non forced fetching

Anybody use a non force type of forced fetching?

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Anybody use a non force type of forced fetching?

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That line could be construed as an oxymoron but I believe that I know what you mean. We have two dogs that we have put through “forced fetching”. On our first one we used a “non-forced” method. The “non force” method was simply placing the bumper in her mouth and having her hold it until we gave the command to drop. When she was 100% successful with that we then would toss a bumper a short distance while she was on a check-cord (to assure success). As she progressed we slowly lengthened the distances and changed the objects in which she was to retrieve. It was a very successful with her and it worked well with her personality.

On our male we used the more standard method of force fetching. This method if taken slowly can be very successful and really quite “non-forced”. The forced fetching as a rule gets a bad name from attempting to go too fast with it. A pro trainer said that amateurs have a huge advantage over pro trainers as the amateurs can take as long as they need and that the pros are often trying to meet a deadline.

We then have done both ways and have had success with each.If I did the attachment right it should show a picture of our male Small Munsterlander retrieving a fox.

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Anybody use a non force type of forced fetching?

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That line could be construed as an oxymoron but I believe that I know what you mean. We have two dogs that we have put through “forced fetching”. On our first one we used a “non-forced” method. The “non force” method was simply placing the bumper in her mouth and having her hold it until we gave the command to drop. When she was 100% successful with that we then would toss a bumper a short distance while she was on a check-cord (to assure success). As she progressed we slowly lengthened the distances and changed the objects in which she was to retrieve. It was a very successful with her and it worked well with her personality.

On our male we used the more standard method of force fetching. This method if taken slowly can be very successful and really quite “non-forced”. The forced fetching as a rule gets a bad name from attempting to go too fast with it. A pro trainer said that amateurs have a huge advantage over pro trainers as the amateurs can take as long as they need and that the pros are often trying to meet a deadline.

We then have done both ways and have had success with each.If I did the attachment right it should show a picture of our male Small Munsterlander retrieving a fox.

Welcome to the site CzechSM. It is not often a person sees a Munsterlander around here. A former co-worker of mine just loves that breed.

Welcome to the site CzechSM. It is not often a person sees a Munsterlander around here. A former co-worker of mine just loves that breed.

Thanks Lenny, and I perhaps am the former co-worker. I have lurked for quite a while and thought I would stick my neck out.
Steve

Thanks Lenny, and I perhaps am the former co-worker. I have lurked for quite a while and thought I would stick my neck out.
Steve

Hey Red, how are you doing? How’d the deer hunting go for you?

Hey Red, how are you doing? How’d the deer hunting go for you?

Guys, Steve is a very accomplished dog trainer. He is also the Midwest representative for the Small Munsterlander Club of North America.
Aside from that he is a very good bowhunter and a long time competition archer. When I worked with him I often sought out his advice on bowhunting. I think it is fair to say he is the best authourity on bows and bowhunting that I have met.
I hope you visit often Steve. You have a lot of knowledge to offer and can be a tremendous asset to this site.

Guys, Steve is a very accomplished dog trainer. He is also the Midwest representative for the Small Munsterlander Club of North America.
Aside from that he is a very good bowhunter and a long time competition archer. When I worked with him I often sought out his advice on bowhunting. I think it is fair to say he is the best authourity on bows and bowhunting that I have met.
I hope you visit often Steve. You have a lot of knowledge to offer and can be a tremendous asset to this site.

Gosh …… Lenny over rated me a bit but I do like to train our dogs and do a little deer hunting.

Deer hunting has taken a back seat as of late due to the Munsters. I did manage to get a couple of deer this year but most of the time we spent doing varying degrees of bird hunting. We spent a great deal of the fall in South Dakota, Kansas and Northern Wisconsin … just to keep the dogs happy.

Gosh …… Lenny over rated me a bit but I do like to train our dogs and do a little deer hunting.

Deer hunting has taken a back seat as of late due to the Munsters. I did manage to get a couple of deer this year but most of the time we spent doing varying degrees of bird hunting. We spent a great deal of the fall in South Dakota, Kansas and Northern Wisconsin … just to keep the dogs happy.

Thanks, that is the type of training I was talking about. Good point on matching the dogs personality. I have experimented with this some and it does get quick results (in some cases).

Thanks, that is the type of training I was talking about. Good point on matching the dogs personality. I have experimented with this some and it does get quick results (in some cases).

Welcome to In-Depth Outdoors CzechSM!!!

I will second what Lenny said I hope you visit often and share your knowledge on training hunting dogs

Welcome to In-Depth Outdoors CzechSM!!!

I will second what Lenny said I hope you visit often and share your knowledge on training hunting dogs