If you Bow Hunt in WI, you MUST read this!

I read this on another site and I thought it was important enough to post it here. I have now read the whole thing, has anyone else heard of this???? This is not a good thing folks, in matter of fact it really sucks IMO????

Why do people have to stick their nose in where it don’t belong or where they have no clue what they are talking about????

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I checked this out at the below link, and the question is presented on page

39 of the 2009 Spring hearing questionnaire, question #57.

Forward this to all the people you know who bow hunt.

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*****WI Bow hunting threat alert*****

Wisconsin bowhunters, Your bow season is at risk. While reading through the Conservation Congress Spring hearings questions, I came across question 57 which seeks to make the archery season an antlerless only season except for opening weekend and two weeks during the rut. Bowhunters would not be allowed to harvest a buck at any other time of the bow season if this passes.

It is being labeled an “EAB alternative” is really an attack on bowhunters. The wording is sneaky enough not to mention the bow season which is most likely an attempt to trick unsuspecting CC voters into voting for it as an “Alternative” to EAB on the grounds of fairness.

By “fairness”, it means that since gun hunters get an opening weekend and the 9 day season to hunt bucks that bowhunters should only get that same amount of time to harvest bucks.

As a Bowhunter, you have more reason than ever to attend the state wide spring hearing on Monday, April 13th @ 7:00 pm and vote NO to question 57.

This proposal would…

– result in decreased # of does being harvested by either archery or gun hunters.

– promote an increased number of hunters in the field only for the “buck harvest” seasons.

– result in less opportunity for archery hunters to tag a buck.

Please make sure to spread the word about this assault on the bow season.

Here is the wording as it appears in the CC spring hearing book.

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QUESTION 57 – An EAB Alternative

The use of the Earn-a -Buck deer season in Wisconsin has been controversial, unpopular, and seemingly unfair to many hunters since its inception. Yet, EAB has proven to be effective at reducing high deer populations. It accomplishes this by tying the ability, opportunity, and desire for harvesting a buck with the biological necessity of harvesting antlerless deer. Sadly, EAB does this on an individual hunter basis where one hunter may be able to hunt bucks for over 100 days, while another hunter may never have even one day’s chance.

Another way of utilizing the same “ability, opportunity, and desire for harvesting a buck” would be to implement a full-length antlerless season with a shortened buck harvest period. Season opening weekends (and perhaps a two or three week rutting period) would always be open for buck harvest so everyone in the DMU has the same chance at that time for a buck every year that the program is in effect. Antlerless harvest would be spurred on during the rest of the season by the desire to return to a full-season buck hunting opportunity again. Specific time periods and trigger points for the implementation of such a management tool could be developed cooperatively with the DNR. All hunters under this system would and should be treated equally.

In areas or DMUs of high over-goal deer populations and in an effort to provide equal buck-hunting opportunity to all hunters in those units, would you prefer the concept of shortening buck hunting opportunity by limiting the buck harvest equally for all hunters on a seasonal basis instead of limiting individual opportunity through the use of EAB?

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To find out where your county CC hearing is, go to the following link.

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/nrboard/congress/spring_hearings/index.html

Download the questionnaire here…

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/nrboard/congress/spring_hearings/2009/CC-2009-Spring-Questionnaire-Final.pdf

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Thanks for the heads up. We need to vote this down.

I read that last week…..disturbing!

Everyone needs to get out the CC hearings and vote this proposal down!

WDNR = We Do Nothing Right!!!

That would not be good…what a kick to the ball$

Absolutely Ridiculous IMO.

If this type of BS ever passed, I would like to think that archery license sales would hit an all time low…

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That would not be good…what a kick to the ball$

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I have just started to hunt wisconsin and had a great time earing my sticker and NOT harvesting a buck. People like me that come from out of state who are limited on time would be more limited to say the least. I make it over to hunt when I can. A day here a day there maybe two. I couldnt imagine being a resident and having to be restricked 82 of the 90 days or so! How do they determine the exact time of the rut?? If they know when that happens for sure I would like to know so I can take vacation

Not to stir the pot, but this is what members of my Gun-only hunting party have been asking about for a long time. They don’t believe it’s fair that bowhunters get to dedicate two months to hunting a deer, while the gun hunters must do it for 7-9 days.

