Doctors or Nurses Connection

  • mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #2081532

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>MX1825 wrote:</div>
    Beads my FW had a cancerous kidney removed on Oct. 26th. Was told the hospital stay would be 4 to 7 days after surgery. They sent her home in 48 hours after surgery. I don’t think hospitals keep people just to fill a bed for $$$ anymore with insurance companies running our Healthcare.

    My Uncle who has a terrible heart went in with serious issues on Thanksgiving, his daughter who is longtime RN said it didn’t look good, but he also didn’t have a bed at the hospital he went to.

    In the past I’ve personally been kept for observation much longer than needed, close family members and friends all same.

    Just asking questions that’s all. Insurance and health care systems are hand in hand, I’m not indicting anyone of anything but things need to be considered.

    These days it’s actually the opposite Beads. We probably kick people out faster than we should to get other people in who need care, which in turn leads to readmissions which leads to more beds being taken by people who should’ve been fixed the first time. It’s a constant game of musical beds in the hospital.

    And I don’t mean to sound like an ass here but what gave you the impression that you were observed for longer than needed? Just because you feel fine doesn’t mean you are, sometimes there are required observation periods after certain procedures that have to be met before patients can leave.

    Deuces
    Posts: 5236
    #2081538

    what gave you the impression that you were observed for longer than needed?

    No procedures, and like I said not just me either. Mostly illnesses. Have a few RNs in the family so I ran my scenarios past them. But not every RN is at a hospital so large part of my questions.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2081540

    I would really like to see that ‘math’. Approximately 30% of the population is unvaxxed (UV) and 70% is vaxxed (V). Approximately that same 30% of UV is represented in the hospitalization % and yet you come to the conclusion that the UV are 345% more likely to be hospitalized? What am I missing…?

    5.7M people in MN
    I used the actual percentage of ALL Minnesotans vaccinated which is 64%.
    3.648M V (64%)
    2.052M UV (36%)

    Lets take a hypothetical and say that 5000 (doesn’t matter what this number is) people were hospitalized in a 4 week period.
    1700 V (34%)
    3300 UV (66%)

    Of the 3.648M V, .0466% (1700) were hospitalized.
    Of the 2.052M UV, .1608% (3300) were hospitalized

    .1608% / .0466% = 345%

    If you want to use the above 70% V, it becomes 453%.

    iowa_josh
    Posts: 429
    #2081545

    Ivermectin is an antiparasitic with no use in this scenario. Even the manufacturer of the drug explicitly states there is no benefit for Covid. The few doctors who prescribe this are treating without evidence, against consensus recommendations of true experts, and are outliers in the medical field.

    By the way, the last patient I put a tracheostomy and feeding tube in tried ivermectin unsuccessfully with one of these doctors.

    It is an antiviral drug as well. You probably know that. The merck company got 368 million dollars to say that the off patent drug didn’t work. Only to develop a new drug that is $700 a dose instead of 50 cents.

    pass0047
    Pool4
    Posts: 492
    #2081548

    “My neighbors both got Covid a month or so ago. Somehow their daughter was able to get ivermectin for them and they were better in like 2 days.”
    By this logic/science blue Gaterade is the cure for covid. I got sick with covid and drank Gatorade for 3 days and was cured.
    Just because ivermectin is a dewormer doesn’t mean it can’t help but where is the science showing it does work. Western medicine is science based not antadotal.

    Sioux
    Posts: 22
    #2081549

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Sioux wrote:</div>
    Ivermectin is an antiparasitic with no use in this scenario. Even the manufacturer of the drug explicitly states there is no benefit for Covid. The few doctors who prescribe this are treating without evidence, against consensus recommendations of true experts, and are outliers in the medical field.

    By the way, the last patient I put a tracheostomy and feeding tube in tried ivermectin unsuccessfully with one of these doctors.

    It is an antiviral drug as well. You probably know that. The merck company got 368 million dollars to say that the off patent drug didn’t work. Only to develop a new drug that is $700 a dose instead of 50 cents.

    It is not an antiviral drug. In vitro studies have shown ivermectin may effect cell transporters and disrupt the ability of certain viruses(Covid not one) to infect a cell but this is only in vitro and has not been shown to be the case in real world trials.

