My observations of the MarCum LX-5 and the VS-560

  • olbaidhh
    Cottage Grove, MN
    Posts: 6
    #1233859

    Bit the BIG bullet and got both the MarCum LX-5 and the VS-560 for myself for c-mas, and I finally got to use them this weekend. I did a LOT of research (part of my real job) and from what I have learned these units seemed to fit my needs best.

    I have read the manuals on-line at the MarCum site and since forgotten most of the info. I have been way too busy to even take either unit out of the box until we got the sleeper setup on Milac’s…. big mistake, here is why and my observations.

    LX-5:

    Liked the unit overall, seemed to work well but I could not get any of the advanced features to work right over the LX-3 because my LX-5 came packaged with an LX-3 manual!

    So I was not sure if the SFL was setup right and if I was using the 8 or 20 degree cone. etc… I think I worked it right but big disappointment there. The display was nice the unit itself nice. I liked the arm feature and the power indicator, the cover, all accept the cord.

    The rubber that the cord comes wrapped in was almost “loose” around the wires, hard to explain but it looks as if someone stretched it at the factory. I don’t think it had any affect on the readings but you never know. Made me wonder though… I guess I would have to see it next to another to make sure mine is good. Either way I have the bad feeling that it may not be, and for $500 dollars a unit you don’t want that feeling.

    Battery seems good, I used the unit for over 8 hours and I still have a 90% reading.

    Overall, 10 being completely satisfied and 0 being pissed off. I’d give it a 5 maybe an 8 or 9 if I had the right manual, and did not have a bad cord. Terrible quality control in my opinion. Maybe I will do another review after I print off the on-line manual.

    VS-560

    This unit was FUN! It worked pretty well everything was there this time, manual etc… I actually enjoyed it and I thought it worked better than expected for what it is designed to do.

    The things I did not like were in the design. The cord wrap is just ok and I am not sure there is much more you can do other than the way it is setup. The pouch worked ok. I thought long and hard about better ways to wrap and hold the cord and I think this is the best it can get.

    The monitor adjustment location SUCKS it is almost impossible to get at I think they could have maybe moved it to a better place. This is really the only thing I did not like on the unit itself.

    The other thing I did not like was the remote control. Either I have a bad one or it just stinks. My particular one did not work unless you were right next to the unit (inches away) close enough not to bother with the remote anyway. It may be a bad battery I will check that but once again if I am spending that kind of $$$ $550 I would expect a decent battery in the remote. You also had to push the buttons so hard you thought they were going to break to get it to work. Fine inside the fish house but outside with gloves the remote would be useless, and that’s where I want to use it most.

    The depth, temp and direction worked well if you calibrated it right. Once in a while the direction was off but I knew it anyway based on the lures. I just eventually turned it off. Had to turn the cord and adjust it once in a while but it worked as most people out here have said pretty decent with some tweaking.

    The camera when it pans makes a TON of noise, I think enough to spook fish. I took the unit out of the water and used the pan and it is LOUD. Clicky and mechanical sounding.

    Also the unit battery indicator might be bad. At 2 different times the battery status light blinked and said low battery. I pressed the indicator and it said 70%. The other time it said 60%. Yet another time I pressed the indicator just out of the blue and it said 30% pressed it again about and hour later and it said 60% ???

    So I might have a bad indicator, once again that bad feeling of is it working right or not?

    Overall, 10 being completely satisfied and 0 being pissed off. I’d give it a 7. Maybe an 8 if I did not have issues with the remote and battery indicator, and I am not sure if other units are that loud when panning.

    birddog
    Mn.
    Posts: 1957
    #410441

    Thanks for the review …I was thinking about getting these units. I have also heard about the noise coming from the 560. It’s always nice to see an honest review from someone other than a sponsored.

    BIRDDOG

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #410442

    http://www.marcumtech.com/cs/manuals/LX5OwnersManual.pdf

    When you first turn the unit on the transduser is at 20 degrees. Hit the NDT button and a LED will display showing you are using it in the 8 degree mode.

