Early Spring Rainy Trip

  • lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5745
    #1751656

    Thinking about doing a early spring trip to Rainy River for some walleyes. Was thinking end of March or early April. I’ve never been up there. I know you need to wait and see about the break up and flow after ice off, but otherwise just looking for some basic tips to point me in the right direction. I have a 18ft Crestliner with 115hp and bow mount trolling motor.

    So… just any info ranging from where to stay, where to launch, river navigation (hazards, ect), time of year, or tactics would be appreciated!

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13292
    #1751665

    last few springs have been good up there. With the cold weather hanging in this year Im starting to wonder how its going to shape up. Still to early to tell.

    James has at least a show or two on spring fishing up there. Chris Granrud and Im sure many others do also. Lots of info.

    Think the old clementson resort website is still around showing landings. When it gets going anyplace with a open room is the place to stay. Jigs, stickbaits, blade baits, Rippin raps. Bring it all.

    TMF89
    Posts: 338
    #1751758

    Mike, not sure if this is the same map you were thinking of, but it’s the one that we used when we were learning the ropes up there.

    http://sportsmanslodges.com/files/2413/9925/7940/Rainy_River_Access_Map1.pdf

    The vast majority of the guys (self included) stay at one of the resorts at the mouth of the river, where it dumps into Lake of the Woods (also known as Four Mile Bay and The Gap). There are a bunch of them all in a row there, and it’s nice because you can dock the boat at their slips overnight, instead of having to trailer every day. Having said that, if I was primarily interested in walleye, I would probably stay somewhere in Baudette or further upriver (most of the better walleye fishing seems to be up river, especially for larger fish). My group is mainly focused on sturgeon, so we stay down by the Gap. You’ll certainly catch walleyes there, but the whole reason the fishing is so good is because they’re migrating upriver.

    Most guys will fish as far as Birchdale, which is about 30-40 miles upriver from The Gap. You can fish several accesses between the two, but IME Wheeler’s Point (the access at the Gap) and Birchdale are the two nicest, so we tend to go there. If you check out the IDO episodes on Rainy, they’ll explain pretty much everything you need to know regarding how to catch sturgeon and walleye, so I won’t talk too much about that (it’s a lot more entertaining watching James catch fish anyway!) Jigs, minnows, and plastics will have you covered for walleye, and a 3/0-5/0 Octopus/Circle hook and a 3-5oz No Roll sinker will have you covered for sturgeon. If you guys do chase sturgeon, PLEASE respect the fish, net them or learn how to tail them properly, and DON’T hold them vertically by the gills. A lot of those fish are older than we are, and deserve our respect.

    The only real issue the weather can pose is when “The Forks” break. Those are the two main tributaries to Rainy, and after they melt enough to let loose, the river turns into chocolate milk for about a week or so. Doesn’t hurt the sturgeon fishing too terribly, but it can really shut down the walleye bite. The only real ways to combat it are to book an early trip in late March and deal with the cold (and driving to landings every day, since the river melts upstream first), or book in April and hope you hit it right. In fact if you watch one of James’ last episodes, he makes a point to mention that they had to reschedule the trip a week later, due to the Forks. If you have the bad luck of hitting it shortly after they let loose, typically the best bet is to fish as far upriver as possible, because that’s the stretch that will clear first.

    I do have buddies who fish past Birchdale towards Rainy Lake, but they only target sturgeon, I don’t know much about that stretch of the river, other than it’s not very popular among anglers. I will say spring trips to the Rainy are probably my favorite fishing trip of the year, and all this typing has gotten me pretty excited, if you couldn’t tell!

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    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5745
    #1751966

    Thanks guys! Awesome pics and info!

    This has gotten me pointed in the right direction…. but still not sure if I should plan a long weekend and put it on the calendar or wait to see how Spring unfolds. I have little kids at home and so do my buddies so it’s kinda hard to do things last minute.

    How do you guys do it? Plan a weekend with an alternate?

    nhamm
    Inactive
    Robbinsdale
    Posts: 7348
    #1751990

    Ask for forgiveness and not permission. Calendar really frees up after that’s established.

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13292
    #1752003

    We just plan for the time off. If it works out for the rainy fantastic. If not Ill go fish somewhere else. Not a chance Im giving back my time off.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1752015

    Ask for forgiveness and not permission. Calendar really frees up after that’s established.

    Agreed.

    Depending on conditions, there are really 2 different bites.

    1. Ice off. Or as the ice is going off. Fishing the clear water as the ice ice is going off can be excellent. I’ve followed the icebergs down river a few times with good success.

    2. Spawn. It rarely happens, but getting up there as late as possible to get as close to the spawn as possible. You’re looking for 42-48 degrees. The fish go bonkers. The problem is that the water temp rarely ever reaches 40 degrees before April 14th. I can think of one time in the last 10 years. Last year was very very close.

    Those are the primary conditions for good fishing. Neither of those are guaranteed on any given year. And one can happen without the other.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11500
    #1752027

    How do you guys do it? Plan a weekend with an alternate?

    We always planned on going the last full weekend and it usually works out. Since it closes on April 14th, which is a Saturday this year, I’d be looking at the 7th/8th weekend or fishing Sturgeon on Sunday and going 14th/15th. (sorry in advance if my dates are wrong, just going off memory). Jason Mitchell and Chris Granrud just posted their Rainy River episode from last year with lots of good info, but spoiler alert I wouldn’t get a hotel in IFalls for any reason.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1752028

    but spoiler alert I wouldn’t get a hotel in IFalls for any reason.

