EVER SLEEP IN A POP UP SHELTER?

The title has been posted here before, I tried replying to it twice but it wouldn’t take; here it is https://www.in-depthoutdoors.com/community/forums/topic/ever-sleep-in-a-pop-up-shelter/

Hello, I want to thank everyone who wrote in the thread above. I found it on google search when I was researching information about winter camping and when I saw these pop up ice hubs/shelters/houses I then researched every type of pop up I could find including watching all the YouTube videos. The otter in my video is the winner. I also love the Martín gas heater and I got a CO2 detector! Thanks again, you all ROCK!

https://youtu.be/KVSJuiOhZi0

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That’s definitely winter camping in style. One of the first winter overnights I did involved laying a tarp over the top of a brush pile. Come to think of it, most of the winter overnights I’ve done has involved a tarp for the shelter.

Cool…I mean really cool.

That does look like fun! Although I would need another heater for the outhouse!

tegg wrote:

That’s definitely winter camping in style. One of the first winter overnights I did involved laying a tarp over the top of a brush pile. Come to think of it, most of the winter overnights I’ve done has involved a tarp for the shelter.

that’s amazing! Your back must be made of steal. Koodo my friend for touching it out!

Char cusack wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>tegg wrote:</div>
That’s definitely winter camping in style. One of the first winter overnights I did involved laying a tarp over the top of a brush pile. Come to think of it, most of the winter overnights I’ve done has involved a tarp for the shelter.

that’s amazing! Your back must be made of steal. Koodo my friend for touching it out!

For the style of camping we did I found a ground pad on snow is far more comfortable than a similar pad on bare ground (summer or winter). The single most comfortable night’s sleep I’ve had camping was on top of deep snow near Bellingham, Wa. I did learn the hard way of having under inflated thermarests on the ground during winter. Chilly and uncomfortable. A cot would be the way to go but hard to carry everything in a backpack hence the style of going with ground pads, bivy sacs and tarps.

tegg wrote:

I did learn the hard way of having under inflated thermarests on the ground during winter. Chilly and uncomfortable. A cot would be the way to go but hard to carry everything in a backpack hence the style of going with ground pads, bivy sacs and tarps.

x2 My solution has been two pads. Bottom one is the closed cell foam like a ridge rest. Top one is my thermarest. Now I don’t get cold from below anymore

Yes. If the sleeping bag is rated for -0 temps it shouldn’t be an issue. A cot and a stocking cap will seal the deal.

I built a sled floor for my clam thermal and hauled with an ATV. Very comfortable accommodations.

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Thanks for all the replies and tips. I finally have day two posted. Sory it’s a bit long, it was our play day. The clincher is near the end, life saving! Good funny bits from Dave and also a great review from him about the 1000, his first time on it.
I also gave a good plug for this forum as well, your all awesome!

https://youtu.be/lw89BLXARvc

You all Rock!

Brian Klawitter wrote:

That does look like fun! Although I would need another heater for the outhouse!

ya, that would have been perfect!

castle-rock-clown wrote:

Cool…I mean really cool.

thank you!

patk wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>tegg wrote:</div>
I did learn the hard way of having under inflated thermarests on the ground during winter. Chilly and uncomfortable. A cot would be the way to go but hard to carry everything in a backpack hence the style of going with ground pads, bivy sacs and tarps.

x2 My solution has been two pads. Bottom one is the closed cell foam like a ridge rest. Top one is my thermarest. Now I don’t get cold from below anymore

I’ll keep my eye out for some nice thermalrest pads. I know the yoga mat has worked as an insulator.

Bass Thumb wrote:

Yes. If the sleeping bag is rated for -0 temps it shouldn’t be an issue. A cot and a stocking cap will seal the deal.

yup, the caps are great and our first time on the cot, it wasn’t too bad. I was afraid of anything falling off the foot of the cot at night that it may catch fire in front of the heater. I had it all set up at home with the cots and the heater to ensure nothing would catch fire. If I where to do it again, or if a great deal come up on the larger otter I’d would go for a bigger pop up with those Large cots.

castle-rock-clown wrote:

I built a sled floor for my clam thermal and hauled with an ATV. Very comfortable accommodations.

That’s the way to go! Great invention my friend!

Ha! I found it. This might be a winter set up when you’re 20 yrs old and have no money. If I recall we went in on skis in the dark until we ran into a blow down section and lost the trail. Did an impromptu camp and this was the result.

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I have slept in my uninsulated Otter flipover on Saganaga a couple of times. You are allowed to drive a sled up the “corridor”. But anywhere off of it you have to walk.

I sled as close to a place to camp as possible. Then I pull the otter to an island, and then fish out In the open.
Use a light cot and a double sleeping bag system to keep warm.
I have a 20# propane tank and heater/cooker to use when needed.

Not the Hilton but plenty fine for a couple nights.

Char cusack wrote:

I know the yoga mat has worked as an insulator.