    If ivermectin, hydroxychloraquine or vitamins worked that would be great, but when put under true clinical trial, the evidence isn’t there. Anecdotally it can look good because many people who get Covid do recover, so going by hearsay doesn’t work as those people were likely to recover regardless of what they took.

    The new drug is not a “repacked ivermectin” despite what social media says. It is a different class of medication that works via completely different mechanism.

    In almost every other aspect of medicine people come to us and trust our recommendations and yet now with Covid and only Covid is there this aspect of trying to argue medical evidence with social media hearsay. And this is not unique to message boards, it happens in icu rooms as well. It’s going to be hit or miss for most of this winter and I hope no one here has to experience this first hand.

    Michael C. Winther
    Reedsburg, WI
    Posts: 1498
    #2081570

    Drink orange juice, that will help you stay hydrated and there is actual evidence that hydration helps when you’re sick.

    The Cochrane Reviews are the gold standard in systematic reviews of existing research, weeding out the bad and assessing meaning from the good. There’s no quality research supporting ivermectin is a useful treatment for Covid.
    https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD015017.pub2/full

    the_hat
    SE Metro
    Posts: 246
    #2081576

    I will stir this pot a little.

    Let me say my wife is a nurse in a major downtown STP hospital so I consider that firsthand connection to this. Are they understaffed? Absolutely. Is she burnt out. YEP. But most of them are. Hiring is tough and slow and training is even slower. Now our situation is unique because I’m the one currently at home with kids. I actually was before this stuff started even. But before you guys roast me on that, it’s Because she held the benefits and daycare costs, well we could have an entire separate thread in that. Plus we have an older child that’s special needs and can be a challenge. So I have to do it. Let me ask the general question to healthcare people who are feeling taken advantage of and/or considering leaving field all together a quick question, do you think/know it will be better elsewhere? Another field/ profession? I have 20 years professional experience mostly as a commission sales rep of some kind in about 3 different industries. So I feel I can safely say. Guess what. It ISN’T.
    Someone at the top of the ladder is gonna get rich given the current scenario and someone along the way is getting used. Unfortunately, It’s capitalism. Now is healthcare extra corrupt. Absolutely. But that can just get overlooked by every politician as long as they get a taste and well, I digress.
    Point is, healthcare workers earn a great wage and do meaningful work. They should be proud of it. I know I’m proud of my wife.
    I think a lot of the ones leaving are at or close to retiring and the grind isn’t worth it. Changeover of sorts. Which the industry clearly wasn’t ready for.
    Nurses make a good wage. 50-60 an hour plus excellent benefits and retirement. Good cost of living increases yearly. Which lots of people don’t get. As a commissioned or base plus bonus rep we didn’t get that. Hell. You want to earn more, sell more. We didn’t even get an increase on payout percentages. But it goes with the gig.
    I’m a finance nut so I look at all this “resigning movement” going on and ask. Now what? How do you make that 500 dollar car payment and mortgage and buy 100k luxury items? Not to mention everything that goes with day to day life. I’m not of the understanding that you can just quit one career one day and start a new one the next. I think that requires school/ training and if I remember right being broke for “X” amount of time. I’ve been out for a few years now and I’m nervous to go back because I don’t want to start at the bottom again. And I have a 4 year degree from a good university plus experience. But I would like to sooner than later.

    Healthcare workers can move within the field and adjust work load unlike many others. May make a little less or drive a little further. But you still have a good job doing good work. Plus, you will always have a job.

    The VAX / Anti-VAX crap won’t ever stop. If you want it, get it if not, then don’t. The severity hopefully will eventually mutate down less and less each time.
    Hopefully there’s still some kind of country left when it isn’t the only thing the policy makers can use or an excuse.

    Thanks for the hard work to all.

    Good luck! waytogo

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8165
    #2081578

    What is the average hours these nurses/doctors/hospital staff are putting in a week?

    My wife just came off of x4 – 12 hour night shifts in a row…has a day off to sleep and flop from nights to days…then will be on x3 – 12 hour day shifts in a row. The money is great but it’s a gauntlet that she does this to herself.

    Our household has been chaos for quite some time. We’ve got a little one at home, a house build going on, and both of us working crazy hours (with hers being absurd). I wish the outsiders wouldn’t immediately question what the hospitals and staff are going through just because it may or may not fit their agendas.

    beardly
    Hastings, Mn
    Posts: 467
    #2081587

    My wife is a RN. Her hospital has been hiring for a long time with no candidates. They have always been understaffed. They are firing 2 nurses with over 10 years of experience that won’t get the vaccine. One had already got covid from work. The comments above about hospital CEO’s not caring about their staff is absolutely true.

