Pool 4 Walleye & Misguided Preparations

  • James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #1240555

    Yesterday I had a guide trip on Pool 4 of the Mississippi River that I’m still pondering on in the hopes of coming away a little smarter about the habits of my favorite species…. the walleye.

    With the incoming cold front I made the assumption that I would need to slow down all presentations if I was going to be successful. I planned to fish more livebait. I rigged up extra rods to be ready to slow troll three ways and livebait. I had rods rigged and ready to go to drag ultra-light jigs tipped with crawlers and leeches. I even added in 4 spinning rods set up with slipsinker livebait rigs just in case we would need to focus in on a small target area and need to fish bait deadstick slow to put fish in the boat.

    Our day started at 7 AM. This was a special day because it was the guide trip I donated for the Brandon Rolen Foundation auctions held last month and I really wanted ot show the winners of that auction a great time on the water.

    The backwater areas north of Pepin had been giving up good quantities of fish over the last week and I was confident we could get on a nice batch of quality fish in those side channels and cuts, despite the drastic weather change.

    We started dragging light jigs tipped with leeches and crawlers along the edge of a current seam in 3′ – 4′ of water in an area that has been loaded with nice walleyes of late. Our start wasn’t so much slow as it was frustrating! The fish were there. They would peck at the baits. But hookups with quality fish were non-existent.

    For the better part of an hour we fed the fish. Literally. The guys I fished with were experienced anglers and could tell the difference between a walleye “thunk” and the tap-tap of a sheepshead or little sauger and we were getting bit, but the fish just would NOT do anything more than lip the baits. Several times we had decent fish hooked up only to have them come off after a short fight.

    At that point the situation called for a change in tactics.

    We pulled the jig dragging gear and opted to try our hand at SLOW trolling 3 ways and livebait into the current in the same areas where the jigs failed to turn nipping fish into boated walleye.

    Trolling 3 ways and bait into the current can be the ultimate in precision and control when done correctly. You are able to control forward movement down to a tenth of a mile an hour or you can even hover right over the top of the fish indefinitely if need be. The position of the bait in relationship to the bottom of the river can be manipulated by changing the dropper length to fine tune the presentation and put that offering right on the fishes’ nose and hold it there.

    Unfortunately further slowing down our presentation did little to improve our hookup ratio and we continued to feed leeches to unseen fishes at an alarming rate with nothing to show for our efforts beyond a few sub-legal walleyes and a smattering of whitebass and sheepshead.

    Since slowing down did nothing for our bite I decided to go in the opposite direction and break out the crankbait rods. One would think that after that nasty cold front rolled through the fish surely wouldn’t hit a crankbait if they were so inactive that they would only nip at a lively leech, right?

    WRONG! As in doubles and triples wrong.

    Our first pass with crankbaits, #5 craw pattern shad raps did the most damage, produced simultaneous hookups on a 19″ walleye and another just short of 20″. In an area where we had been fishing livebait with nothing to show for our efforts. A little further along our first pass we stick another legal eye. And then another. And another.

    The fish were not deeply hooked, in fact just about every boated fish fell off in the net once we took the pressure off the hooks once the fish hit the bottom of the net bag.

    The fish seemed to be nipping at the cranks in much the same way they were nipping at and holding onto our livebait offerings… of course a crankbait, with all those hooks, is a lot harder to drop after the bait is half-heartedly struck than a jig and leech combo.

    So to satisfy my curious mind we had to go back through this same area with livebait just to see if the fish “turned on” and would strike anything put in front of them now or if they were still acting like little bait stealing perch.

    Two more passes through the area with livebait and we had 1 small whitebass and a little sheepshead to show for our time.

    On a coldfront day with 25+ mph winds I couldn’t buy a walleye on a leech or crawler. We ended up boxing 13 legal walleyes and saugers caught on cranks on a day when I spent WAY too much time trying to slow down and carefully work known fish holding areas when the fish were telling me from the first pass of the day… no bait today!

    I love walleye fishing. Yesterday was a day that will stick in my head as a day where I tried to out think the fish and only managed to out think myself. Hopefully I’ll be a smarter angler for it down the road.

    fishinallday
    Montrose Mn
    Posts: 2101
    #572183

    Great report James! Very good read.

