Double Cowgirls, testing the water

  • tonkaiceman
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 153
    #1570852

    Hey all I am looking into making cowgirls due to the outrageous cost of buying these days. I am wondering if there would be any interest from anybody in purchasing some of these cowgirls that I make. I have priced out quality components and have an estimate in selling the baits for $15-$16 or so a peice. I am going to make 20 to start in a few color variations.

    So would any of you muskie guys be interested in giving them a shot? Any DIY guys with a tips or tricks feel free to chime in. Any and all criticism is welcomed. Thanks everybody!

    Youbetcha
    Anoka County
    Posts: 2938
    #1570860

    I make my own bucktails and it is great. You can make anything you want and for much cheaper. I would make sure that you have a nice pair of round nose pliers to make the loops in the wire. Also make sure to shrink tube the hooks just like they do on the normal ones. It really is a blast to boat a nice ski on a lure you made waytogo

    muskie-tim
    Rush City MN
    Posts: 838
    #1570862

    2X what Carter said

    carver
    West Metro
    Posts: 611
    #1570921

    Tinsel or hair?

    tonkaiceman
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 153
    #1570922

    To start I am going with all tinsel. Double mag 10’s, brass bodies and bead components and .062 wire. All nickel finish for now.

    Dusty Gesinger
    Minnetrista, Minnesota
    Posts: 2417
    #1570939

    I would be interested in nickel white, nickel black, double or single 10, double or single 8.

    tonkaiceman
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 153
    #1570954

    I am getting black tinsel no white right now but I am open to requests. Once I get a few made up I will get the pictures up for you.

    692fisherman
    champlin mn
    Posts: 370
    #1570957

    black tinsen with orange
    with chartreuse
    silver tinsel with orange
    with chartreuse
    blue tinsel nickel/brass or even colored blades etc……..
    purple tinsel nickel/brass or colored blades etc…..

    just a couple ideas I like

    tonkaiceman
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 153
    #1570970

    692,
    Here are the tinsel colors I bought I can always get some other colors too.

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    692fisherman
    champlin mn
    Posts: 370
    #1570993

    those work for me……. im not a big bucktail guy but want to start using them more,,,( they just catch fish) so im really not picky on color…are you doing only #10? what about #12,#9,#8 ?? just wondering

    carver
    West Metro
    Posts: 611
    #1571009

    PM me when you start making some 8’s

    tonkaiceman
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 153
    #1571024

    To start just 10’s. I am just getting a feel for the process before I jump in and deversify what I can make. But I will keep everybody updated on the process!

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13651
    #1571034

    Just some advise on Quality – take it as you will

    completely wrap your cut ends of the wire. i see guys cutting corners and leaving the sharp cut end projecting out, Hooks are sharp enough, don’t need another way to a hand sliced open.

    Using over .055 wire and heavier constitues its own challenges with forming and bending. A very good forming tool can cost well over $150.+. Some guys do well with a vise, nails, and a pliers. Taking a 1/2″ plate of steel and drilling a series of holes for making a “peg” system to form around will give you more consistent results. A major pet peeve is the eye of the wire being off-center of the shaft.

    I use size D thread to secure my bucktail AND mylar. The rubber castration rings work ok for a few casts or 1 fish. But they tend to get sloppy and allow tinsel or mylar to slide around making them a POS while fishing. The better the material is secured, the better the longevity.

    Don’t get cheap on an extra bead or two between the body and clevis. Those beads work as bearings and allow the blade to spin more freely. The best quality spinners are the ones where the blade turns as soon as the line is drawn tight. I hate having to jerk the rod to get the blades to spin. I exert enough energy casting for 6 to 18 hours a day. Adding extra work to make a blade spin just sucks.

    Be careful when selling products that you don’t use registered trade names or references. You would be surprised how many manufactures scan forums every day to identify guys that are making a knock-off of their product. Make yours unique – not a copy.

    I think someone mentioned this, but shrink wrap the bottom of the shaft, split ring, and onto the hook. Makes for a better casting bucktail that doesn’t glob up in the wind.

    tonkaiceman
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 153
    #1571067

    Thanks for the input Randy! I am trying to do as much research as I can before the process to alow for the best results. Thanks for the tips I will be sure to put some of these to use!

    As far as “copying” manufacturers, I am not trying by any means to reproduce their product. I will do my best to provide my interpretation of what the cowgirl is to the musky fisherman. My only frustration with big musky fishing companies is price, but I understand that is the nature of running a buisness.

    Thanks again for your input Randy!

    tonkaiceman
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 153
    #1571608

    Got the first 5 made!

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    Youbetcha
    Anoka County
    Posts: 2938
    #1571695

    They look great waytogo now just time to really test them out and land one with the feed bag on whistling

    puddlepounder
    Cove Bay Mille Lacs lake MN
    Posts: 1814
    #1571708

    “COWGIRL” is a registered trademark, and using the name “cowgirl” for your homemade “bucktails” that you are trying to sell could get you in trouble with the owner of the trademark “cowgirl”.

    tonkaiceman
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 153
    #1571709

    They look great ” /> now just time to really test them out and land one with the feed bag on ” />

    Thanks! Just need to give them a few test casts and hopefully get a hungry mama to commit.

    “COWGIRL” is a registered trademark, and using the name “cowgirl” for your homemade “bucktails” that you are trying to sell could get you in trouble with the owner of the trademark “cowgirl”.

    Good call, I did not know that. I assumed that was the common name for them, thanks for the info.

    Check out these bucktails above!
    toast

    tonkaiceman
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 153
    #1571711

    Making skirts tonight also! On a roll!

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    692fisherman
    champlin mn
    Posts: 370
    #1571756

    ya buddy!! they look nice….. let me know when your ready to part with a few

    tonkaiceman
    Hanover, MN
    Posts: 153
    #1571982

    ya buddy!! they look nice….. let me know when your ready to part with a few

    Will do sir! Want to get some time with a few to make sure they perform correctly first. I’ll keep you filled in! toast

    Youbetcha
    Anoka County
    Posts: 2938
    #1572517

    I totally forgot to tell you that when you start using painted blades to put some sort of finish on them or sealant. I have problems with them chipping but that will happen anyway but that finish helps reduce it.

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