    The quote from Gov. Waltz proves just how terrible this has been handled.

    Jake D
    Watertown, SD
    Posts: 555
    #2081593

    Nurses make a good wage. 50-60 an hour plus excellent benefits and retirement. Good cost of living increases yearly. Which lots of people don’t get. As a commissioned or base plus bonus rep we didn’t get that. Hell. You want to earn more, sell more. We didn’t even get an increase on payout percentages. But it goes with the gig.

    Good wage I will agree with. The health insurance offered has been about the worst I have ever seen given the fact they work for health care facilities, and retirement I would say is average.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18621
    #2081596

    I just pulled this of the CDC website.

    “Cases of reinfection with COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare​.​”

    That means firing those nurses is asinine since we all know vaccinated people are contracting covid regularly.

    the_hat
    SE Metro
    Posts: 246
    #2081601

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>the_hat wrote:</div>
    Nurses make a good wage. 50-60 an hour plus excellent benefits and retirement. Good cost of living increases yearly. Which lots of people don’t get. As a commissioned or base plus bonus rep we didn’t get that. Hell. You want to earn more, sell more. We didn’t even get an increase on payout percentages. But it goes with the gig.

    Good wage I will agree with. The health insurance offered has been about the worst I have ever seen given the fact they work for health care facilities, and retirement I would say is average.

    Good wage I will agree with. The health insurance offered has been about the worst I have ever seen given the fact they work for health care facilities, and retirement I would say is average.
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    Guessing that it’s a different provider than where she works then. Sorry

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2081602

    It is not an antiviral drug. In vitro studies have shown ivermectin may effect cell transporters and disrupt the ability of certain viruses(Covid not one) to infect a cell but this is only in vitro and has not been shown to be the case in real world trials.

    It should also be noted that in those in vitro studies the dosage was many times higher than the deemed safe dosage for humans presenting significant safety risks.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11632
    #2081603

    All healthcare employees deserve a ton of respect, compassion and empathy for their role in this whole thing. Since our current capacity issue is primarily a staffing issue, I would think both the Federal and State Gov’t should be using the lions share of the newly printed Covid funds to reward them for the last 20 months (talking large bonuses), incentivize people to join/rejoin the profession (hiring bonuses/increased hourly rates), and remove barriers to entry like the vaccine mandates.

    As far as Ivermectin, Hydroxychloroquine and other off label treatments there’s a ton of info out there that is beyond my paygrade for determining who’s right/wrong, but imo all options should be on the table in our current situation. Here’s some published studies on Ivermectin. http://www.covid19criticalcare.com/ivermectin-in-covid-19/

    And here’s an article with links to studies on HCQ/AZM:
    http://www.news.yahoo.com/study-shows-hydroxychloroquine-zinc-treatments-210300816.html

    For those of you in the industry, are there increased availability and treatment protocols for the stuff that we know does work, like Monoclonal Antibodies, Remdesivir etc.?

    Thanks for your work, regardless of anyone’s opinion on the politicized topics (masks, vax, IVM, HDQ etc.), you are appreciated more than you likely know or likely see, and society needs you more than ever to continuing functioning, so again THANK YOU.

    biggill
    East Bethel, MN
    Posts: 11321
    #2081604

    I just pulled this of the CDC website.

    “Cases of reinfection with COVID-19 have been reported, but remain rare​.​”

    That means firing those nurses is asinine since we all know vaccinated people are contracting covid regularly.

    Also from the CDC.

    What are the implications for public health practice?

    To reduce their likelihood for future infection, all eligible persons should be offered COVID-19 vaccine, even those with previous SARS-CoV-2 infection.

    http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e1.htm

    Evidence shows that those previously infected at least 6 months prior to vaccination have a significantly lower risk of illness from COVID than those vaccinated without prior infection. It is logical to consider a prior infection equivalent to a single dose of the vaccines. However it is not logical to consider it as an alternative for vaccination.

    A third dose of the mRNA is needed to gain high immunity and replicate the results from those with prior infection AND 2 doses of the mRNA vaccine.

