http://www.ussportsmen.org/interactive/features/Read.cfm?ID=1207
Thought this may interest you guys. Doesn’t make sense to me!
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http://www.ussportsmen.org/interactive/features/Read.cfm?ID=1207
Thought this may interest you guys. Doesn’t make sense to me!
Deer Birth Control?? that’s pretty stupid….If the population is too high….shoot em. …problem solved.
Deer Birth Control?? that’s pretty stupid….If the population is too high….shoot em. …problem solved.
Based on the limited literature cited on the subject, it appears that the anti’s are calling the shots (no pun intended!) on this issue. PPM or pi$$ poor management strategy if you ask me. Controlled hunts have been the most successful method for urban deer management for decades. As the old saying goes, ” if you mess with Mother Nature she will show you that she can be a mean mother!” I hope that some intellect is injected into this situation versus hormone therapy.
Based on the limited literature cited on the subject, it appears that the anti’s are calling the shots (no pun intended!) on this issue. PPM or pi$$ poor management strategy if you ask me. Controlled hunts have been the most successful method for urban deer management for decades. As the old saying goes, ” if you mess with Mother Nature she will show you that she can be a mean mother!” I hope that some intellect is injected into this situation versus hormone therapy.
Theres a WW 2 amunition and storage plant down in se iowa around burlington. Its a completely fenced area with hundreds of acres. They control the deer there with permits for drives and its effective. Theres a town just south of me , its iowa city a college town, and when they first hired sharpshooters to cull the herd it started at about $450.00 a deer i think, now i’ve heard the price is around 7 to $800 a deer, sombodys got a good thing going! Im not shure where the funding is coming from to cull the dozens of deer in iowa city, hope its not from the fees from the hunting and fishing liscenses. Its suppose to be a clean kill shooting program and i’ve herd of some very bad shots at the deer and animals ending up in the backyards of the people who wanted the deer culled by sharpshooters instead of bowhunters. I know that here in town, cedar rapids they issue dozens of special deer zone permits and the archers take care of thinning the herd, it works here. If the herd builds more in diffrent sections of town they issue permits for those areas until they have acceptable numbers. In town here thier eating the bushes and flowers to the ground in some sections and most people like the bowhunting reports and accept that they have to be culled.
Theres a WW 2 amunition and storage plant down in se iowa around burlington. Its a completely fenced area with hundreds of acres. They control the deer there with permits for drives and its effective. Theres a town just south of me , its iowa city a college town, and when they first hired sharpshooters to cull the herd it started at about $450.00 a deer i think, now i’ve heard the price is around 7 to $800 a deer, sombodys got a good thing going! Im not shure where the funding is coming from to cull the dozens of deer in iowa city, hope its not from the fees from the hunting and fishing liscenses. Its suppose to be a clean kill shooting program and i’ve herd of some very bad shots at the deer and animals ending up in the backyards of the people who wanted the deer culled by sharpshooters instead of bowhunters. I know that here in town, cedar rapids they issue dozens of special deer zone permits and the archers take care of thinning the herd, it works here. If the herd builds more in diffrent sections of town they issue permits for those areas until they have acceptable numbers. In town here thier eating the bushes and flowers to the ground in some sections and most people like the bowhunting reports and accept that they have to be culled.
What a great opportunity to make some money instead of spending it – from the article-> “Statistics show that treatments average $2,943 per deer.” Heck, charge a bowhunter $50 and give him 3 tags to fill. Done deal. This eliminates the problem, the deer that have been “treated” are still roaming around causing damage. No brainer.
What a great opportunity to make some money instead of spending it – from the article-> “Statistics show that treatments average $2,943 per deer.” Heck, charge a bowhunter $50 and give him 3 tags to fill. Done deal. This eliminates the problem, the deer that have been “treated” are still roaming around causing damage. No brainer.
Mossy Dan is right about Iowa City, it has some of the most foolish bleeding heart liberals/ bunny huggers around these parts.They hired an outfit out east to come in here and shoot the deer at night with rifles over bales of hay. These things are not legal for the rest of Iowas hunters but they are just fine for them. The whole thing stinks and they still have a problem there.
Mossy Dan is right about Iowa City, it has some of the most foolish bleeding heart liberals/ bunny huggers around these parts.They hired an outfit out east to come in here and shoot the deer at night with rifles over bales of hay. These things are not legal for the rest of Iowas hunters but they are just fine for them. The whole thing stinks and they still have a problem there.
MossyDan . . . just what kind of shrubs are they planting that the deer like to eat do much?? I think I’ll hit the greenhouse this spring so I can have some of those deer in my yard !!
