DIY Hide Tanning?

  • B-man
    Posts: 5792
    #2297184

    The latest “adventure” I got talked into is attempting to tan a deer hide jester

    Any of you guys ever do one before?

    Started it yesterday, we used my electric pressure washer with the pin point tip (the fan tip did next to nothing), then salted the hide for 24 hours. Just reapplied the second salt now and put it back into the bucket.

    We’re filling the rest of the day making a euro-mount with the skull, some squirrel hunting in the backyard, and finishing up trimming/grinding.

    The whole hide tanning process is new to me and I’m all ears for any tips. We’re going to use one of those orange tanning bottles, but curious if anything else has worked as good or better for any of you.

    I’d absolutely love to have my wife make a big blanket with a few hides one day mrgreen

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    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3772
    #2297208

    That’s a dandy rack B. Congrats!

    glenn57
    cold spring mn
    Posts: 11804
    #2297209

    Your wife didn’t let you cook that skull in the kitchen Bman?, rotflol rotflol

    Mike Schulz
    Osakis/Long Prairie
    Posts: 1243
    #2297240

    did you try to scrap it?? just wondering how hard that would be to do.. have fun!!!

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13473
    #2297371

    If that is an Alum based tan, it will get stiff. Are you looking for soft pliable garment grade or just a display on the wall piece?

    Fleshing – Pressure hose is a newer trend and can work well. Be very careful to not over do it with the fine tip. If you damage the hair roots in the mid layer of the hide, it can have major hair slippage like over scraping a hide.

    Little bits of fat will render out in the process so don’t get carried away with making sure its “perfectly” clean. Connecting tissue and Meat must come off.

    Replaced phone and I don’t have any pelt pics to show you on it anymore – sorry

    Brain Tanning
    Materials:
    • Pig or horse brain (pig brain may be available at
    local butcher or meat market)
    • Chlorine-free water
    • Large board or stretching frame
    • Smooth wooden tool such as a canoe paddle or
    axe handle
    1. Prepare the tanning solution by combining 1
    pound of pig or horse brain with 2 gallons of
    warm water. For best results, use untreated water
    such as rainwater. If you do not have access to
    rainwater, purchase bottled spring water at your
    local grocery store. Water treated with chlorine
    may reduce the effectiveness of tanning solution.
    2. While the hide is still damp and pliable from
    preparation and cleaning procedures, immerse it
    in the brain tanning solution. Soak the hide
    overnight.
    3. Remove the hide from the solution. Remove a
    majority of the solution from the hide by
    squeezing it thoroughly or running carefully
    through a clothes wringer.
    4. Nail the hide to a board or stretch with a frame.
    A smooth tool such a canoe paddle can be used
    to work the hide. The hide should be worked by
    pushing and stretching it in a stroking motion
    until it dries.
    For thick hides, some prefer to reapply the
    warmed solution to the flesh side, cover with
    cloth overnight and repeat step 4 to ensure that
    the solution has been adequately worked deep
    into the hide.
    5. The final step for brain tanning is smoking the
    hide. Brain tanned hides are most durable if they
    are smoked for several hours in a smokehouse.
    However, be careful not to heat the hide too
    much. Use dry, semi-rotten wood to produce
    lots of smoke and low heat.

    OILING AND FINISHING
    Materials:
    • Fat liquor or tanning oil (such as Sulfated
    neatsfoot oil)–available through taxidermy
    supply catalogs
    • Household ammonia
    • Paintbrush
    • Sheet of plastic
    • Electric fan
    • Sheet of plywood
    • Nails (no. 6 finish)
    • Gasoline (optional)
    • Hardwood sawdust, bran or cornmeal
    • Sandpaper block
    Let the wet, tanned leather dry somewhat. While it
    is still damp, apply a coating of suitable fat liquor
    oil (such as sulfated neatsfoot oil). The amount of
    oil required will vary depending upon the natural
    oiliness of the skin. For instance, a raccoon skin,
    which is naturally very oily, will require
    proportionately less oil than a deer hide.
    1. Make the fat liquor oil by mixing 3 1/2 ounces
    of sulfated neatsfoot oil with 3 1/2 ounces of
    warm water and 1 ounce household ammonia.
    This fat liquor solution is for a 10-pound deer
    hide. Adjust the measures accordingly for
    smaller hides.

