I am very surprised this thread isnt a complete buzz with the the threat of CWD in our state. What do you all think about DEER/Elk pens in MN. now ?
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Does anyone know about CWD in MN
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lickPosts: 6443February 23, 2011 at 1:29 pm #100873
Ok maybe I should rephrase that. The topic should be on fire. What do you guys think about pen raised deer or elk in MN. Like why should we as Deer hunters have to foot the bill for the sampling of 900 deer. What is the Elk and Deer farmers responsibility for all of this
February 23, 2011 at 1:34 pm #100875Also Pat,seeings you’re from WS what is your state doing in regards to CWD ? Is it working and how much money has the state of WS spent trying to eraticate this horrible disease ?
lickPosts: 6443February 23, 2011 at 2:06 pm #100878Quote:
Also Pat,seeings you’re from WS what is your state doing in regards to CWD ? Is it working and how much money has the state of WS spent trying to eraticate this horrible disease ?
While I was lucky enough to not be affected by the CWD here. My opinion is CWD has been here forever and will never be gone. I have been eating venison since I was able to chew and guess what I am not dead yet. I totally disagree with eradication and think it is ridiculous. Those of you that this affects have my sympathy. You work so hard with QDM and such and now this.
FYI they are still hunting here in the CWD zones
February 23, 2011 at 5:50 pm #100892i was told in the cwd zone in mn they are sending in some sharp shooters as we speak like pat said its been here forever and there are pro and cons to the steps they are taking in my eyes i can see wanting to contain it but to wipe out a deer heard to check every deer is a lil much in my eye and when alot of them deer are doe that are most likly prego with fawns could hurt the population alot but what ever happen to mother nature working things out on her own yes it sucks but it maybe her way of weeding threw the week by letting mother nature take its course i cant see in my eyes that its going to wipe every deer in the state out but i guess i dont know for sure as i dont know a great deal about it but i think by letting it be over time it would work itself out……but thats just my half thoughts on it
February 23, 2011 at 6:05 pm #100895They have had sharp shooters out since Monday ! Oxbow Park is one of the spots I think that is total BS …… Then you have morons out shooting young deer (fawns) that can’t even be tested Last count on young deer was 85 Shed bucks are going down like crazy also
February 23, 2011 at 6:07 pm #100896Quote:
Last count on young deer was 85 Shed bucks are going down like crazy also
February 23, 2011 at 7:25 pm #100899
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What is the Elk and Deer farmers responsibility for all of this
Do you really think deer farmers invented this disease! Y would it be there responsibility!
What your surprised they found the disease in captive pens! Guess what people where you look you will find!
deer farmers usually find the problem not because it comes from them But because they are the ones testing!
every deer that dies over 16 months old has to be tested!
and another thing there are cures being worked on and guess who is paying for that!
There is private researchers working on cures because the deer industry is a major market for them! cure the disease and people that spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on deer some times that much on one! will pay for a vaccine!
deer farmers in a roundabout way will be the reason for controlling this problem!
I live in the pine island area! You guys crying about shooting a few fawns and shed bucks!
After the DNR takes there samples we have no control over you better show up at the meeting when they make there decisions laws for hunting in the next few years! Or you wont have any deer left to worry about!
I see this area as a no quota for next year if the DNR gets its way!
Guess what the DNR knows if they offer hunters more tags they will use them! Maybe you wont but when your deer walks over to the neighbors it will get shot!
people need to look at the bigger picture and stop pointing fingers! this is just the distraction the dnr want you to have so you will fall in line with them!
Oh and after going to the info meeting at the PI school! I decided to participate in the harvest of a few deer! I figured they are going to take there samples anyway! so I might as well get a deer or two for the freezer! Not because I agree with it!
February 23, 2011 at 7:51 pm #100900You did’nt invent it but you sure have to take respondsibility for spreding it. Do you think it is purely accidental that the first wild deer in Mn to test positive for cwd was less than 3 miles from a pen that had 3 elk that tested positive. I”m sorry but Deer and Elk were never meant to be raised in a pen like cattle or sheep. Deer are not meant to be domesticated period…
February 23, 2011 at 8:03 pm #100901Quote:
Last count on young deer was 85 Shed bucks are going down like crazy also
Jason (or anyone else for that matter), do you know what the count is so far on total deer taken?
February 23, 2011 at 8:35 pm #100905mat03z
this is what i find so funny and i think that CWD is such a joke!
Ok they find a Elk positive! and after killing 750+ animals they find 4 in all positive!
When was the last elk brought in from outside! Im not 100% sure but i have been told it has been more than 15 years! again this is what i was told! (please correct me if this is not true!)
