Duty to Retreat fails to pass

I’d call this one a win. (update-not a win )

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/duty-to-retreat-self-defense-house-of-representatives-state-legislature-minnesota-law/89-aa6a4b56-6005-426b-84bd-f6d538447324

Im lost on how thats a win? Granted I would never step in on a third party situation but come on.

Not a win. Double negatives make it confusing.

They use really stupid stats from Florida for there reason. Teenager’s shooting other teenager’s in the ages of 15-19. You can’t make this stuff up

“Minnesota has what’s commonly known as a “castle doctrine” provision, which allows a person to use force without retreating first if they are under threat within their own home.”

Since this is in place, why would there be a need for the bill that failed? People with a CC permit need to be pretty darned discerning about situations they may put themselves in so they aren’t faced with a case where they may need to use the gun.

I don’t have the permit so I don’t have to fret over this when I’m out and about.

Good to know Jimmy !!

Jimmy Jones wrote:

Since this is in place, why would there be a need for the bill that failed? People with a CC permit need to be pretty darned discerning about situations they may put themselves in so they aren’t faced with a case where they may need to use the gun.

I don’t have the permit so I don’t have to fret over this when I’m out and about.

I bet she put herself in this situation obviously.

https://www.fox9.com/video/1445044

Jimmy Jones wrote:

Since this is in place, why would there be a need for the bill that failed? People with a CC permit need to be pretty darned discerning about situations they may put themselves in so they aren’t faced with a case where they may need to use the gun.

I think the bill focused on duty to retreat “outside the home.”

Maybe I’m wrong though. It is confusing.

Im against any further restrictions for self defense. We have plenty of laws around its actions. We don’t need more. I think this one is aimed squarely at defending the perps. It wreaks of liberal mindset.

suzuki wrote:

Im against any further restrictions for self defense. We have plenty of laws around its actions. We don’t need more.

This was a bill to remove the duty to retreat.

I bet she put herself in this situation

Sad when they don’t feel safe in their own homes and communities. Especially at the u of m.

If you were a by standard it would be hard not to help her.

suzuki wrote:

Im against any further restrictions for self defense. We have plenty of laws around its actions. We don’t need more. I think this one is aimed squarely at defending the perps. It wreaks of liberal mindset.

I think you need to read it again

Youbetcha wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>suzuki wrote:</div>
Im against any further restrictions for self defense. We have plenty of laws around its actions. We don’t need more.

This was a bill to remove the duty to retreat.

My mistake. What a pussy law.

Youbetcha wrote:

I bet she put herself in this situation obviously.

https://www.fox9.com/video/1445044

That’s actually a great video to demonstrate when you could or couldn’t retreat.

She clearly couldn’t while being attacked in the beginning.

She clearly could while chasing after them and pounding on their car.

That’s actually a great video to demonstrate when you could or couldn’t retreat.

She clearly couldn’t while being attacked in the beginning.

She clearly could while chasing after them and pounding on their car.
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Correct. But it seems our laws would value the criminals life before her belongings. Sadly that’s how it goes. I would hate to be put in the spot of defending 1s self, because how we value criminals in this state. Even if those kids are caught they would get a slap on the wrist and be back to violently attacking innocent people a few days later.

My son goes to the U. This happened right outside his buddies house. Don’t think anyone was home. Would have been interesting to know if any of the guys in the house would have went and helped. Can’t believe she put up the fight she did.

Video was hard to watch . Props to any of you fellas raising a daughter that age in today’s world . Might be an isolated incident but damn if it doesn’t make ya feel un easy.

THis is infuriating to watch. That poor young lady. She did all the right things except maybe going back after them when they retreated and thank goodness she wasnt hurt more, but this is beyond traumatizing
70 of the 90 vehicles stolen in one WEEKEND were Kias or Hyundais?!

CaptainMusky wrote:

THis is infuriating to watch. That poor young lady. She did all the right things except maybe going back after them when they retreated and thank goodness she wasnt hurt more, but this is beyond traumatizing
70 of the 90 vehicles stolen in one WEEKEND were Kias or Hyundais?!

The kia boys are wild. You see them ripping all over half the time hanging out the windows. See it a few times a week downtown even more at our shop in Camden.

1 of 1000 reasons that the U of M is not an option for my child to go get a degree if he so chooses.

Ripjiggen wrote:

1 of 1000 reasons that the U of M is not an option for my child to go get a degree if he so chooses.

I can think of another 1000 after yours too

Youbetcha wrote:

I bet she put herself in this situation obviously.
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Off topic but NINETY vehicles stolen in Minneapolis in a weekend?? JFC