    Deuces
    Posts: 5236
    #2081612

    wife just came off of x4 – 12 hour night shifts in a row…has a day off to sleep and flop from nights to days…then will be on x3 – 12 hour day shifts in a row. The money is great but it’s a gauntlet that she does this to herself.

    To give those hours context is that normal for her? Has it changed due to lack of staffing?

    Again I’m not challenging just want to clarify. Many proffesions have goofy schedules, healthcare including and growing up with my mom as an RN I took on responsibility of siblings bc of some of those hours.

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20350
    #2081613

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>buckybadger wrote:</div>
    wife just came off of x4 – 12 hour night shifts in a row…has a day off to sleep and flop from nights to days…then will be on x3 – 12 hour day shifts in a row. The money is great but it’s a gauntlet that she does this to herself.

    To give those hours context is that normal for her? Has it changed due to lack of staffing?

    Again I’m not challenging just want to clarify. Many proffesions have goofy schedules, healthcare including and growing up with my mom as an RN I took on responsibility of siblings bc of some of those hours.

    Those are my typical working hours. Besides I never get the day off between days and nights. I work all day right in to the night shifts.
    But in my case, we keep the hospitals running.

    buckybadger
    Upper Midwest
    Posts: 8165
    #2081617

    (Sorry I couldn’t quote you as IDO’s quote function still is garbage)

    To answer your questions, this was NOT normal prior to the Fall of 2020. Since that time, this has been fairly normal.

    Prior to Covid she would work x3 – 12 hour shifts + pick up one shift a week (48 total hours). Now she averages probably 5 shifts a week (60 hours), with some examples like above from the busiest weeks (70-80 hours). The latter is when she gets the call that if nobody picks up, they are closing to admissions. These calls have been coming almost daily since late September. Every place is different with infection rates, but for them the staffing and sheer number of Covid cases is hitting them hardest now.

    They have NOT lost a single nurse due to the vaccine mandates. She said nearly all are vaccinated, but a few are not and simply filled out one little exemption form. I think the media is latching onto that more than anything as most people who are on the front lines in the healthcare field want workers, and don’t care to argue about anything else. The arguing is taken up by the outsiders, uninformed, and the politicians.

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1760
    #2081640

    I have 3 nieces, one sister in law and a close coworkers wife that all work as nurses in 4 different buildings. 2 have been vaccinated only because of fear in losing their job. The others will not get vaccinated. One had quit but went back for more $$.

    They all state the same thing on shortage. Two work at a hospital in Wisconsin and say they are only using 60% of beds right now because of staffing. They also say they are treating many people that were vaccinated. This is directly from them. In addition my wife lost an uncle two weeks ago. He received his booster shot 3 days prior to dying! He was a healthy guy with no known issues coming into this.

    orve4
    Posts: 509
    #2081677

    Ive been in health care for well over a decade and the last 20 months has taken more out of me then anytime in the past decade. We have dealt with constant change and uncertainty in our job that affects the care and health of our patients. The thing that has hurt the most is the media and other people using information to fit their narratives and push their agendas. Do people get sick who are vaccinated yes not all vaccines are 100 affective. Do vaccines have side affects? yes. Either side you fall on we are still here caring for you and your family while being severely understaffed. Please be patient with us. OUR trusted coworkers have left for various including the mandates, better pay with travel agencies and just plain burnout.

    Many of us are giving up time with our families and loved ones to come in on days off or even pick up in areas we are not familiar with just so your loved one can get seen. Are we being paid well? yes is the answer but we are also getting taxed heavy with these lump sums you here about over 40% gets taken in taxes.

    Thanks for letting me vent on my lunch brake that has now ended and I am needed on the floor again. I usually come here to free my mind from these topic at works.
    Thanks and stay safe and wash your hands.

    CaptainMusky
    Posts: 22748
    #2081681

    Ive been in health care for well over a decade and the last 20 months has taken more out of me then anytime in the past decade. We have dealt with constant change and uncertainty in our job that affects the care and health of our patients. The thing that has hurt the most is the media and other people using information to fit their narratives and push their agendas. Do people get sick who are vaccinated yes not all vaccines are 100 affective. Do vaccines have side affects? yes. Either side you fall on we are still here caring for you and your family while being severely understaffed. Please be patient with us.