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2578
    #572204

    Very cool stuff, James. I experience the “out thinking myself” phenomenon fairly regularly. Thanks for posting the report explaining how you dealt with it!

    rvvrrat
    The Sand Prairie
    Posts: 1840
    #572227

    I had a very similar day last week when the cold front had just come thru. Tried slow troll upriver and live bait. Was going to move to another spot and decided to “troll” my way there – downriver at ~ 5mph. then it happened – Wham, wham a 22 and a 20. Ended up getting quite a few the same way. I told a friend about it and explained that we ended up running upriver so we could troll downriver – his response – “That is just wrong”

    drewsdad
    Crosby, MN
    Posts: 3138
    #572232

    I rarely have the problem you ran into James. I can’t stand SLOWWWWWWW presentations. So if that is what they want I’m usually hosed…………….

    Good job of figuring it out sir!

    dd

    Jack Naylor
    Apple Valley, MN
    Posts: 5668
    #572233

    Quote:


    Yesterday was a day that will stick in my head as a day where I tried to out think the fish and only managed to out think myself. Hopefully I’ll be a smarter angler for it down the road


    Nice job in figuring it out, and gettin ‘er done…

    Sometimes just tooo much thinking gets in the way of tried and true. But that same thinking makes you keep changing things up til you find one that gets the bites you are looking for.

    And all for a great cause, Brandon’s Foundation….
    Congratulations on your day.
    Have a great 2007 season.
    Jack..

    fishman1
    Dubuque, Iowa
    Posts: 1030
    #572272

    Great report. It just goes to show that just when you think you might have them figured out they up and surprise you doing something completely different. I do know that it seems walleyes can spit out a jig, crawler or leech faster than they take it in. That has to be a little more difficult to do with a crankbait.

    Eyehunter

    Steve Root
    South St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 5623
    #572282

    Great job, James. I always enjoy reading about a trip where a mystery had to be solved. It’s fun to hear about your success and having your hard work rewarded.

    I’ve seen too many exceptions to be a firm believer in rules. Days when the weather was perfect, you couldn’t buy a bite. Post cold front/blue skies/windy and they bit like crazy. Fish hitting fast presentations in really cold water. Walleyes living in Cabbage beds and hitting Spinnerbaits like Bass. The list is endless….

    I guess I don’t try and figure them out. Fish behavior is much more complex than I’ll ever be able to understand. I get hopelessly confused if I try to determine where they should be and what they should be doing.

    Instead I use the “library method”. By this I mean I try to learn as many different ways to catch fish as possible and have all of those techniques in my “Library” ready to use. If method #1 doesn’t produce, then try #2. Then #3…If something about the weather and time of year and water chemistry reminds you of a similar circumstance where method #7 worked, then use idea #7 first.

    This may not be the most elegant way to find fish but it works for me.

    Rootski

    dave-barber
    St Francis, MN
    Posts: 2100
    #572295

    James,

    Though I don’t see myself as an expert walleye fisherman… I learned somewhere on down the line that, if they are biting short, stealing bait, and generally being non-commital on slow trolling or deadstick livebait… speed up the presentation. I think a common misperception is that speedy presentations are for hungry, aggressive walleye. Quite the contrary, I have learned, and I believe, that speeding up the presentation has more to do with triggering a response out of sub-active fish. As you saw with the light hookups on the cranks… you triggered the response even when the eye’s commitment to taking the bait seemed to lack conviction. The pricise ability to obtain that knee-jerk reaction from, otherwise, dormant fish is what separates a good fisherman from a truly great fisherman. Congratulations on setting yourself apart from the pack!!!

    amfyoyo1
    Iowa
    Posts: 156
    #572410

    That’s the best written report I’ve seen. got me to thinking. Thanks.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13294
    #572464

    So what are you starting with tomorrow?

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #572468

    Well, to be honest, if the wind is right I’ll start out with dragging jigs. But you can bet your bottom dollar those crank rods will come out sooner if the bite is slow.

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