

    Steve Niemela
    Conservation Strategy Implementation Biologist

    RESPONSE FROM LANDOWNERS:

    Dear Mr. Niemela:

    Thank you for your inquiry regarding accessing our property to survey for the yellow-legged frog. We may be able to help you out with this matter.

    We have divided our 2.26 acres into 75 equal survey units with a draw tag for each unit. Application fees are only $8.00 per unit after you purchase the “Frog Survey License” ($120.00 resident / $180.00 Non-Resident). You will also need to obtain a “Frog Habitat” parking permit ($10.00 per vehicle).

    You will also need an “Invasive Species” stamp ($15.00 for the first vehicle and $5.00 for each add’l vehicle) You will also want to register at the Check Station to have your vehicle inspected for Non-native plant life prior to entering our property. There is also a Day Use fee, $5.00 per vehicle.

    If you are successful in the Draw you will be notified two weeks in advance so you can make necessary plans and purchase your “Creek Habitat” stamp. ($18.00 Resident / $140.00 Non-Resident).

    Survey units open between 8 am. And 3 PM. But you cannot commence survey until 9 am. And must cease all survey activity by 1 PM.

    Survey Gear can only include a net with a 2″ diameter made of 100% organic cotton netting with no longer than an 18 in handle, non-weighted and no deeper than 6′ from net frame to bottom of net. Handles can only be made of BPA-free plastics or wooden handles.

    After 1 PM. You can use a net with a 3″ diameter if you purchase the “Frog Net Endorsement” ($75.00 Resident / $250 Non-Resident).

    Any frogs captured that are released will need to be released with an approved release device back into the environment unharmed.

    As of June 1, we are offering draw tags for our “Premium Survey” units and application is again only $8.00 per application.

    However, all fees can be waived if you can verify “Native Indian Tribal rights and status”.

    You will also need to provide evidence of successful completion of “Frog Surveys and Your” comprehensive course on frog identification, safe handling practices, and self-defense strategies for frog attacks.

    This course is offered on-line through an accredited program for a nominal fee of $750.00.

    Please let us know if we can be of assistance to you. Otherwise, we decline your access to our property but appreciate your inquiry.

    Sincerely,

    Larry & Amanda Anderson.

    E4mo
    Posts: 68
    #2104322

    Whether true or fiction, I really appreciate this story.

    Reef W
    Posts: 2710
    #2104328

    Whether true or fiction, I really appreciate this story.

    Was in Oregon last time I read it…

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11897
    #2104330

    That’s Good. Sad how close to true it is when dealing with anything DNR controlled these days.

    Snake ii’s
    Posts: 515
    #2104340

    The northern DPS of the mountain yellow-legged frog occurs only in the western Sierra Nevada and extends from south of the Monarch Divide in Fresno County through portions of the Kern River drainage. Most of these frogs are now found on National Forest and National Park lands.

    Oregon may be accurate for their natural range, but Kentucky is not.

    Buffalo Fishhead
    Posts: 302
    #2104341

    I believe this story has been attributed to a few different states with different critters.

    Buffalo Fishhead

    Umy
    South Metro
    Posts: 1948
    #2104343

    I appreciate the “fact check”
    I honestly thought the frog was indeed fictional but the story goes in line with the DNR nicely don’t you think?
    Sad about the frog AND the DNR bawling

    DeRangedFishinguy
    Up Nort’
    Posts: 301
    #2104437

    As someone who is just beginning to dip their toes into the world of western hunting applications this year, this was an awesome read!

    It’s amazing just how ridiculous navigating the rules, applications, draws, fees, etc. just to go out of state to hunt an elk and mule deer are. It’s a bucket list trip for me but I almost want to back out just because it’s so absurd and expensive.

    duh queen
    Posts: 547
    #2104463

    A story doesn’t need to be true to be good. In fact, I’d wager that the best stories are almost always fiction….or at least embellished for effect.

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
    Posts: 11761
    #2104467

    That senerio the OP put up I seen couple years ago.and it varies by critter, owner and state. Essentially it’s a joke from what I gather.

    Umy
    South Metro
    Posts: 1948
    #2104468

    Haha, pretty true in most cases in my experience.
    Long as we’re here this one is completely true:
    I was in the recreation ski races at Buckhill for a few years.
    Every Wednesday nite would head out to the hill from work, get my requisite 2 18.8 – 18.2 second runs in yay and then to the bar for food and drink.
    It’s -10 with a windchill one nite.
    I head into the john and I’m standing there undoing my jacket, my bibs, my extra pair of wool shorts to keep the seat chill off my ass, my under armor and then my underwear.
    the guys next to me, going through the same routine says ” this ain’t gonna work, I got two inches of clothes and only one inch of – ick!”
    Almost peed all over myself!! hah

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