    Hit the SFL button and a LED will display showing you are in the super fine mode. This is automatic in the zoom mode. This weekend was the first I played with the LX-5 and found it to be an outstanding unit.

    Welcome to IDA

    Bret

    Calvin Svihel
    Moderator
    Northwest Metro, MN
    Posts: 3862
    #410443

    Quote:


    http://www.marcumtech.com/cs/manuals/LX5OwnersManual.pdf

    When you first turn the unit on the transduser is at 20 degrees. Hit the NDT button and a LED will display showing you are using it in the 8 degree mode.

    Hit the SFL button and a LED will display showing you are in the super fine mode. This is automatic in the zoom mode. This weekend was the first I played with the LX-5 and found it to be an outstanding unit.

    Bret


    NBT not the NDT!!!! Just a bit of clarification….
    Thanks for the info on where to find the manuals…

    olbaidhh
    Cottage Grove, MN
    Posts: 6
    #410450

    I re-read the manual for the LX-5 and found I was using it correctly for the Zoom and SFL as well as the cone degree.

    To be fair if I had known that and it was packaged with the right manual my satisfaction would have been 8 or 9 out of 10. I really like the unit now that I know I was using it right and not just guessing.

    My fishing partners both have and fl-8 and it seemed to be much better then their units. I know at least one will be getting a LX-5 and selling his fl-8.

    Now I possibly need a new transducer cord for it and the right manual.

    Anyones VS 560 loud? how about your remote?

    bret_clark
    Sparta, WI
    Posts: 9362
    #410452

    Like I said, had it out for the first time Give me time and I will get it right Thanks for the correction Calvin

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #410456

    olbaidhh, call MarCum Customer Service if you have a concern about your cord. It was not stretched on assembly, so you may have a bad cord. However, if it is working correctly you probably have nothing to worry about.

    NBT (Narrow Beam Trasducer) will have a little light next to it lit up when it is on. If the light is on you are using the Narrow Beam 8 degree transducer.

    I have used the 560 for almost two years and believe me, it does not scare the fish. The noise is minimal when the unit is placed in the water. Put it down the hole and select PAN, you will be able to see fish come right up to it and look directly into the lens. I have had lots of walleye in the whole at the same time while the camera is panning, it NEVER scares them. However, the noise from the camera should not be clicking or clunking. If that is happening something is wrong.

    As for the remote, they need to be in direct line. It has to be that way because of sun. Try facing the unit straight on, if the remote does not work you need a new battery or new remote. Either way, if you have any issues call MarCum customer service at (763) 493-3748 they will get you taken care of. Thanks for sharing your opinions

    olbaidhh
    Cottage Grove, MN
    Posts: 6
    #410463

    Scott…any guesses on my battery issues on the 560? And it clicks and clunks big time when it gets to the end of each pan, not just a soft pan type noise like in the middle of the pan.

    Are the units tested before shipping?

    TJB
    Cottage Grove, MN.
    Posts: 290
    #410481

    Your are right the LX-5 is the BOMB!

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #410484

    Not sure about the battery issue. Mine never fluctuates, although I rarely look at it. As a side note..if you are running the 560 in your sleeper house and have power, you can plug the charger in. The use rate on pan is higher then the charge so it will still drain the battery over an entire weekend but it will last the entire time.

    Your clicking is just at the end of the Pan before the camera changes direction? That makes much more sense. Does it make noise as it is panning?

    olbaidhh
    Cottage Grove, MN
    Posts: 6
    #410488

    I can run the 560 and charge it at the same time is what your saying?

    The clicks are just at the end of each pan and very loud…very…sounds like its slipping a gear and the pan noise is really minimal but you can hear it.

    cade-laufenberg
    Winona,MN/La Crosse, WI
    Posts: 3667
    #410560

    what would you guys suggest? should i get a aqua view scout for 199.99 or a marcum Vs-350 for 219? Im more interested in the aqua view, especially for the shade thing that goes on it.

