Favorite spinner/live bait rig components?

  • bradg
    Posts: 507
    #1235583

    So……

    TO all of you out there that tie your own spinners, or lindy rigs, what are your favorite components?

    1. What is your favorite line to use for spinners and/or lindy rigs? (size, brand) and why

    2. For both single hook and double hook setups, what is your first choice for hooks? (brand, size, type)

    3. When you tie a spinner, what is you favorite blade to use? (Colorado, Indiana, etc..) and what size of blade do you find yourself using the most frequently?

    4. is there a certain length that you consitently find your self using, or is it more dependant on the conditions on the water that you encounter?

    WAT
    AUSTIN MN Cass Lake
    Posts: 130
    #597186

    1 8lb.Vanish 2size 6 Matzuo sickle 3 colorado size 3 or 4 5mm beads4 6-8 foot leaders.

    gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #597207

    Lindy rigging:

    6lb xl line

    Hooks:

    #8 for leeches

    #6 for crawlers

    #2 or bigger for chubs/minnows

    Sometimes, pending on the body of water, I like to put on a bead. Colored hooks: Still can’t state if they catch more fish or not, but I like the confidence behind them so I use them.

    Common colors for hooks/beads on lindy rigs: red, chartruese, green, orange, glow, and blue

    Line length:

    sand flats, mud flats, running a crawler/leech: Typically go 12′. May go shorter if the water is muddy, as short as 6 feet for “drifting” purposes.

    I prefer not to drift any faster than 1mph when lindy rigging. Honestly, 1/2mph to 3/4mph is perfect in my book. The whole point of lindy rigging is to present a “natural appearance”……..Not “drag the bait”. You want the lindy rig to sit in front of the fish and let the “LIVELY” bait do its thing. Point to be made is “LIVELY”. If it ain’t lively, it isn’t doing anything, like NOT tempting the fish to bite!

    Pending location and time of the year, snells can get as short as 18″. If you are fishing a tight breakline and need to keep your bait “on the spot”, a 12′ lead isn’t going to help you. Same thing when fishing timber. So, again water clarity, type of structure and the elements within that structure determine leader length.

    Some folks prefer a “Roach Rig” over a Lindy Rig. Difference is that a roach rig does NOT incorporate a swivel. What is used to stop the sinker from sliding to the hook is a bobber stop and bead.

    Truth be told, that swivel really doesn’t do a whole lot in “spinning” to stop the line from twisting. What it primarily does is create a “stop-gap” between the snell and main line to prevent the twisting of the main line. With that said, I use a swivel and a little tiny one at that.

    I also don’t use cross-lock snaps. I tie both lines direct to the swivel. Te cross lock can get tangled up at times with the line twist of the snell if you are “stopping and going” a lot on your drift.

    gary_wellman
    South Metro
    Posts: 6057
    #597209

    Spinner rigs:
    Generally 10lb XT
    I might go heavier, up to 14 or even 17, purely for line “stiffness” if I’m fishing rock reefs, where both line fraying is a concern as well as keeping the spinner rig fairly “stout”, so it isn’t “waving” all over the place, dragging rocks or even falling between the rocks and not in the fish zone.

    Hook sizes: Same theory as lindy rig hooks.

    Leader length.
    General rule of thumb is 6′ in my book. Most of my spinner rigs are pre-tied at 6′. I can shorten if needed, if fishing rocks or timber.
    Fishing open water or clear water (Mille Lacs is a good example, those spinner rigs might stretch out to 10 or even 12′, if the fish want it that way. (NOTE: IF the fish want it that way) If you are fishing sand or mud flats and the fish seem to prefer a longer leader because the sinker is spooking them, then give the fish what they want.
    At other times, a bottom bouncer or even the bell sinker “banging” bottom is what the fish demand. (No different than a crank digging the bottom). So, a bottom bouncer and 3-4 foot spinner rig can be more deadly than a 10′ spinner rig.
    (Give the fish what they are asking for, not what you want to force feed them).

    Bead/blade size depend on the mood of the fish. Also time of the year, for “text-book” eye fishing. Typically 3,4, & 5mm beads. Sometimes on average 5 beads are enough, but other times, if you want to beef up the presentation, go with 10 beads and mix up the color pattern a bit.

    Typically 1-5 size blades in both Colorado and Indiana. I mostly prefer Colorado as a “go to”, because I like the thump they give and that blade also make the bait “wiggle” more in the water. However, don’t be hesitant on the Indiana blade. Lots of flash there!!! More flash than a Colorado. I doubt I’ll use a #5 blade on opener and I doubt I’ll use a #1 blade in August. You still have to match the hatch to a degree.

    My opinion of the more important factor in running spinner rigs is this: If you are running a longer spinner rig, know how deep it is going to run from your sinker.
    Typically, a spinner rig is going to drop “1 foot for every 5 feet of line” on a typical 1.5mph run.
    So, if you are running an 8′ spinner rig, with a bottom bouncer, you just might be dragging that spinner rig.
    If you are pulling a 10′ spinner rig with a 1′ dropper sinker on a 3-way and are only keeping the dropper 1′ off the bottom, again, you probably are dragging that spinner. OR that spinner is about 2″ from the bottom and the active fish are hanging out 1-2 feet off the bottom to “feed”. You are running your bait underneath them. I’m not saying you won’t catch fish, but you are not helping yourself, if the fish don’t want it that way.

    IF the fish are spooky (seem spooky anyways) of that dropper on the 3-way. Then hook the bell sinker direct to the line via an x-large quick change clevis. On a 10′ spinner rig, run that sinker 3-4 feet off the bottom! The sinker is high and out of the way, not spooking the fish.

    ivanbrehmer
    Johnston, Iowa
    Posts: 89
    #597219

    Gary, well said post! I love rigging, but like everything else, it has to be what they want!

    bradg
    Posts: 507
    #597925

    any one else like to share your favorite setups???

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