What tiller to go with?

  • henny
    Prescott, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1355641

    In need of new tiller. mud motor don’t cut it for fishing and I want to keep hours off it so it lasts longer. I was looking at a f60 or Johnson e60. I run a 18′ 6″ gatortrax that has a 280lb mud motor that is around 54hp now. Boat weights around 800. Question is would a 60 idle down to troll with on mod-v that don’t draft much? Or should I go with a 50hp?

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13310
    #1395972

    Hard to say if the 60 would troll down far enough on that boat. My guess is that it would be pretty close. You can get the 60 with a VTS button on it that will troll your RPMS down even farther. Being in a river good chance you will get down to under 2mph up river. On a lake I would guess between 2 to 3mph. Pretty easy to push against the bow mount or trolling bag to drop down lower.

    walleyenordy
    Cottage Grove, MN
    Posts: 502
    #1395987

    Mikes got a point. I think I would play it safe and go with Yamaha 50. Good motor (my opinion)

    stuart
    Mn.
    Posts: 3682
    #1395993

    I have a 60 Yammaha on a 18ft.G3 and it will troll down to 1.6 when in flat calm water.The VTS is a sweet feature.

    henny
    Prescott, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1396003

    Yamaha the best option for trolling down ? Biggest factor would be for trolling cranks on river. I have built in tank that’s only 7gal. I might have to add a tank have plenty of room. Mud motor I could run from bay city to maiden rock and back over half tank burned.

    henny
    Prescott, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1396005

    That’s sounds good to me! is it easy on fuel?

    Jeff Matura
    Sumner, IA
    Posts: 238
    #1396012

    My first choice would be a yamaha. And my second and third choice would also be a yamaha. 50hp or 60hp. Probably 60 if fishing with three people a lot.

    And since a tiller throw some splash guards on it and speed will never be an issue. I mean back trolling…

    wannaplay
    Posts: 149
    #1396019

    I use a drift sock, to get under 2. it is a little harder to get up on plane when the sock is deployed…

    henny
    Prescott, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1396029

    Most likely 2-3 people. Boat has a hunt deck so not sure if it wound back troll and with no keel (flat as a pancake and smooth as glass) . So it doesn’t track good windy days suck.

    henny
    Prescott, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1396030

    Pic is same rig as mine without cat walk and tank built in back.

    Jeff Matura
    Sumner, IA
    Posts: 238
    #1396037

    Can you still get short shaft outboards? That boat looks like a short transom. I would just get another boat and trailer.

    henny
    Prescott, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1396052

    No I had tall transom added since I had mud motor from previous boat. 20″

    stuart
    Mn.
    Posts: 3682
    #1396054

    Quote:


    Yamaha the best option for trolling down ? Biggest factor would be for trolling cranks on river. I have built in tank that’s only 7gal. I might have to add a tank have plenty of room. Mud motor I could run from bay city to maiden rock and back over half tank burned.


    My 60 absolutely sips gas.

    JOSH192
    50 min from the river
    Posts: 125
    #1396068

    Hey henny how’s the fishing been? I’ve got the 2013 yammy 60 on my 98 alumarcraft mag 165 little heavier boat than yours and a deep v configuration with the vts system on the current on the miss right now I was getting down to 1.4 with just me in it that was pretty impressive for me and I get 30 at full speed . I put 6 gallons of gas in it and have been down 5 times and ran all the way down to the ice once and still have enough for one more trip yet I’m sure.

    henny
    Prescott, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1396084

    Thanks for the input! I’ll go with the f60 I think. bay city sent me a email on prices.
    Fishing has been good. Was down Wednesday with friend and he kept his limit. Threw back some nice sauger and walleye night bite dragging/pitching

    flatfish
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2105
    #1396140

    Quote:


    My first choice would be a yamaha. And my second and third choice would also be a yamaha. 50hp or 60hp. Probably 60 if fishing with three people a lot.

    And since a tiller throw some splash guards on it and speed will never be an issue. I mean back trolling…


    This is right on advice. That sock will anchor the bow tighter than stink on a skunk . Trim up the big motor a bit, prop is way less efficient, n back troll.

    hunter1723
    Posts: 349
    #1396203

    I have the similar set up and I would put a yamaha on it for first choice as well. Wait that is what I did. If I had to do it all over again? I would put another Yamaha on it. I have told people before about horsepower. Find that rating plate that you have and whatever it says put that on it. Underpowering a boat is like going to the strip club. The girl who is rated an 8 and costs less might get the job done, but the girl who is a 10 and makes you loaf in your pants and costs double is twice the ride!!!!!!!!!

    henny
    Prescott, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1396206

    Commercial hull no hp rating.

    hunter1723
    Posts: 349
    #1396307

    Then do the coast guard hull rating formula to see what you can put on it. I guarantee you they will if you don’t . And when they do you can bet your fine won’t make you look like this anymore . Probably more like this .

    henny
    Prescott, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1396344

    I don’t have to worry it’s called common sense. Why would I put a huge motor on boat and make it worthless for fishing…… 18.5×70/15 = 86.3333 is too much for fishing

    Zach H
    Posts: 374
    #1396427

    Quote:


    I don’t have to worry it’s called common sense. Why would I put a huge motor on boat and make it worthless for fishing…… 18.5×70/15 = 86.3333 is too much for fishing


    Didn’t slow this guy down. I am not even sure if this is legal. I have a feeling he will be holding onto this boat for awhile. Oversized Idea

    henny
    Prescott, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1396528

    That’s nuts! Kinda like the bass boats that go over 90….. been in a 21′ basscat that did 82 not for me.

    henny
    Prescott, WI
    Posts: 121
    #1396799

    So I finally got a email back from gatortrax the recreational hull version of my boat is 60hp so I’m good with the f60 witch is nice.

    whofan
    Posts: 30
    #1405024

    If you have a Honda dealer in your neighborhood add Honda to your shopping list.
    Great motors as well.

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