Emissions Law

  • Brad Dimond
    Posts: 1580
    #2320330

    Flanagan is definitely not someone I’d like as a Senator but she’d win against Royce White. Walz will win again if the GOP puts another clown on the ballot against him. Both parties need to step up their game and give us some candidates who don’t cater to the fringe activists.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18962
    #2320344

    Flanagan is definitely not someone I’d like as a Senator but she’d win against Royce White. Walz will win again if the GOP puts another clown on the ballot against him. Both parties need to step up their game and give us some candidates who don’t cater to the fringe activists.

    waytogo

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22873
    #2320358

    Is Scott Jensen considered a clown ? He lost 52-44 % last go round.

    Brad Dimond
    Posts: 1580
    #2320361

    Politically he’s a clown. Don’t know him personally, may be a nice guy and good neighbor.

    Sylvanboat
    Posts: 1044
    #2320382

    Trump may gut the EPA. In Minnesota loses a lot of federal funding, it will be interesting to see where these state initiatives go?

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 24514
    #2320384

    Is Scott Jensen considered a clown ? He lost 52-44 % last go round.

    I think if he were to run again things would be different. Last time was in the height of Covid and they were coming after him with both barrels blazing and brought him before the medical board multiple times because he is a practicing doctor and they said he was spreading misinformation about covid and its treatment. People have the receipts about how all that played out. I dont think he will run again, but I think he would do MUCH better after all that AND all the fraud uncovered under Walz.

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 5021
    #2320400

    The republicans have a very weak bench in Minnesota. I don’t see anyone who can beat any of the democratic candidates. It’s unfortunate but that’s kinda the state of things.

    stout93
    Becker MN
    Posts: 1019
    #2320415

    The republicans have a very weak bench in Minnesota. I don’t see anyone who can beat any of the democratic candidates. It’s unfortunate but that’s kinda the state of things.

    Astonishing….especially after Walz just called half the country and half of MN citizens a bunch of Nazis…

    Also, I wonder why he’s denying the election results now?

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22873
    #2320419

    To think Walz is not a clown… is foolish at this point. jester

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 5021
    #2320423

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Matt Moen wrote:</div>
    The republicans have a very weak bench in Minnesota. I don’t see anyone who can beat any of the democratic candidates. It’s unfortunate but that’s kinda the state of things.

    Astonishing….especially after Walz just called half the country and half of MN citizens a bunch of Nazis…

    Also, I wonder why he’s denying the election results now?

    I live in the district who voted in Ellison and now continues to elect Ilhan Omar. Nothing politically surprises me in this state.

    dirtywater
    Posts: 1769
    #2320426

    Is Scott Jensen considered a clown ? He lost 52-44 % last go round.

    His running mate was most definitely a clown.

    At this point in MN politics is just gonna be blue clown vs red clown and the red clown isn’t gonna win a statewide election any time soon. That’s the reality of our state. Until the MN GOP starts to distance itself from Trump, this is reality. Remember Trump made pretty significant gains in most states this last election, but stayed pretty flat in MN. There were a couple 13-14 “blue” states that trump improved in from 20-24 and Minnesota was near the bottom of those states. In States like Massachusetts and NY, which are dem strongholds, he had like 8-10% increases and only 2 or 3% here.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 12379
    #2320431

    Is Scott Jensen considered a clown ? He lost 52-44 % last go round.

    I don’t know about clown, but he was a one issue (Covid) candidate, who was terrible at debates and was not a very influential congressman prior to running. He’s from my area, and seemingly a very nice guy, but he is not a politician. I mean look how bad Walz looked against someone far more competent.

    Until the MN GOP starts to distance itself from Trump, this is reality. Remember Trump made pretty significant gains in most states this last election, but stayed pretty flat in MN

    I realize your hatred for the Orange Man has skewed your grasp of reality, but Trump did historically well in MN in spite of running against a sitting MN Governor on the opposing ticket. Which also meant he didn’t campaign here this time. Only republicans to gain a higher share of MN votes was W Bush in 2004, and Reagan in 84.

    EW6
    Posts: 164
    #2320438

    …our fearless leader…There was no debate, no vote, he just did it.

    Sounds like someone I know coffee

    pass0047
    Pool4
    Posts: 510
    #2320440

    Maybe the Republicans put up a candidate for governor who isn’t an election denier and anti-abortion rights they may have a chance. As bad of choice as Kamala was for president.

    Then we won’t have to complain about Tim.

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 5021
    #2320441

    Maybe the Republicans put up a candidate for governor who isn’t an election denier and anti-abortion rights they may have a chance. As bad of choice as Kamala was for president.

    Then we won’t have to complain about Tim.

