ok the guy that owns the land i hunt on shot a button buck and a 6-pointer opening morning then had to call around to find someone who would take the deer because he didnt want them to me thats just killing am i wrong or just frustrated because he shot 2 bucks that needed to live in my opinion he hadnt shot small bucks in the whole time i hunted there so not sure why this year was diff sorry needed to vent a lil
Too many people rate the success of their hunt on whether or not they killed something. 
That’s ok to vent about something like that. I take other people’s game all the time just so it doesn’t go to waste.
DT
Everybodys goals are different, that said, if it’s not illegal, it shouldn’t matter what others think. Do what makes you happy/satisfied. I have no issue with how somebody hunts on their land.
big G
Don’t let it get under your skin so much, after seeing and shooting small bucks year after year some people still see a small buck as a trophy. It can get frustrating when they still see a small buck as one to put on the wall, worse yet they take it just because its got horns. They can do what they want because its thier land but a shooters still a shooter.
nope you’re not wrong, he could have called around before season and asked “hey if I get a deer would you take it?” instead of shooting one then hoping someone would take it.
I don’t really havea problem with the guy shooting a deer that size, “greatness is in the eye of the beholder” I do however think that he should of found someone to take his deer for the year before he shot it, or not shot anything at all.
gutone4me,
I would be very frustrated w/ that situation. I had a customer that i deal w/ at work, who lives in Michigan send me a picture from where he hunts this past week. it was 6 deer hanging on a pole w/ 1 nice buck, 1 doe, and (4) 1.5 yr old bucks. i told him congrats and then asked why did they shoot so many “tiny tims?” then he asked if i was bashing him? i said no, i was just curious because he always says that he wants to shoot bigger bucks. I told him that it was different in MN then in MI because we can only shoot 1 buck per year w/ our own tag and maybe some guys standards would be less knowing they could shoot 2 bucks like in MI. plus, i didn’t want to urine him off because of future business.
I really don’t know where i’m going w/ this other then i called the guy “out” on something that he had said and explained where i was coming from?
I’m not saying you should do that w/ the land owner but, is there a way that you can talk to him and get your point across? Sometimes all it takes is explaining what you are trying to accomplish. it’s might be a difficult thing to say but at least he will get the idea in his head and it will sit in the back of his mind. whether it effects the way he hunts or not will have to be seen in the future.
Just make sure it’s a casual conversation, you don’t want to lose your place to hunt over it.
Good Luck
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ok the guy that owns the land i hunt on shot a button buck and a 6-pointer opening morning then had to call around to find someone who would take the deer because he didnt want them to me thats just killing am i wrong or just frustrated because he shot 2 bucks that needed to live in my opinion he hadnt shot small bucks in the whole time i hunted there so not sure why this year was diff sorry needed to vent a lil
In your case isn’t venting a bit like biting the hand that feeds you? He’s letting you hunt his property so I’d be greatful and not question what he shoots on his land…
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In your case isn’t venting a bit like biting the hand that feeds you? He’s letting you hunt his property so I’d be greatful and not question what he shoots on his land…
That was my thought exactly 
Your view and the landowners are obviously different. In the end, the landowner view trumps a guest view every day of the week.
I myself wouldn’t dare question a landowners philosophy on how he manages his land or the deer on it. If you don’t agree with shooting small bucks, you can hold out for a bigger one. He on the other hand should be allowed to shoot what he desires without question from people he allows to hunt his land.
In your case isn’t venting a bit like biting the hand that feeds you? He’s letting you hunt his property so I’d be greatful and not question what he shoots on his land…
ok i worded it wrong i believe i earn the right to hunt there not like i just show up and hunt i bought a tractor put in 10 food plots and hung 15 stands mow all the trails so i do put alot into the land not like im freeloading 
First off congratulate him on his two kills and make a big deal about it. Then slowly and delicately in another coversation down the road, start talking to him about QDM. Present it as an opportunity to shoot trophy caliber bucks and see if he’s interested in doing that. Share with him your thoughts and your vision. Present it as taking the next step in a hunting career. Maybe, just maybe he will bite on it. However, if he doesn’t want to pass on little bucks, you need to understand that his goals are different than yours and he’s the landowner.
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Too many people rate the success of their hunt on whether or not they killed something.
I suck then. 
Good advise this is what I would do also.
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First off congratulate him on his two kills and make a big deal about it. Then slowly and delicately in another coversation down the road, start talking to him about QDM. Present it as an opportunity to shoot trophy caliber bucks and see if he’s interested in doing that. Share with him your thoughts and your vision. Present it as taking the next step in a hunting career. Maybe, just maybe he will bite on it. However, if he doesn’t want to pass on little bucks, you need to understand that his goals are different than yours and he’s the landowner.
I guess I’m curious to know if the land owner farms the area and has a problem with crop damage. In that case I know other’s in that situation that have no problems taking any of the brown and feathered crop eaters.