    2. Place the hide on a flat surface hair side down.
    Apply part of the fat liquor solution to a portion
    of the hide and spread it evenly with a paintbrush or your hand. Continue until one-half the
    solution has been applied to the hide. Allow the
    hide to stand for 30 minutes, and then apply the
    remainder of the oil in the same manner.
    3. Cover the hide with a sheet of plastic and let
    stand overnight. If several hides are fat- liquored
    at one time, they may be piled flesh side to
    flesh side.
    4. The next day, drape the skin, hair side out, over
    a pole or sawhorse and allow the hair to dry (the
    flesh side should remain moist and pliable). Use
    an electric fan to speed the drying.
    5. While the flesh side is still moist and pliable nail
    the skin, flesh side up, to a sheet of plywood,
    stretching the skin slightly. Space the nails (no.
    6 finish) every 5 to 6″ around the circumference
    and about 1/2″ from the edge. The flesh side will
    begin drying and should be kept at room
    temperature.
    6. When the skin is nearly dry but still slightly
    damp, remove the skin from the plywood board.
    Work the skin in all directions, stretching it
    from corner to corner and working the flesh side
    over a stake or a wooden edge, such as the back
    of a chair or a board clamped in a vise. The skin
    may also be worked this way through smooth
    metal rings.
    Success in producing a soft skin lies in
    repeated working, which must be done while the
    skin is drying out, not after it is dry. This process
    may be repeated several times if necessary;
    simply dampen the hide evenly and work it
    again while it dries.
    7. After the skin has been softened and dried, it
    can be given a hasty bath in white or unleaded
    gasoline, especially if the skin is too greasy.
    This bath also helps to deodorize some skins,
    such as skunk.CAUTION: Gasoline is extremely flammable and should be used outdoors away from fire or flame. The gas must
    be used in an appropriate pan or receptacle
    and disposed of safely.
    8. To clean and brighten the fur, tumble it
    repeatedly in dry, warm sawdust—preferably
    hardwood sawdust. Bran or cornmeal may also
    be used. Clean the particles out of the fur by
    gently shaking, beating, combing and brushing
    the fur.
    9. If necessary, the hide’s flesh side may be
    smoothed by working it with a sandpaper block.
    This also helps to further soften the skin. If
    desired, thicker sections of the skin may be
    thinned and made more flexible by shaving off
    some of the skin.

    basseyes
    Posts: 2509
    #2297582

    Just did a couple old elk hides we had from way back in the early 2000’s. Fleshed and salted them right away back then. They were in my folks basement for a long time till my dad died. Then sat in a shed and somehow didn’t get any mice activity over a few yrs. Dug them out and went through the process of getting the hair off and tanning them. Now they are on a big stretching setup and am surprised how good the hides still are. Fun project. Did deer choppers in my teens with hair on and had those for a long time. Hoping I can get multiple pairs of chopper mitts out of the elk hides and use liners in them vs hair on. It’s a lot of work but a great thing for kids to learn about. Am going to try to do a couple deer hides as well. Got the orange bottles from Minnesota trapping company and if you buy 6 they are $8/bottle. Fast shipping and a Minnesota company, win win.

    ThunderLund78
    Posts: 2524
    #2297600

    Man, practically does itself, hey Randy? rotflol

    Kidding– I’ve always been fascinated by the tanning process. Maybe when the empty nest days are here I’ll give it a try on a raccoon or smaller furbearer.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18615
    #2297605

    Man, practically does itself, hey Randy? rotflol

    Kidding– I’ve always been fascinated by the tanning process. Maybe when the empty nest days are here I’ll give it a try on a raccoon or smaller furbearer.

    jester

    John Rasmussen
    Blaine
    Posts: 6334
    #2297654

    I remember doing this as a youngster with my dad. We did a couple Racoons, they turned out okay but stiff as a board. Don’t recall that many steps Randy, guessing that’s why they didn’t turn out like we wanted.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13473
    #2297656

    Man, practically does itself, hey Randy? rotflol

    Kidding– I’ve always been fascinated by the tanning process. Maybe when the empty nest days are here I’ll give it a try on a raccoon or smaller furbearer.

    I’m a little more modern than that lol. My mentor was still tanning a lot of hides at 95+ years old. Primitive means by todays standards, but the quality of his work is unbelievable. Hair on deer hides were incredibly soft. No need to line the inner side for a blanket

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1756
    #2297815

    B-man. Randy is correct with the orange bottle. It will get stiff.

    I have done a couple now and moved away from the orange bottle right away. That works but best for mounts where a hard hide wont make a difference.

    Once you get done salting it can go into a pickle. You can keep it in a pickle bath for months and will not hurt the hide. this is if you wanted to use something different. I can take photos of the stuff I used last year when I get home and post it up. Its called NuTan. You can run the orange bottle this year and if you dont like it you can give this stuff a try.

    Fleshing and thinning the hide is important. You look like your doing a good job with yours there in the photo. I usually do not tan the neck. Just the back/sides. The neck is much thicker than the balance of the hide and requires a lot of thinning to allow it to get soft.

    Also very important is the finish. You need to stretch and stretch that hide a few times a day as it dries. It will whiten as you stretch it. There are some great videos on youtube about this.

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1756
    #2297817

    Here are a couple photos of a hide I did using NuTan.

    Pretty soft. Not as good as commercial but pretty close.

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    isu22andy
    Posts: 1738
    #2297845

    I too once was interesting in tanning hides . Then I looked into what I all needed to fleshing to chemicals and it was dang near cheaper to have someone else do it . Tanned coyote and bobcat so far . Had a freezer with a beaver muskrat badger mink and coon to get tanned and ended up selling them all to the fur buyer.

    Jimmy Jones
    Posts: 2808
    #2297848

    Buschman…. did you do the owl in the picture?

    buschman
    Pool 2
    Posts: 1756
    #2297877

    B-MAN

    I was wrong. I used Mckenze product on this last hide. I liked this stuff. Pickle and tanner are safe and easy. Cost a little more but not bad if you just want to learn this style process.

    here is what I have. I accidentally ordered too much tanning oil so if you need some for softening a hide let me know. I can send you some!

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