    Like I said, the bench strength is abysmal for republicans.

    I don’t see any scenario where a republican wins the senate or governor’s seat. Twin Cities skews so far left it’s almost impossible to overcome unless something seismic happens.

    I don’t want this thread to get ugly but if you look at politics in Minneapolis it tells you all you need to know. Omar has done nothing for most constituents but can’t be beaten. The city council is a mess but extreme leftists continue to get voted in. I was hopeful when the defund the police movement was soundly beaten but that seems to be an aberration.

    Even my moderately democratic friends don’t get it. Ilhan soundly defeated Don Samuel’s in the past. That tells you what you need to know.

    dirtywater
    Posts: 1769
    #2320442

    I realize your hatred for the Orange Man has skewed your grasp of reality, but Trump did historically well in MN in spite of running against a sitting MN Governor on the opposing ticket. Which also meant he didn’t campaign here this time. Only republicans to gain a higher share of MN votes was W Bush in 2004, and Reagan in 84.

    my statement was factual. At a time when trump was gaining 11% in east coast dem stronghold states, he gained only 3% here. He won 47%. Not changing my opinion that any candidate who closely associates themselves with trump is destined to lose in a statewide general in this state.

    And yeah, sure, I think he’s the biggest clown of them all, but that’s really not what I’m arguing — why bother, I know I’m outnumbered here. I’m making an argument — based in fact — about the makeup of the MN electorate. As much as folks would like to discount Ramsey and Hennepin counties as not representative of the state, they remain crucial to victory.

    Full draw
    Posts: 1431
    #2320444

    I don’t think Trump has anything to do with how the majority of MN voters vote.
    MN voted for Jimmy Carter in the 1980 election.
    That tells me everything I need to know about where it stands with the majority of MN voters.

    The majority of MN voters like high taxes. If they didn’t they would change the way they vote.

    Keep in mind no Democrat is really a Republican. However some republicans are really democrats.

    grubson
    Harris, Somewhere in VNP
    Posts: 1834
    #2320446

    Sounds like someone I know <img
    [/quote]

    Oh we voted for that.

    EW6
    Posts: 164
    #2320448

    Sounds like someone I know <img

    Oh we voted for that.
    [/quote]

    Oh we voted for Timmy

    grubson
    Harris, Somewhere in VNP
    Posts: 1834
    #2320449

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>grubson wrote:</div>
    Sounds like someone I know <img

    Oh we voted for that.

    Oh we voted for Timmy
    [/quote]

    Obviously

    grubson
    Harris, Somewhere in VNP
    Posts: 1834
    #2320450

    The difference is, we voted for exactly what we’re seeing.
    You voted blindly for a color.

    Umy
    South Metro
    Posts: 2084
    #2320451

    Amen Werm.
    Tampon Timmy won because of the abortion issue. His opponent opposed it entirely. Plain and Simple.
    The Gov and Lieutenant Gov need to GO!!!!!!!
    The emissions law is just a fraction of his Loonie Left leaning.
    IF the GOP can put someone competent against him they stand a good chance of winning. He failed MISERABLY on the national stage and MN is more purple than blue now. And the …est sister from Somalia is potentially in some trouble here now. Our “sanctuary” leaders in office in both cities could cost us hundreds of millions of dollars and when they arrest the first governor or mayor w obstruction things will change fast.
    With a real “common sense” leader in place with likeminded administrators some of the crazy crap will go the way of the dinosaur – legally.
    It will be fun to watch this transition to “normalcy” and see the end result.

    Matt Moen
    South Minneapolis
    Posts: 5021
    #2320453

    Amen Werm.
    Tampon Timmy won because of the abortion issue. His opponent opposed it entirely. Plain and Simple.
    The Gov and Lieutenant Gov need to GO!!!!!!!
    The emissions law is just a fraction of his Loonie Left leaning.
    IF the GOP can put someone competent against him they stand a good chance of winning. He failed MISERABLY on the national stage and MN is more purple than blue now. And the …est sister from Somalia is potentially in some trouble here now. Our “sanctuary” leaders in office in both cities could cost us hundreds of millions of dollars and when they arrest the first governor or mayor w obstruction things will change fast.
    With a real “common sense” leader in place with likeminded administrators some of the crazy crap will go the way of the dinosaur – legally.
    It will be fun to watch this transition to “normalcy” and see the end result.

    What gives you confidence the Minnesota republican leadership will change? They have continually dropped the ball and misread what voters care for.

    Remember 2012 when republicans decided to try and get a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage? That was the impetus for the democrats having the trifecta.

    I have very little faith the republicans can get a coherent strategy together and challenge Walz or win a senate seat.

    stout93
    Becker MN
    Posts: 1019
    #2320532

    Anyone catch the presser that Walz had a few days ago?