Now I just started bow hunting last year and really enjoy the extra time in the woods, but if this would ever pass I would probably hang up the bow. I have to believe that the bowhunting industry would take a dive as well. I don’t think that’s what we need.

I still can’t believe it. Fair and Equal… Are you serious?? How about we limit gun shots to 40 yards also (toungue in cheek)???

However, depsite my last comment in this time of the world, we as Sportsman need to be united and fight the other groups not ourselves. This is a very sad day, that soemone actually came up with this and others must have supported it. Before we know it we will not have a season. This is just the start or the first step folks. They will not stop until we are all not hunting.

Can someone tell me, if you are a non resident, do you have a say in this???

I’ve sent out a mass email to all my bow hunting buddies! We will definately shoot this one down! I’ll load up my truck and take them all down to vote against this.

As far as this being unfair to the gun hunters or not? If you want to hunt more than the 9 day deer season, then pick up a bow and start hunting the rest of the “deer” season! I think you’ll be like the rest of us archery fanatics and enjoy bow hunting better than gun hunting! If I was given the choice, the gun would stay home and the bow would go out every time! But thank GOD I have the choice to use both! Why punish the archery hunters who have been doing this for many many years?

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I’ve sent out a mass email to all my bow hunting buddies! We will definately shoot this one down! I’ll load up my truck and take them all down to vote against this.

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As did I! I’ll see you at the Middle School on April 13th!!

Schafer, make sure you pick up Dan Meyer on the way!

Ok, now imagine the impact of this on the Outfitters, Archery shops, Taxidermists, & etc. that are trying to make a living in small town Wisconsin.

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Schafer, make sure you pick up Dan Meyer on the way!

Ok, now imagine the impact of this on the Outfitters, Archery shops, Taxidermists, & etc. that are trying to make a living in small town Wisconsin.

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He was one of the many I emailed!!!

Agreed, the economic impact would be huge as well.

And we thought Earn A Buck was screwed up! The DNR never ceases to amaze me!!!

I feel sorry for those that hunt in WI with all the rules and findings that have come up lately I sure HOPE TO GOD that we in MN won’t see this I would probably take up skateboarding and snowboarding again

I posted the following on Archery Talk and several hunting groups on Facebook. I actually got blocked from making any more posts on Facebook from overuse! He He

I’d recommend everyone interested in deer hunting click on the following link and read everything you can but at least read from page 39 through 42 so you can see how important it is to attend this meeting. There are some interesting questions that everyone needs to be aware of. Other items of interest for fishing and hunting are included in the questionnaire but I want to highlight what I found on deer hunting.

Please take special notice of Question 57 EAB Alternative! This affects bow hunters!!!

Please attend the meeting in your county on Monday, April 13 at 7:00 pm and voice your opinion! Pages 7 and 8 show where to meet in your county.

Also, please invite others to attend. This is too important to ignore.

http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/nrboard/congress/spring_hearings/2009/CC-2009-Spring-Questionnaire-Final.pdf

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As did I! I’ll see you at the Middle School on April 13th!!

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A couple reasons why they start bowhunting sooner here in Iowa. First of all its harder to shoot any deer with a bow and takes more hours to get one.
Another is the deer really put on the brakes when moving during gun season and until its over, clear until the final season ends. Not to stir the pot guys but this sounds like jealous gun hunters wanting a crack at a buck at the same time the bowhunters do, I hope im wrong. Another thing Wisc. should change is gun hunting with the timing of the rut, it should come after the ruts over so the bucks get a chance to breed more does incase thier harvested. If they pass this bill and im an out of stater with an out of state point of view I’d never pick up a bow in Wisc. I feel for ya guys, vote this numb brained bill down, its absoulutely one of the worst I’ve ever heard, it sounds as bad or worse then almost any non hunting bill, obviously designed by non bowhunters.

i agree with you Mossy The only reason i see for WI and MN gun seasons be during the rut and not after is the chance of having too many does not killed that have been bred. Thus, increased deer population=more car crashes=possible chaos?? Just my .02

I agree with what your saying to but they could have special doe culling seasons and extra tags forsale during the main seasons to control the does, thats what they do here to keep the population in check, the herds go up in pop. and they issure more tags next year. Those does that make it through need to be bred by those bucks befor the bucks are taken by hunters, not hopeing that the bucks make it through and breed after the gun season. They can have any doe season anywhere to control the herds because the bucks push them out into traffic, (let the bucks breed them first) then open gun season with extra doe tags available but let the bucks breed.