Otherwise in my opinion….it is wrong to kill something just to kill. If he wasn’t looking to give the meat away I would not have a problem with it. Shooting an animal and then looking for someone to take it off your hands is wrong in my eyes.
so did he find someone to tag the bucks 
If he offered you the meat and you didn’t want it, are you just killing something for the kill?
Deer hunting success is different to everyone, for some its the love of being outdoors, some its about putting meat in the freezer, for some its the challange of bagging a “trophy “. To some it maybe to reduce the size of the herd.
I think you should enjoy hunting the way you want, and as long as others are playing by the rules, let em do it there way.
Let me understand this. You are complaining about the way the guy who allows you to hunt, hunts? I give away deer each year. I keep a deer to two each year. I have the privilige of permission on several farms, and each of the land owners wants deer taken out. So all I hunt with get multiple tags and we all take multiple deer. I am not against quality management practices, but to critique how someone else is legally hunting, especially if they own the land, takes gall.
the gall of me to EARN the right to hunt on land by working my tail of to make it better for everyone then to have him KILL a nubby and a 6-point just to kill it cuz he didnt want it sorry my bad what was i thinking
the guy bought the land and pays his taxes as long as he did every thing within the law he should be able to do what he wants. and every thing you say you do on that land seems to be for your own gain. do you help the guy out with work he needs done around there?
No need to get angry, you asked what we thought. Some agree, some disagree.
Use our opinions however you like.
I would say if you are that upset by him shooting a buck or two on his own land, you should offer to pay his taxes for a year in exchange for managing the herd like you see fit. If you do that, and he accepts, then and only then will you have a reason to be upset if he shoots ANY deer there legally. Until then, it is his land and his call, IMO.
Tim
15000 for a tractor 500 a year for food plot seed and endless hour of maintance on the land would pay the taxes for a few years
I did not see the post regarding you buying a tractor and working at bettering the land. But…….in my eyes, NO….it does not give you any say in how HE hunts. Bottom line to me is that he owns it, he makes the rules. You do that other stuff, buy stuff, work on stuff, etc…..for the right to hunt that land. If he can still hunt it, it tells me that you do not have the exclusive rights to the land….as he can hunt also. As long as it is his………he makes his own rules to hunt – unless he agreed otherwise previously.
The solution is simple – buy or lease your own land and make/enforce your own rules……. If the current situation is unacceptable, then change it by hunting elsewhere. If you think changing the landowners views is plausible, attempt it……
Tim
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15000 for a tractor 500 a year for food plot seed and endless hour of maintance on the land would pay the taxes for a few years
Another idea for you is this. Find someone out there that has the same interest as you in hunting, maybe doesnt have the same equipment or knowledge of food plots but ultimately has the same goal. You take your tractor and brains to their land and it might be a win win for you and someone else, doesnt sound to me like the current marriage is working out for your goals.
all i wanted to know was if it was wrong for me to be mad about someone land owner or not to shoot deer just for the sake of killing them thats it
I would just talk to him about how it bothered you that he shoot them deer and then tried to find someone to take them. I have nothing to say if he would have found someone to take them before he shot them, but after they are dead, that concerns me. but that is just my .02 worth.
shane
Im in the similar boat you are gut
I have a spot where the land owner is not a hunter for anything; all he is is a gardener 
You name it, he probably has it growing in his backyard. Anyway, deer used to tear up his gardens before he put 7+ foot tall fences up. He gets pissed that deer and turkeys eat his gardens so he shoots them w/ a high powered pellet gun 
I have found remains of turkeys and one or two fawns in his woods, not ethical or legal if you ask me, but i have told him, “you don’t need to shoot the deer, thats why im hunting there” He continues to zing deer in the 
but im not sure about killing them…
That’s all i can do besides calling the game warden which would urine him off, and i would indefinitely lose the right to hunt his great property
I see it as his property, let him do what he wants even if you are burning inside At least you have a spot to hunt which is the best thing 
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I see it as his property, let him do what he wants even if you are burning inside
Boy, that’s the truth right there.
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all i wanted to know was if it was wrong for me to be mad about someone land owner or not to shoot deer just for the sake of killing them thats it
There are plenty of people out there who like to kill deer but do not like to eat venison and there are plenty of people out there that like to eat venison but do not like to kill deer. I know plenty of people and places that will take deer so it does not bother me that the land owner did not have someone lined up ahead of time, there will always be someone that will take a free deer, I have people asking me all the time if they can have a deer if I get an extra one.
I have said this before and I know it is not popular but weather most of us admit it or not IMO the number one reason that most of us deer hunt is not for the venison, yes the venison is a nice bonus from killing a deer but it is not the main reason why most of us hunt. The number one reason why most of us deer hunt is because we love the challenge of the hunt and we love the rush we get from the kill, if we did not get a rush from the kill most of us would not deer hunt.
IMO too many hunters are either lying to non hunters or themselves when they use the excuse that they deer hunt just for meat to be more politically correct and to justify there hunting to the non hunting public. Yes I like venison but even if I could not eat venison I would still deer hunt because I love the hunt and the the rush I get from the kill and there is nothing wrong with that.
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