Basically the same thing as the Ridgerest aka closed cell foam. Blocks moisture too, win, win all the way around. When not sleeping, put it under your feet. Buddy taught me that and I didn’t even have to learn the hard way

When we were younger, we would lay out a sheet of plastic or tarp, then our pads and sleep right under the stars. Not the most comfortable thing in the world with the morning frost, but it worked well!

404 ERROR wrote:

When we were younger, we would lay out a sheet of plastic or tarp, then our pads and sleep right under the stars. Not the most comfortable thing in the world with the morning frost, but it worked well!

Thanks for sharing that, those where the good old days!

I Can’t remember sleeping outside during the cooler days or nights. I have no fear of it now…. older and wiser.

Just spent two nights in mine on Bay De Noc with a buddy. Worked out great even with it being -22 at night. I used 1/2″ foam anti fatigue squares from harbor freight on the floor and it did great. You got a little bit of water by the heater but other than that hardly any water from the ice melting. Brought a Deep Cell battery and a inverter to run my tv and antenna and we were able to watch all the football games that weekend plus charge electronics.

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Nice set up there!

nightstalker60 wrote:

Just spent two nights in mine on Bay De Noc with a buddy. Worked out great even with it being -22 at night. I used 1/2″ foam anti fatigue squares from harbor freight on the floor and it did great. You got a little bit of water by the heater but other than that hardly any water from the ice melting. Brought a Deep Cell battery and a inverter to run my tv and antenna and we were able to watch all the football games that weekend plus charge electronics.

Holly! That’s just too crazy awesome! And I bet you had no interruptions watching those games! I love your set up too.

I just finished a review, but more it’s a safty tip, did you take a carbon monoxide detector?

https://youtu.be/aUduRPWTzMs

That’s a good video, Char. Keep them coming. I asked this question on youtube, but here it is again. Which model/size Otter hub are you using and is the flooring system reflectix over rubber squares?

Al Case wrote:

That’s a good video, Char. Keep them coming. I asked this question on youtube, but here it is again. Which model/size Otter hub are you using and is the flooring system reflectix over rubber squares? Tarp reflectix then rubber. There are better one piece mats at the hardware store if you got a way to transport it.

hello, thanks for watching, I answered your you tube and copy pasted to answer in both locations.

Yes, the floor, the otter xth pro lodge thermal tech 4-5 person hub/pop up shelter has an inside foot print 8×8. I will be putting togeather a video about the floor specifically. I have enough footage. I used simple cheep blue tarp first then I used the Canadian version of reflectix, then those spunge snap togeather squares. There is footage of this near the end of day 3 and in day 1 and in lost footage of day one. It can take awhile to get threw all 4 videos. Thank god for the fast forward/scrubbing option. In day three I talk a bit about how slippery it is and that we nailed threw one corner and once the cots where down it was okay. I did not have enough of the puzzle spunge for the whole floor. Stay tuned I will be collecting all the footage that talks about the floor.

When I was at the hard ware store there was some nice spunge type mats. It’s just how was I to pack it on 2 quads with no trailer. I did find a bag that worked for me for the blue tarp and the reflectix. The spunge squares was dispersed on the quads front and back racks.

Even with the new buddy heaters which are indoor safe and have a low oxygen censor, you should still always have a carbon monoxide detector. If i am not sleeping in the shack i don’t typically bring it, but if your sleeping absolutely have one! Its a cheap insurance policy. Mine went off in the middle of the night. Not sure if the buddy heaters don’t burn as clean when the tank gets low but once I changed tanks everything was fine.

Al Case wrote:

That’s a good video, Char. Keep them coming. I asked this question on youtube, but here it is again. Which model/size Otter hub are you using and is the flooring system reflectix over rubber squares?

Hi again, thank you, I finally got the floor video done! It’s a good thing you where asking about it as I needed to get it aired out and modified for the next ATV trip. Enjoy.
https://youtu.be/_afvz5gaQac

nightstalker60 wrote:

Even with the new buddy heaters which are indoor safe and have a low oxygen censor, you should still always have a carbon monoxide detector. If i am not sleeping in the shack i don’t typically bring it, but if your sleeping absolutely have one! Its a cheap insurance policy. Mine went off in the middle of the night. Not sure if the buddy heaters don’t burn as clean when the tank gets low but once I changed tanks everything was fine.

Oh good, I’m glad you do take one along. I noticed there are air vents under the heaters. In my videos, I noticed the base was sitting on that silver insulation, it’s to soft. The Next trip I’ll be brining some pvc pipe and a hard surface for the heater to sit on. The pipe will be placed under the otter directly behind the heater so it will have direct air intake. I’ll be mounting the detector to the Center hub on the ceiling of the otter with Velcro. Yes, changing tanks good plan. I’m thinking there just isn’t enough pressure to burn correctly when getting to the bottom of the tanks. I Realy want some gauges for our tanks. Thanks!