Electric Fence

  • meestro
    Posts: 136
    #1547344

    I plan to get my first hunting dog, likely a GSP.

    I live on a lake and don’t want to put up a fence due to aesthetics.

    Can someone recommend an alternative to keep the puppy and eventual dog in the yard?

    I have a good 3 acres to cover.

    Thanks in advance

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3710
    #1547349

    Training, training, training.

    meestro
    Posts: 136
    #1547350

    Thanks for the tip but I am not interested in relying solely on that.

    My last dog got ran over by a truck, I live on a dead end road and the truck was driving 5-10 MPH. That damn dog didn’t listen to a word I said and was just a puppy still trying to learn.

    So I ask, are there any recommendations for electric fences or the like?

    bassn7
    Bruce,WI
    Posts: 776
    #1547353

    A friend of mine had a containment system that had a radio sender unit and as long as the dog stayed close enough it was good to go if it left the area it got shocked ,I don’t know the name of it though google it maybe ?
    Stan wave

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1547356

    I have had PetSafe brand wireless perimeter fence for at least 10 years. It works great and be set up to 90′ radios from the transmitter. I have two transmitters one at each end of the house/garage with gives my dog about 260′ X 90′. I would not recommend the wired type. I have had several friends and family that had these and they were nothing but a PITA.

    hop307
    Northern Todd County
    Posts: 609
    #1547389

    I have had PetSafe brand wireless perimeter fence for at least 10 years. It works great and be set up to 90′ radios from the transmitter. I have two transmitters one at each end of the house/garage with gives my dog about 260′ X 90′. I would not recommend the wired type. I have had several friends and family that had these and they were nothing but a PITA.

    I have a similar set up to make sure my lab stays in the yard.
    Even with the wireless set up you still need to train your dog to respect the boundary and know what to do when he hits that boundary.

    Sharon
    Moderator
    SE Metro
    Posts: 5443
    #1547659

    I have a GSP who is about to turn 2 in June. It was recommended to us that we avoid using an electric fence if we plan to use a shock collar for hunting. When hunting, the shock is given with a command for the dog to follow. Eventually, the shock becomes less necessary as the dog learns to obey commands without the shock. With an electric fence, there’s a shock, but no command for the dog to follow. Using both may decrease the effectiveness of one or the other. I agree that training is every important – especially with GSPs! When we adopted Fritz, we would walk with him along the edges of our property so he could learn the boundaries. GSPs love to run, so perhaps a decorative fence would be effective but not an obstruction to the lakefront view.

    jerry b
    western WI
    Posts: 1506
    #1547688

    Time and miles is the only way to train a pup. Whether it’s hunting, socializing or boundry respect, ya gotta work with’m wave jerr

    Huntindave
    Shell Rock Iowa
    Posts: 3082
    #1547695

    Thanks for the tip but I am not interested in relying solely on that.

    My last dog got ran over by a truck, I live on a dead end road and the truck was driving 5-10 MPH.

    That damn dog didn’t listen to a word I said

    and was just a puppy still trying to learn.

    So I ask, are there any recommendations for electric fences or the like?

    Sounds like a case can be made for some education for you as well as the dog. Any puppy can be trained to stay out of the road. It will take dedication, time and repetition. If you are not ready to make that commitment, you might want to reconsider owning a dog.

    fishinfreaks
    Rogers, MN
    Posts: 1154
    #1547720

    We got an Innotek underground fence. It was a DIY project. Super easy. We rented a little trencher from the local hardware store that has an attachment for burying wire. It took me about an hour to do the backyard of our 1/2 acre lot. We have a lot of clay, so it took me a lot longer than a non-clay yard. It’s been great with our GSP. I also use an e-collar, and I’ve seen no confusion from the dog.

    All that being said, if you haven’t found a litter yet, we’ve got a litter of GSP’s coming July 13ish. Nice bloodlines on both sides. This is an intentional breeding. Pups should be ready to go home around August 31. Shoot me a PM if you want to talk pups.

    meestro
    Posts: 136
    #1548224

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>meestro wrote:</div>
    Thanks for the tip but I am not interested in relying solely on that.

    My last dog got ran over by a truck, I live on a dead end road and the truck was driving 5-10 MPH.

    That damn dog didn’t listen to a word I said

    and was just a puppy still trying to learn.

    So I ask, are there any recommendations for electric fences or the like?

    Sounds like a case can be made for some education for you as well as the dog. Any puppy can be trained to stay out of the road. It will take dedication, time and repetition. If you are not ready to make that commitment, you might want to reconsider owning a dog.

    Thanks for the tip.
    No really, thanks.
    Appreciate it
    Can I pm you for a lesson?

    Time and repetition required? Are you suggesting the puppy doesn’t learn after the first redirection?

    Mocha
    Park Rapids
    Posts: 1452
    #1548259

    I have a GSP who is about to turn 2 in June. It was recommended to us that we avoid using an electric fence if we plan to use a shock collar for hunting. When hunting, the shock is given with a command for the dog to follow. Eventually, the shock becomes less necessary as the dog learns to obey commands without the shock. With an electric fence, there’s a shock, but no command for the dog to follow. Using both may decrease the effectiveness of one or the other. I agree that training is every important – especially with GSPs! When we adopted Fritz, we would walk with him along the edges of our property so he could learn the boundaries. GSPs love to run, so perhaps a decorative fence would be effective but not an obstruction to the lakefront view.

    In response to yours Sharon. I heard the same advise from some and don’t worry about it with others as long as you train train train. The perimeter collar beeps when getting close to the boundary limit and if the dog keeps going it will shock the dog until the dog is back in the permitted area. My training/shock collar also has a tone/beep only mode. As I work my dog 99% of the time all she needs is the tone/beep mode when in the field hunting. It seems like the perimeter collar actually helped in my situation. I trained, trained, trained my dog without any collars first and then introduced both collars once she understood all the basic commands and then it was train train train when introducing each collar. Worked well for me.

    sktrwx2200
    Posts: 727
    #1548268

    You can train everyday for years, but is that going to keep FIDO, with years of breeding instincts to scent and chase, from chasing something JUST THAT ONE TIME out of the yard and into the street?

    I would never want my dogs to get a negative action (shock) for doing what I want them to do (scent) or for doing what they were bred to do (hunt).

    In My opinion I would suggest a standard fence for hunting dogs and a hunting E collar or beeper collar when outside the fence for training or hunting.

    House dogs or farm dogs, the PETSAFE E fence is a great option.

    Ralph Wiggum
    Maple Grove, MN
    Posts: 11764
    #1548544

    One major advantage of a traditional fence is that it will protect your dog from other dogs (or other animals), too.

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2578
    #1548545

    I had the same experience as Mocha. Self-installed Petsafe worked great.

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