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #410656

    Cade, of course I am going to suggest MarCum but this is why. With the 350 you get a 7 inch viewable monitor versus a 5 I believe on the scout. Also you get a high end Sony camera with the MarCum unit. The majority of the price of the 350 is that high end sony camera and it is a far better camera than what is in the scout. The picture quality is very good on that unit.

    Neither unit will give you great night viewing because of the lighting systems, but if you are looking for a unit that will fit most needs, I would get the MarCum 350.

    mike_j
    Nashua Iowa
    Posts: 754
    #410829

    Scott what unit is the best for night veiwing, and I would assume that it would also be great for daytime use. Any info would be graet.

    olbaidhh
    Cottage Grove, MN
    Posts: 6
    #410999

    I have been getting a few emails and PM’s because some people think I am bashing MarCum…. far from it!

    I spent the $1000 on the MarCums because I did the research and I bought what I though was the best product available at the time.

    I could have easily bought a FL18 Pro Pack (second choice) or an Auqaview.

    But I do research for a living and pitting one product against another and weighing out the pluses and minuses to find the best fit based on as much criteria as possible is what I am trained for.

    Yes I had some problems but I still think that I will be satisfied with the units. So far I am satisfied with the customer support.

    Chris at MarCum has been a great help and it sounds as though my issues will be addressed. Hopefully.

    Would I buy these units again? … yes. Would I have bought anything else if I though it was better or if something comes out next year that blows it away made by someone else… you bet.

    I want the best for my hard earned $$$.

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #411047

    Sauger, the best unit for night veiwing is the OVS 460 or 560. Their lighting system, while not perfect is MUCH better than anything on the market. Because the light are separate from the camera they work more like the low beams on your car on a foggy day.

    Typical lighting illuminates the suspended particles in front of the camera thus not allowing you to see. Similar to using high beam in fog.

    As I said earlier, the MarCum OVS 460 & 560’s lighting systems are by far better than anything on the market. They are not perfect yet, but MUCH better.

    When I ran sleepers I used to turn on the 560 at night at it was amazing to see the eyes on a walleye light up. That is the first thing you would see was glowing eyes coming at you, then the fish would show as it got closer to the camera. Oh yeah, the lights don’t scare fish either.

    If you have fish down there and flip the lights on, you may scare them. But, even walleye will come check out the lights if you have them on already.

    olbaidhh, good to hear MarCum service is getting your issues taken care of. Keep us posted on how things go. I am sure after a few more times you will really have that LX-5 figured out. Don’t be affraid to adjust the gain and experiment with the narrow beam transducer (NBT). You will need to turn up the gain when using the NBT

    mike_j
    Nashua Iowa
    Posts: 754
    #411134

    Thanks for the info Scott. I do a lot of ice fishing at night, so if I am going to by a unit I want to be able to get some use out of it at night. I will definitly check out these 2 units.

    wade_kuehl
    Northwest Iowa
    Posts: 6167
    #501462

    I was searching for some more information on MarCum units and found this old thread. It has some worthwhile information so I thought I’d bring it back to the top.

    For those of you not aware, Jolly Ann Marine has the LX-5 and the VS 560 available now (thus my research on the product). I hope to get a chance to get out an use one this winter so I can share my own impressions, but for now we have nothing but soft water. If everything I’ve been hearing over the past year is correct, I should be VERY pleased.

    Those of you who have had a chance to use the MarCum LX-5, are you pleased with it?

    TSCTSC
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 499
    #501639

    Great review!! Thanks for the honest and straight forward report. It is of great help to me!!

    Dave Koonce
    Moderator
    Prairie du Chien Wi.
    Posts: 6946
    #501666

    Thanks for digging this old post up..it was great to read !!

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