    Seems like the MN press might be starting to hold him accountable finally.

    He atrociously fumbled his way through answering a question about how he recently just said that the country was being stolen by a bunch of Nazis and Fascists..

    Sounds like an election denier to me….what a buffoon..

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18962
    #2320546

    Anyone catch the presser that Walz had a few days ago?

    Seems like the MN press might be starting to hold him accountable finally.

    He atrociously fumbled his way through answering a question about how he recently just said that the country was being stolen by a bunch of Nazis and Fascists..

    Sounds like an election denier to me….what a buffoon..

    And to think he was almost vp with someone less qualified than him. Very scary thought that jolts me to attention still when I think about it.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 12379
    #2320599

    my statement was factual.

    No, it was not. Trump gained 3%, in a state he didn’t campaign in, with the sitting Governor on the opposing ticket. 3% is not flat. And 47% of the vote is historically good for a Republican in MN, 3rd best in the last 50 years. Saying that because he didn’t gain 11% like elsewhere, ignores facts, and is your opinion. Which you are entitled too, even if it is factually incorrect.

    What gives you confidence the Minnesota republican leadership will change? They have continually dropped the ball and misread what voters care for.

    Nothing gives me that confidence Matt, I totally agree with you. However, the optimism for me is that the MN Republican party is weak and poorly run enough, that an outsider could come in and win. Like John Kriesel, who left politics largely due to the idiocy on the gay marriage issue.

    Reef W
    Posts: 3146
    #2320601

    in a state he didn’t campaign in

    St Cloud rally in July and Lincoln Reagan dinner in May don’t count for some reason?

    Umy
    South Metro
    Posts: 2084
    #2320603

    dirtywater wrote:
    my statement was factual.

    No, it was not. Trump gained 3%, in a state he didn’t campaign in, with the sitting Governor on the opposing ticket. 3% is not flat. And 47% of the vote is historically good for a Republican in MN, 3rd best in the last 50 years. Saying that because he didn’t gain 11% like elsewhere, ignores facts, and is your opinion. Which you are entitled too, even if it is factually incorrect.

    Matt Moen wrote:
    What gives you confidence the Minnesota republican leadership will change? They have continually dropped the ball and misread what voters care for.

    Nothing gives me that confidence Matt, I totally agree with you. However, the optimism for me is that the MN Republican party is weak and poorly run enough, that an outsider could come in and win. Like John Kriesel, who left politics largely due to the idiocy on the gay marriage issue.

    Correct again Bigwerm – Trump made a huge gain in this state ( historically speaking) and I think it shows a turn of sentiment toward a less “liberal” mindset for this state. Couple that with the fact that Walz is a buffoon and cannot articulate a coherent sentence, the overwhelming pace of accomplishments the rest of the country is seeing now and getting the privilege to see the actual poop show that has been democratic leadership in this country, the goofball Newsome and his appointees are only shining the spotlight on democrat incompetence in terms of far left policies ( there is another recall in the works for him right now – (I believe Mel Gibson is a part of ?! ) the Governor of Maine getting her ass handed to her at the dinner the other night( she WILL lose the lawsuit Trump invited her to MY HUMBLE OPINION) and the fact that this country stood up on November 6 and said “NO” to Harris and Walz gives me hope that the people are as sick of the woke culture as I am.
    Right or wrong – the thought of Harris leading this country was incomprehensible and that life as we now have the chance to live it would have been a nightmare ( in my HUMBLE opinion) I am HOPEFUL that we can get someone in the middle who can step up and say “enough” to the LOONS in this state.
    My god, look at what DOGE has been uncovering – how can anyone support that and yet democrats are screaming ( literally – Jasmine Crockett from Texas – I think she may be dumber than AOC but it’s close) at the top of their lungs that Trump is killing our democracy…….?!
    ALL OF THIS AND more gives me hope – at least hope is better than resignation.

    Apologies if I hijacked your thread and misinterpreted your comments intent Werm.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 12379
    #2320604

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
    in a state he didn’t campaign in

    St Cloud rally in July and Lincoln Reagan dinner in May don’t count for some reason?

    I guess I will spell it out for you and DW moving forward, Trump didn’t campaign here ONCE Walz, the sitting MN Governor, was on the opposing ticket. So yes, that is a fact and Trump not campaigning here in August, September, or October likely impacted the result he got. Really didn’t think this was debatable.

    Reef W
    Posts: 3146
    #2320615

    Ah ok, I agree that’s a fact if you arbitrarily qualify what you said to ignore most of his campaign. I’m sure there were a lot of voters fired up by Walz being governor here that would have been swayed by another Trump visit jester

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