    Thank you to you and all the others who have worked your tail ends off through all of this. Trust me, we all appreciate everything you have done and gone through. Whenever I am in the presence of people in the field I am sure to thank them for all theyve done. The issues at hand are out of your control. Im sure youve dealt with some unpleasantries by patients etc and I get it because there is lots of frustration to go around, but it isnt fair to take it out on you.

    tindall
    Minneapolis MN
    Posts: 1104
    #2081695

    My sister in law was told today that the St. Johns ICU is officially overrun and overflowing into PACU.

    She is in the opposite position as a nurse anesthetist where this creates job cutbacks, or potentially job loss as “elective” surgeries are cancelled.

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1760
    #2081723

    Please be patient with us. OUR trusted coworkers have left for various including the mandates, better pay with travel agencies and just plain burnout.
    Thanks for letting me vent on my lunch brake that has now ended and I am needed on the floor again. I usually come here to free my mind from these topic at works.
    Thanks and stay safe and wash your hands.

    Josh, I believe everyone here is on your side. Politics and BS aside I believe every person on this site supports all medical staff and appreciate every one of ya. The concerns we see are the people above you and us in this world today. We get told one thing but see another. I am sure that is part of why this subject was posted.

    disco bobber
    Posts: 294
    #2081781

    I am in the lab at a hospital in rural ND. It has been and continues to be a challenge. The ER is busy just about every day now. Luckily the nights have been tolerable – we get called in during the night if we are needed. We are now seeing that foregoing preventative healthcare in last 2 years is catching up to people. Finding beds for people that needed a higher level of care is really tough.

    In this small of a place having a coworker or 2 out sick can be a real challenge. For North Dakota the vaccine mandate is on hold by a court ruling for now. From my understanding a religious exemption can be whatever you want it to be. They really can’t afford to lose anyone.

    It’s tiring. Wearing a mask all day and putting on all the gear to go into a possible Covid room. It’s tiring earing the denial by so many. It’s tiring putting paperwork tasks on hold while being busy all day, day in and day out. Supply shortages are present.

    mahtofire14
    Mahtomedi, MN
    Posts: 11036
    #2081797

    I will stir this pot a little.

    Let me ask the general question to healthcare people who are feeling taken advantage of and/or considering leaving field all together a quick question, do you think/know it will be better elsewhere? Another field/ profession? I have 20 years professional experience mostly as a commission sales rep of some kind in about 3 different industries. So I feel I can safely say. Guess what. It ISN’T.

    The only way you’d be able to safely say that is if you’ve worked on the front lines of healthcare or public health. I’ll clue you in……

    Am I proud to be a healthcare worker and the job we do, hell yes. I’m proud of every one of the healthcare workers out there getting their butts run into the ground right now.

    Do I think a job where I wouldn’t have to clean someone up after they went to the bathroom in their bed sheets, at the same time dodging punches and kicks from that person covered in feces, or patients/family members verbally and physically assaulting us on a weekly basis, getting spit at, things thrown at you, food dumped on you, constantly overworked, unappreciated and always under threat of losing benefits, would be better?

    Yes. Yes I do.

    DeRangedFishinguy
    Up Nort’
    Posts: 301
    #2081806

    Perspective is key. Every job has it’s good and bad. It’s just a matter of how much poop you’re able to tolerate getting thrown at you. In the healthcare profession, there seems to be a lot of poop thrown at them, often time literally.

    A great big thank you to every single one of you out there that wears the scrubs and get’s poop thrown at you. I greatly appreciate you!

    robby
    Quad Cities
    Posts: 2823
    #2081833

    I am a Paramedic. The hospitals are at capacity around here. This simply means they do not have any open beds, or they do not have staff to take care of the Patients. In either case, they are quote “Full”. COVID is rampant here also, some have minor symptoms, some get really ill and require mechanical ventilation or ECHMO. Finding an ICU bed for a Patient is really difficult, finding a regular Medical bed is pretty difficult also. We are transporting Pt’s long distances on a really regular basis just to get them in a bed and out of the ER. If you are gravely ill, I do encourage everyone to go to your Family Doctor or a Walk in Clinic instead of the ER. The ERs are super busy and the wait times for lesser cases is very long. This said, if you believe you are gravely ill, having a heart attack, Stroke, appendicitis, something that could be life or limb threatening, do go to ER. I wish you all happiness and wellness. Prayers for everyone are super appropriate now, as really always.

    the_hat
    SE Metro
    Posts: 246
    #2081843

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>the_hat wrote:</div>
    I will stir this pot a little.