    Why? It’s cheaper.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11500
    #1752032

    Why? It’s cheaper

    What are you paying in IFalls? I wouldn’t go that way bc it’s significantly further from Vidas which is where we usually launch, and only comparable distance to Birchdale if you stay on Wheeler’s Point. And after 12+ hours in a boat, dinner and bed are priorities 1 & 2.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1752057

    Maybe for you… Saving $40+ a night makes it a very viable option.

    A little explanation goes a long way. You make it sound like it’s not an option.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11500
    #1752086

    Saving $40+ a night makes it a very viable option.
    A little explanation goes a long way. You make it sound like it’s not an option.

    It’s an option just not a good one, there are plenty of places a lot closer in Baudette and imo they are all pretty affordable. I’ve never paid more than $50/night, so I’m not sure where you are staying for $10/night in IFalls…

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1752121

    I’ve never paid more than $50/night,

    At wheelers point the resorts charge per person. Sounds like a better deal than it really is.

    I’ve never paid more than $50/night in Falls.

    Walleye inn is $90 night, Americinn I’m afraid to look. Baudette motel is a good deal but books really fast.

    Where are you staying in Baudette for $50/night?

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11500
    #1752270

    I’ve never paid more than $50/night in Falls.

    Where are you staying? I just looked quick online and there is not one place in IFalls that is under $59/night, with most over $100/night in April. And the IFalls Americinn for the RainyDaze Run (which is what I was referring to originally) is $450 for the weekend.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1752433

    Gotta wheel and deal with the ifalls hotels a few weeks ahead of time. It must have gone up then. They were $60-70/night regular when I stayed there last.

    Where are you staying in baudette for <$50 night?

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    curleytail
    Posts: 674
    #1753181

    Sorry to jump in on this thread also.

    How hard is it to get lodging on short notice? For you guys that hurry and go when the time is right, how hard is finding a place to stay? Looking at coning up on a Wednesday or Thursday and heading home Sunday morning.

    grizzly
    nebraska
    Posts: 949
    #1753183

    weekends are very busy

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #1753184

    Sorry to jump in on this thread also.

    How hard is it to get lodging on short notice? For you guys that hurry and go when the time is right, how hard is finding a place to stay? Looking at coning up on a Wednesday or Thursday and heading home Sunday morning.

    When there are 3 or more ramps open you are going to struggle to find a place to stay on short notice. I was able to snag the last room at the walleye inn in Baudette last year on short notice. It was a king bed with a hot tub. Luckily it was my wife staying with me. peace

    I remember calling ifalls and they were booked as well. You might have luck calling the bigger lodges on wheelers point and pick up a cheap lodge room, but no guarantee.

    Carl S
    Posts: 60
    #1754234

    Is it correct that you don’t need a RABC this year if you don’t anchor or land on the Canadian side? Just have a Canadian license?

    Catfish_Nuggets
    NULL
    Posts: 33
    #1754421

    I am curious to hear if this has changed this year (RABC = Remote Access Border Crossing) as it would be a nice time saver to not have to visit our Canadian friends. They seem too be very friendly or very grouchy with nothing in between!

    arcticm1000
    New Richmond, WI
    Posts: 740
    #1754434

    There was some discussion of the RABC changes in the post from a couple of weeks ago.

    The post I am trying to link to is in the General Discussion Forum and the title is:
    Question for James

    question for James

    gizmoguy
    Crystal,MN
    Posts: 756
    #1758838

    Is it correct that you don’t need a RABC this year if you don’t anchor or land on the Canadian side? Just have a Canadian license?

    I called and asked the Canadian border post. They said yes that’s true but you also can’t talk to anybody in another boat. This is hard to do in bumper boats. Their suggestion was still get one to be safe. Which I did.

    pool2fool
    Inactive
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 1709
    #1758862

    They said yes that’s true but you also can’t talk to anybody in another boat.

    That has got to be the most Canadian thing ever rotflol

    Joe
    Posts: 9
    #1758994

    What does a Ontario nonresident fishing license cost??

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13292
    #1759007

    lots of prices and options on that license.

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3718
    #1759009

    I called and asked the Canadian border post. They said yes that’s true but you also can’t talk to anybody in another boat. This is hard to do in bumper boats. Their suggestion was still get one to be safe. Which I did.
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    Can’t talk? First I heard of this part of the law. Apparently there is no free speech law in Canadian waters.:?:

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5745
    #1760746

    When drifting, do you guys use drift socks? Or doesn’t that really work with current? Don’t have much river experience thanks

    Francis K
    Champlin, MN
    Posts: 828
    #1760752

    No drift sock. Using your trolling motor, you want to be the same speed as the current allowing your jig to be as vertical as possible assuming you are vertical jigging.

    Don’t forget about dragging up and down stream with plastics. I think you get better quality fish this way. Also, no drift sock.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5745
    #1761679

    OK, thanks. We ended up booking a room at Sportsmans first full weekend in April. A little further drive to Vidas or Birchdale but will give us the option of keeping the boat at a slip and fishing down that way for sturgeon maybe too. Getting pumped now!

    I’m sure it will be a learning curve…. and just learning the layout of everything. But just watched James and Pat’s 2017 Rainy episode so that is getting me stoked too!

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