MossyDan . . . just what kind of shrubs are they planting that the deer like to eat do much?? I think I’ll hit the greenhouse this spring so I can have some of those deer in my yard !!
MossyDan;
We have the snipers up here in the metro area too. They appear to be very good. I’m in the mortgage business, and I had a client who did this for a living. When he told me, I thought he was full of crap. He also makes good money at it.
Trust me, there aren’t too many cities more liberal than Minneapolis, and there are no complaints at all. I would petetion to fire whoever it is that is doing it down there. Most of the people they have culling up here are doing it in the major populated areas of the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. Not the suburb parks as one would think.
MossyDan;
We have the snipers up here in the metro area too. They appear to be very good. I’m in the mortgage business, and I had a client who did this for a living. When he told me, I thought he was full of crap. He also makes good money at it.
Trust me, there aren’t too many cities more liberal than Minneapolis, and there are no complaints at all. I would petetion to fire whoever it is that is doing it down there. Most of the people they have culling up here are doing it in the major populated areas of the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. Not the suburb parks as one would think.
I just seen the post from you gary overlooking the others since my last one. I work all over town doing drywall repair and the se side of town has the most netting over thier bushes. I worked for some people there and this gal raised hostas and had them by the hundreds all around her yard. The spring i was there she was waiting for her hostas to come up and i said whats wrong i see there up all over town and she said the deer love the shoots that come through the ground and i looked around and i mean all of them were eatin to the ground, out her front window, under the shade bushes that hostas love, right next to the walls of her house besides all the out buildings. When it comes to bushes i don’t think it makes any diffrence because i see all of them eaten about as far up as a deer can reach, minus standing on his back legs, i call it the browse line. I did see a doe one time standing on her back legs browsing a malberry tree for it branches out taking pictures. Some hunters may not know this but probably 80% atleast of a deers diet is browse, tender limbs, corn leaves and they do eat grain but prefer browse. All the deer i’ve cleaned had most of thier stomachs filled with browse. Right now thier bedded down because of the wind we were having, laying on the sunny side of the hills keeping warm, seen about 20 yesterday and about 10 today just driving to and from work here in town. About the sharpshooters in iowa city i don’t know whats going on down there but i’ve herd of some bad shooting. Ya know i’ve wondered how oak or hickory slugs would work for in town hunting because they wouldn’t carry as far. I think they should be good for 50 yrds shouldn’t they after that they would loose momentum and just not carry that far to endanger anyone in populated areas. Wooden slugs would work for shooting here in town and i know i could get my deer at 50 yrds with them. Maybe this way would be alot safer for deer control, maybe the dnr could get in contact with the major ammo companies and come up with some slugs for in town hunting for town permitted hunting only. The only way a hunter could take a deer in town with slugs. The archers do good here in town but if i had a doe in front of me at 40 to 50 yrds it would go down with oak slugs. I know they used them in the civil war here in the states when lead was in short supply.
I just seen the post from you gary overlooking the others since my last one. I work all over town doing drywall repair and the se side of town has the most netting over thier bushes. I worked for some people there and this gal raised hostas and had them by the hundreds all around her yard. The spring i was there she was waiting for her hostas to come up and i said whats wrong i see there up all over town and she said the deer love the shoots that come through the ground and i looked around and i mean all of them were eatin to the ground, out her front window, under the shade bushes that hostas love, right next to the walls of her house besides all the out buildings. When it comes to bushes i don’t think it makes any diffrence because i see all of them eaten about as far up as a deer can reach, minus standing on his back legs, i call it the browse line. I did see a doe one time standing on her back legs browsing a malberry tree for it branches out taking pictures. Some hunters may not know this but probably 80% atleast of a deers diet is browse, tender limbs, corn leaves and they do eat grain but prefer browse. All the deer i’ve cleaned had most of thier stomachs filled with browse. Right now thier bedded down because of the wind we were having, laying on the sunny side of the hills keeping warm, seen about 20 yesterday and about 10 today just driving to and from work here in town. About the sharpshooters in iowa city i don’t know whats going on down there but i’ve herd of some bad shooting. Ya know i’ve wondered how oak or hickory slugs would work for in town hunting because they wouldn’t carry as far. I think they should be good for 50 yrds shouldn’t they after that they would loose momentum and just not carry that far to endanger anyone in populated areas. Wooden slugs would work for shooting here in town and i know i could get my deer at 50 yrds with them. Maybe this way would be alot safer for deer control, maybe the dnr could get in contact with the major ammo companies and come up with some slugs for in town hunting for town permitted hunting only. The only way a hunter could take a deer in town with slugs. The archers do good here in town but if i had a doe in front of me at 40 to 50 yrds it would go down with oak slugs. I know they used them in the civil war here in the states when lead was in short supply.
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