    Let me ask the general question to healthcare people who are feeling taken advantage of and/or considering leaving field all together a quick question, do you think/know it will be better elsewhere? Another field/ profession? I have 20 years professional experience mostly as a commission sales rep of some kind in about 3 different industries. So I feel I can safely say. Guess what. It ISN’T.

    The only way you’d be able to safely say that is if you’ve worked on the front lines of healthcare or public health. I’ll clue you in……

    Am I proud to be a healthcare worker and the job we do, hell yes. I’m proud of every one of the healthcare workers out there getting their butts run into the ground right now.

    Do I think a job where I wouldn’t have to clean someone up after they went to the bathroom in their bed sheets, at the same time dodging punches and kicks from that person covered in feces, or patients/family members verbally and physically assaulting us on a weekly basis, getting spit at, things thrown at you, food dumped on you, constantly overworked, unappreciated and always under threat of losing benefits, would be better?

    Yes. Yes I do.

    Fair enough. If those scenarios are what’s burnt you out and drive your desire to make a change. I respect that.

    Good luck to you.

    Jonesy
    Posts: 1148
    #2081950

    My wife is the lead RN in the local ER & also takes shifts on the floor. Without getting political, taking sides, discussing Covid, Government, etc – here is what I can tell you from her first-hand experience:

    Their RN’s start at $37.50 an hour with straight double time for any shifts picked up beyond FTE since Covid started. If you do the math, it’s pretty easy to make ~80k+ a year with only a little experience or the ability to pick up a shift or so each week. They’ve got tenured nurses with multiple levels of certification that are making far beyond 100k. The real dagger is that they have had a vacant position posted for 7 months with one applicant who changed their mind.

    Their hospital IS at capacity. They’ve been closed to admissions more often than not. They always have Covid patients who are hospitalized on any given day and have had some Covid deaths. If I broke my leg tomorrow, I’d get shipped to a different community to be treated and receive post operative care.

    For outsiders who say hospitals aren’t full because some idiot called it a conspiracy, please sign-up to work in one. Covid is partly to blame. However, the bigger issues are staffing and surge capabilities. The economics of hospitals for decades have been that they try to operate at levels where they are not “over-staffed” with minimal surge capabilities. While hospital administrators who can barely take their own temperature are raking in $200k+, lower paying positions have been trimmed or reallocated to maintain the bottom line. For decades nurses in rural settings have made decent money with modest salary grids, but now when the chaos, stress, and heartbreak of the job have compounded…the hospitals are short staffed and cannot shovel enough money their way to stay open. Hopefully when this pandemic or whatever it is now called recedes – the healthcare field learns a valuable lesson. Administrators, Directors, CEOs, etc. of hospital facilities don’t do S*** except cash their checks. These are the positions that need to be squeezed, not the boots on the ground type workers.

    My wife walked into the administrator’s office demanding double time on picked up shifts late this Summer for her fellow nurses + a substantial bump in salaries across the grid on top of the 4% they had already been given(all non union)…she gave them an ultimatum knowing they’d never be able to replace her or any of them. She reminded them that a suit and tie hasn’t taken a pay cut, nor have seen people die. Their counter was they would think about it and arrange a meeting with negotiators. Her final offer was to have it implemented within 48 hours or they’d walk effectively closing the hospital indefinitely as she forwarded attachments to dozens of job openings with sign-on bonuses to the entire staff and copied administration. Within 8 hours the raises and mandatory double time were added to their system.

    Not a nurse but have worked in a hospital for 10+ years and this is pretty spot on. For the first time in my time I have been able to toss raises at people who wanted to leave. I personally know of 3 ER nurses who left to join travel nursing. They make significantly more money and don’t have to deal with the internal BS of the hospital. I know in my ER we have at least 3 but I believe it’s 4 travel nurses on staff. Doing the same job those other 3 were doing but getting paid about $30 more an hour to do it. Not a bad gig.

    As far as capacity. Every week we are on ER divert, usually multiple times. We are often on ICU divert. One thing I can share though. We have a 10 bed ICU unit that is not being used simply because we do not have the staff to be able to cover it.

    Currently we have 23 inpatient Covid patients. 18 of them are non vaccinated. Covid patients make up about 20% of our inpatient census and about 50% of our ICU census.

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