Who is using a Humminbird 1197??

Curious to know who has the Humbird 1197 and your thoughts? How is the clarity for the river?

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Curious to know who has the Humbird 1197 and your thoughts? How is the clarity for the river?

Thanks

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The 1197 just became available this year.I know 2 people with them on already and the Minnkota test people have been here this winter with one on their boat.One of the forementioned guys just switched from the large Lowrance.I have heard no complaints and my 997 has served me very well.The larger screen on the 1197 is now on my “wish list”.

whats the difference between the 1157 and 1197? besides a couple hundred bucks

The 1197 has side-imaging. The 1157 does not.

I am curious to hear some feedback on them as well. I’m not going to get the 1197, but I have been thinking about adding a 997 to my boat. I have heard that these units won’t interfere with my Lowrance units. Is there truth to that?

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I am curious to hear some feedback on them as well. I’m not going to get the 1197, but I have been thinking about adding a 997 to my boat. I have heard that these units won’t interfere with my Lowrance units. Is there truth to that?

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Most lowrance transducer run 200K if you can find a transducer more than 50K or so difference than they should not interfer, I think some bird run as high as 400+K in some modes, not sure about all modes or transducers though.

I have an 1157 on it’s way for my bow/stern and an 1197 for my console on this year’s tournament boat. I have run big screen Lowrance units since they came out and made the switch for 2008 as I am sold on the Humminbird technology and the investment they are making for the future. I will be rigging them on my boat in ~ 3 weeks so and then out to open water so I will report back on my results.

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I have heard that these units won’t interfere with my Lowrance units. Is there truth to that?

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I ran a 797c2-SI unit in my last boat, side by side with a Lowrance x25c. They do interfere with each other.

The ‘birds use a variety of frequencies for their imaging: 83 kHz, 200 kHz, 455 kHz, 800 kHz. The higher frequencies are for the side imaging, and the 200 and 83 are for down. Because Lowrance and the ‘birds share the 200 kHz frequency, they interfere with each other.

Does that make either unit unusable? No, not in the least. It does add some clutter to the traditional “down looking” sonar displays. However, because the side imaging uses frequencies that are substantially different from the Lowrance, you won’t see any impact of the Lowrance on the side imaging pictures.

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I have heard that these units won’t interfere with my Lowrance units. Is there truth to that?

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I ran a 797c2-SI unit in my last boat, side by side with a Lowrance x25c. They do interfere with each other.

The ‘birds use a variety of frequencies for their imaging: 83 kHz, 200 kHz, 455 kHz, 800 kHz. The higher frequencies are for the side imaging, and the 200 and 83 are for down. Because Lowrance and the ‘birds share the 200 kHz frequency, they interfere with each other.

Does that make either unit unusable? No, not in the least. It does add some clutter to the traditional “down looking” sonar displays. However, because the side imaging uses frequencies that are substantially different from the Lowrance, you won’t see any impact of the Lowrance on the side imaging pictures.

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Jason, When you used the Humminbird on “standard” sonar (200/83), were you able to select ONLY 83 khz so it would not interfere with the Lowrance at 200khz?

Wade, I never dug far enough into the manual to figure out if I could select specific frequencies for use. I know that several ‘bird users have a pair of transducers, one for dedicated high-speed (down only) use and the other for SI use. Someone with more time looking at one of those units will have to tell us if a guy can select specific frequencies for use. Based on my limited background in electronics, my gut tells me you can’t…..but maybe you can.

As I said above, the interference wasn’t enough to dramatically affect the use of either unit. It would be similar to jigging next to another boat that had its locator running….an occasional extra vertical line here and there. Both would still mark structure and fish, just a little extra clutter.

In all honesty, when I was concentrating on the SI view, I wasn’t as concerned with the lowrance down view. Likewise, if I was only worried about what I was driving over, I would turn the ‘bird off.

Jason, You should be able to select either frequency. All the SI units feature the dual beam plus sonar system which allows you to select 83khz or 200khz. I was wondering if you had tried it. That should take care of any interference issues.

“Selectable” Dual Beam Sonar

Units with Side Imaging also include traditional down-looking “2D” sonar.

So, for those of you running Lowrance units at 200khz, these Humminbirds should allow you to avoid sonar interference with your Lowrance.

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Wade, I never dug far enough into the manual to figure out if I could select specific frequencies for use. I know that several ‘bird users have a pair of transducers, one for dedicated high-speed (down only) use and the other for SI use.

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I think when it is all said and done I am going to be one of the ‘bird users that runs 2 pucks. We are going to try just the one SI puck to begin with but we are keeping an open mind.

As for the 1197, I had some time to play with one the other day and I don’t see the worth of the added cost over the 997. Yes the screen is bigger, but it is no wider and that is where you use the SI the most. For the extra money, I couldn’t justify the unit, but boy are they BIG and fun to look at

Thanks for your thoughts. I ordered my 1197 today for the deck and leaving my LMS unit where it is.

Off topic a bit but…When you’re using the display in SI mode in say 2′ to 3′ waves, does the image remain pretty clean or is it up and down with the wave action? If so, doesn’t it get really hard to read? Seems to me that it would be all clutter but I haven’t tried one yet. Thanks, Adam

I run an Eagle 680 on the bow and my Bird 797cSI on the transom on Crestliner 182TS. I have never really had an isuue with interference unless I get into 50 feet of water or more then it`s almost neglagable.

Wades right I can run either the 84kh or 200kh or combine and run both.

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…When you’re using the display in SI mode in say 2′ to 3′ waves, does the image remain pretty clean or is it up and down with the wave action?

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If the boating is really rocking from side to side in my experience it dosen`t really blur the image it more distorts it. What ever the SI is reading is still there just not correctly shaped or depth. Like a regular sonar when it`s bouncing around in big waves the bottom is in constant motion. Bow to stern waves really dosen`t effect it much.

Thanks Tom, so is a side to side wave action comparable to trying to view an underwater camera in the same conditions?

With sonar on my Lowrance it’s pretty much a real time image in the cone but that’s basically 2D. Seems like it would be a super fast processor on the bird to read a “3d” image in real time with any kind of wave action. I’m a Lowrance big screen guy and love them but the new big screen SI hummingbird has my intrest level up. Thanks again, Adam