Mossy,
You have to remember the DumNR wants to get rid of all the deer so they don’t want the bucks to breed. That would create more deer!

Ya so it may seem, it dosen’t make any sense to me. Maybe thier thinking the more bucks there are around the more does get pushed out into traffic.

Here’s question #57
QUESTION 57 – An EAB Alternative
The use of the Earn-a-Buck deer season in Wisconsin has been controversial, unpopular, and seemingly
unfair to many hunters since its inception. Yet, EAB has proven to be effective at reducing high deer
populations. It accomplishes this by tying the ability, opportunity, and desire for harvesting a buck with the
biological necessity of harvesting antlerless deer. Sadly, EAB does this on an individual hunter basis where
one hunter may be able to hunt bucks for over 100 days, while another hunter may never have even one
day’s chance.
Another way of utilizing the same “ability, opportunity, and desire for harvesting a buck” would be to
implement a full-length antlerless season with a shortened buck harvest period. Season opening weekends
(and perhaps a two or three week rutting period) would always be open for buck harvest so everyone in the
DMU has the same chance at that time for a buck every year that the program is in effect. Antlerless
harvest would be spurred on during the rest of the season by the desire to return to a full-season buck
hunting opportunity again. Specific time periods and trigger points for the implementation of such a
management tool could be developed cooperatively with the DNR. All hunters under this system would and
should be treated equally.

In areas or DMUs of high over-goal deer populations and in an effort to provide equal buck-hunting
opportunity to all hunters in those units, would you prefer the concept of shortening buck hunting
opportunity by limiting the buck harvest equally for all hunters on a seasonal basis instead of
limiting individual opportunity through the use of EAB?
57. Yes _____ No _____

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What does EAB have to do with shortening the buck harvest season for bow hunters???
This is very deceptive.

My argument is the way the law is today, everyone as an equal chance to shoot a buck because it’s an individual choice on what weapon you want to use.

Plain and simple – this proposed law is favored by gun hunters who don’t bow hunt and want to decrease a bow hunter’s chance to kill “their buck” and has absolutely nothing to do with EAB. I can’t believe the DNR even allowed that correlation.

Let’s get out there and vote this question down!

I see it the same, thier throwing out a false preceived notion that everybody wants to vote on how thier stating it. I can see opening day now, the only guys who get a shot at a buck are the ones with multple round in thier gun and chase them to other gun hunters. The bow hunters only pray that thier timber hasen’t any gun hunters in it. Theres no way in heck Id be in a tree stand with my bow and all the rifles going off, its not safe and they should be concerned about public safety, I wonder if thier even thinking about public hunting land where theres both types of hunters. When the gun seasons open here the bowhunting stops and starts again after gun seasons over. Am I missing something or are they proposing that both types of hunters are going to be in the field at the same time.

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I see it the same, thier throwing out a false preceived notion that everybody wants to vote on how thier stating it. I can see opening day now, the only guys who get a shot at a buck are the ones with multple round in thier gun and chase them to other gun hunters. The bow hunters only pray that thier timber hasen’t any gun hunters in it. Theres no way in heck Id be in a tree stand with my bow and all the rifles going off, its not safe and they should be concerned about public safety, I wonder if thier even thinking about public hunting land where theres both types of hunters. When the gun seasons open here the bowhunting stops and starts again after gun seasons over. Am I missing something or are they proposing that both types of hunters are going to be in the field at the same time.

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You’ve got it!

This is a bad idea! Just because the archers have a longer season doesn’t mean they are hunting everyday,alot of gun hunters only hunt a couple of days plus many have earned their buck sticker the previuos year,can you imagine the number of bucks that would be shot if gun season was open during the peak of the rut,the herd is already overestimated except from the dnr,both gun and bow hunters must not let the anti hunters sneak in between the cracks!

Good points Outdraft! Welcome to IDO!

Thanks,i’ve been meaning to join for along time

After reading this, I am with Brad. It has “absolutely” ZERO to do with EAB, other than Strictly gun hunters, think Bow Hunters have an unfair advantage, because of season length, to earn their buck. Like others have said, pick up a bow then…. why target another in the same ranks ? The anti’s and the gun hunters seem to be working together on this one…..

big G