Evinrude 1982 7.5 Recoil Starter issues

  • Chris McLendon
    Posts: 7
    #1896206

    I have a 1982 evinrude 7.5 that I just rebuilt the carb on. When I was disassembling the starter recoil the spring popped out and bonded all up on itself. I was able to get it straightened out but after reassembling it when I pull the cord the cam dosent lift up now to engage the flywheel. I was just curious if the spring could be the issue or if I should look somewhere else I’ve reassembled it 5 times now and keep getting the same issue with it. Any help is greatly appreciated!!

    Bob Carlson
    Mille Lacs Lake (eastside), Mn.
    Posts: 2936
    #1896207

    I would suggest looking at a youtube video. It will help you determine how the assembly should be.

    Chris McLendon
    Posts: 7
    #1896208

    I have reassembled it correctly but the issue is the cam gear isnt raising to engage the flywheel when I pull the cord it just spins. I’ve correctly installed it and wound up the spring tension everything seems good just isnt lifting the cam to engage. Trying to see if maybe I messed up the spring when I took it apart and it bound all up. Or if I have a different area i need to look at. Thank you for the quick response!

    Iowaboy1
    Posts: 3827
    #1896214

    Chris,I have no clue what you are using for a diagram or parts manual but I looked this up at marineengine.com to give you an exploded view of what you are dealing with.
    I took a stab at the model number but they should be about the same in that year and horsepower range,hope this helps !
    make sure you didnt lose or misplace any parts.
    if everything is put back in place properly and the starter drive still doesnt raise up when you pull on the cord,it may be dirty and bound up on the spiral it climbs to engage the ring gear on the flywheel.

    http://www.marineengine.com/parts/johnson-evinrude-parts.php?year=1982&hp=7.5&model=E8RCNR&manufacturer=Evinrude&section=Rewind+Starter+-+7.5

    Chris McLendon
    Posts: 7
    #1896216

    Ok is the rope supposed to go between the rope guide and spindle as I have it or on the outside of it? I’m thinking I got it wrong. Engine model number is E8SRLCNR I apologize for not including that.

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    Iowaboy1
    Posts: 3827
    #1896218

    in looking at your picture and the parts list I gave you it appears you have it wound the wrong way

    Chris McLendon
    Posts: 7
    #1896221

    What do you mean? The cord needs to be rewound the opposite way? And is it correct in between the rod and spindle or should it be on the outside? Your awesome I really appreciate the help!!

    Iowaboy1
    Posts: 3827
    #1896222

    the parts list shows the rope to be on the outside of the spool where yours is on the inside,been a few years since I have worked on a ‘rude starter and if I had it in my hands it would all come back to me.
    so,is it possible you have the spool upside down?? for the life of me I cant remember if thats even possible.

    it makes sense that the way you have it now is correct as the long bolt would help hold the rope in place while it climbed and retracted on the spool instead of being able to flop off.
    double check that the drive gear will climb the spiral by moving it manually,if not something is bound up.
    sorry I am not much more help than that,too many mercs between ‘rudes lol

    Chris McLendon
    Posts: 7
    #1896223

    The spool is not upside down as that is the way I took it off. No need to apologize I know it’s hard diagnosing somenthing online brother. I’ll have to search because now you do have me thinking I got somenthing wrong with the pull string and how its wound. It seems to be real tight in the space between the rod and the spool hence me asking if it maybe goes on the outside of the rod. I’ll keep plugging away at it and see if I cant figure it out.This is my first time ever messing with a boat motor so this is all new to me lol. Thank you for the help and fast responses!!

    Iowaboy1
    Posts: 3827
    #1896224

    it is a pleasure helping someone who is trying to learn and fix something for yourself whether you are newbie or an old timer who is stumped,been there a few times myself.

    now,when you get it fixed and I know you will,stick around,this a great forum with a bunch of great souls here and we razz the crap out of each other a lot.
    also,pay forward what you have learned and dont be afraid to post something.
    welcome aboard !

    Chris McLendon
    Posts: 7
    #1896227

    Thank you very much sir I’ll post updates once I get this figured out. Just watched a video and seems I have it exactly how it should be so I’m stumped now but will keep at it or just replace it and see if that fixes the issue.

    Chris McLendon
    Posts: 7
    #1896228

    The drive gear is free and able to climb the spiral just ont do it when I pull the cord unless I lift it up a hard as I’m pulling it.

    Iowaboy1
    Posts: 3827
    #1896229

    sent you a PM,be looking for a flashing envelope sign in the upper right hand corner of the page.

    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11832
    #1896731

    I have an 87 Johnson 7.5 out in my shop. If you can wait a day or two, I’ll snap pictures of the recoil.

    I suspect you have it wound backward. The Bendix gear won’t “fly” out to engage the flywheel because pulling the recoil rope is turning the shaft in the wrong direction.

    If you look closely at which way the starter/recoil shaft is rotating and then see which way that rotation would, in turn, spin the flywheel, you should be able to determine if it’s the correct way. If not, that confirms the recoil is wound backward. I think (Sheldon, help me out here!) that the direction of rotation is stamped on the flywheel top.

    BTW, not to be a smart arse, just so you know, the best way to handle those starters is to take out the top bolt, remove the whole starter without removing the shaft bolt, and then run laps of electrical tape around them to prevent anything from coming apart.

    Also, the 7.5 OMC is the best small outboard ever made.

    Will get pics as soon as I’m able.

    Grouse

    rkb1041
    Posts: 35
    #1896737

    Hi Chris, It looks to me like the rope is wound the correct way. I suspect the problem is in number 12 in the parts breakdown. It is the spring that is attached to the bottom of the drive. It creates drag so the drive ramps up into the flywheel. I would take it off and pinch it together so that it creates more drag. Look forward to hearing what you find.

    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #1896808

    Heres something you may have overlooked, did you grease the shaft that the gear is on, sounds like a dumb question but if you did and used a thicker grease especially it will keep the gear from poping up. Its just too stiff and adhesive for the gear to slide up and down, If you greased it clean it all off and try that. I ran into that before and now just use a light oil at most to keep wear down to a minimum.

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