If this is in fact true there would have been a much higher infection rate than what they found if this is such a contagious disease!~
as far as farmers spreading the diseases It is hard for me to believe that they are to blame! farmed deer are tested and tested! There is a huge percentage more captive deer tested than wild deer! and most all captive deer end up tested! but yet the domesticated deer have a astronomically lower positive test rate than tested wild deer! Y would this be when you test basically 100% of penned deer at some point! and only test a very very small percentage of wild deer!
If every deer in the wild were tested when it died I bet you would find a very low(less than 1%)percentage of deer every where that whitetails live have CWD
The experts preach things to scare people but then with there very next breath they say BUT WE REALLY DONT KNOW!
as far as coincidence I bet there are some hard core hunters that live closer to that deer that have in fact brought earth home from places that were infected with CWD! so should we point the finger at the hunters?
February 23, 2011 at 8:36 pm #100906mike!
I was told over 400 deer have been taken so far! as of today!
February 23, 2011 at 8:48 pm #100907Quote:
mike!
I was told over 400 deer have been taken so far! as of today!
Thanks! That’s lower than I thought it would be at this time!
February 23, 2011 at 9:31 pm #100909Quote:
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What is the Elk and Deer farmers responsibility for all of this
like was stated earlier cwd has been around forever and prob always will be i dont see any point in blaming it on elk/deer farmers i cant see how it can be when its been around for how long it happens is there a way to prevent it other than try to keep populations in check i see nothing wrong with taking a few deer for testing but why hundreds like you stated there was how many elk killed and tested and only a few had it i dont see a point in killing off hundreds and chance of finding 50,25,10 or maybe none with it “out of all them deer killed to date for testing anyone know how many tested +” just wondering i can see this being a on going debate but about whats right and whats wrong but in the end they are all opinions and i dont think one can prove his/hers is the right one i think the main focus point should be that it all passes over and get back to focusing on having a healthy deer heard
lickPosts: 6443February 23, 2011 at 10:17 pm #100913Quote:
What do you mean that they are still hunting in the cwd zones?
The WI DNR opened a “special” hunt in the CWD zones that runs thru March 31 I believe Not 100% sure on the end date
February 23, 2011 at 10:56 pm #100915Quote:
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What do you mean that they are still hunting in the cwd zones?
The WI DNR opened a “special” hunt in the CWD zones that runs thru March 31 I believe Not 100% sure on the end date
i forgot about that
February 23, 2011 at 11:00 pm #100916as far as WI gos its on there DNR web pages!
over 220,000 of witch 166,568 were adult deer tested with 1569 positives!
http://prodoasext.dnr.wi.gov/inter1/pk_cwd_zonerpt$.startupThis is less than 1%
just sayin!
February 23, 2011 at 11:25 pm #100918Quote:
as far as WI gos its on there DNR web pages!
over 220,000 of witch 166,568 were adult deer tested with 1569 positives!
http://prodoasext.dnr.wi.gov/inter1/pk_cwd_zonerpt$.startupwow i wasnt sure thanks for posting that info and idea on the pine island testing ???
lickPosts: 6443February 24, 2011 at 1:58 am #100931Pine Island / Tests show area clear of CWD
Pioneer PressUpdated: 02/17/2011 11:24:47 PM CST
Tests so far have found no chronic wasting disease in deer in the Pine Island area, according to the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources.
DNR big-game coordinator Lou Cornicelli said that as of Thursday, 240 deer had been tested — all with negative results.
Cornicelli said 300 permits have been issued so far to landowners, allowing them to shoot deer on their property. Sharpshooters from the U.S. Department of Agriculture also will begin taking deer early next week as the DNR tries to reach its goal of testing 900 adult deer.
The DNR is trying to determine the extent of an outbreak of chronic wasting disease in southeastern Minnesota after a deer killed near Pine Island last fall tested positive for the fatal brain disease.
Chronic wasting affects deer, elk and moose. There is no evidence the disease can spread to humans.
— Associated Press
Good call MN
February 24, 2011 at 3:13 am #100935Thanks for the info. again I hope and pray that there are no more positive results I am afraid that the hunting will never be the same in this area if they find more with cwd
February 24, 2011 at 3:15 am #100936Quote:
Thanks for the info. again I hope and pray that there are no more positive results I am afraid that the hunting will never be the same in this area if they find more with cwd
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February 24, 2011 at 2:58 pm #100957The sharpshooters which are paid by anyone who buys a deer license in Mn. Ticks me off also. If we as sportsmen wanted to help get samples for the magic number of 900. They would,nt let us play by the same rules. We cant bait the deer and they wouldnt let us hunt on State land or land owned by the county. I have alot of mixed feeling about this whole situation, but I dont understand why if volunteers are available for free. Why we cant play by the same rules. Now we pay huge money for federal sharpshooters ? What gives ????
xecutePosts: 67February 25, 2011 at 3:47 pm #101046Does anyone support what they are doing?? I don’t and haven’t met one person that does. If you do I want to hear from you.
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