I am SICK of irresponsible Small Game Hunters!!

I understand the law differently, not only in the book but from the DNR themselves in telephone conversation…page 112, “elevated scaffolds”, they use the phrase..”portable stands is recommended”. I also see they changed the wording from last years book where it was typed something to this effect…”permanent shelters enclosed with roof and sides, blah, blah, are not allowed”. This year they use the wording…”erecting permanent buildings is prohibited”.

I’m not talking WMA’s, SNA’s, NWF’s, etc. MN state land it is LEGAL to construct a stand unless it’s classified WMA etc, etc. Give your friendly game warden or dnr a call, they’ll set it straight, they have for me several years in a row, for a triple check I’ll be contacting the DNR in the morning, I’m expecting them to echo the same thing they told me last thursday…. Building a standard ladder, platform and railings is legal on MN state land unless the land is otherwise classified differently.

P.S…There is no doubt the state is working towards eliminating permanant stands, they have been for years, and every year they change the wording in the book. And, I 100% agree…permanant stands on WMA’s are illegal.

BIRDDOG

MOTR,

I’m sorry to redirect this thread into a treestand issue. The real issue is these small game “hunters” that take either what they’re not supposed to or more than they’re allowed. Sorry to hear about your son’s lost venison!

MOTR,

I’m sorry to redirect this thread into a treestand issue. The real issue is these small game “hunters” that take either what they’re not supposed to or more than they’re allowed. Sorry to hear about your son’s lost venison!

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for a triple check I’ll be contacting the DNR in the morning,

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I did so this afternoon…I talked in length with “Stacy” at the MN DNR info office @ 888-646-6367 regarding the permanant stand/scaffold issue. She pretty much explained it as I reffered to yesterday. They are LEGAL on all state forest land and all other pieces of state land that aren’t otherwise classifed… WMA, SNA, etc, or State parks. The SNA’s NO stands AT ALL, even portables. Federal and WMA removal every evening. Tried to keep up typing over the phone…this pretty much sums up what she had to say. Hope this helps.

BIRDDOG

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for a triple check I’ll be contacting the DNR in the morning,

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I did so this afternoon…I talked in length with “Stacy” at the MN DNR info office @ 888-646-6367 regarding the permanant stand/scaffold issue. She pretty much explained it as I reffered to yesterday. They are LEGAL on all state forest land and all other pieces of state land that aren’t otherwise classifed… WMA, SNA, etc, or State parks. The SNA’s NO stands AT ALL, even portables. Federal and WMA removal every evening. Tried to keep up typing over the phone…this pretty much sums up what she had to say. Hope this helps.

BIRDDOG

Here in Iowa any stand that has nails or anything that helps attach any wood to any tree is not allowed. The dnr here loves portables and nothing else is allowed, they are on private land but not Public land. No semi or permanent stands and thier retainers are left in the trees after hunting seasons over. This keeps the old unaddended stands out of the trees and keeps the timbers clean. Theres pros and cons both ways but I like the law.

Here in Iowa any stand that has nails or anything that helps attach any wood to any tree is not allowed. The dnr here loves portables and nothing else is allowed, they are on private land but not Public land. No semi or permanent stands and thier retainers are left in the trees after hunting seasons over. This keeps the old unaddended stands out of the trees and keeps the timbers clean. Theres pros and cons both ways but I like the law.

I know what you mean too, I don’t like poachers eigther. I shot a deer one time and then walked up to it and it already smelled from gang green, Im glad I put it out of its misery. I know where it probably came from and sometimes I can see the reasoning behind it. The farmers land I was hunting and all the neighboring farms were and still are being hit hard by there being tooo many deer doing damage to thier crops. The farmer I talked too said they tried talking to the dnr into giving them tags to give to hunters but they wouldn’t. They said its hard to get any compensation from the dnr because theres always deer count diffrences between the farmers and the dnr, they said it almost ipossible to get anywhere near the compensation they need to cover thier crops. The last year I hunted the farm he said he lost 1,200 bushels to the deer and he said he got hit hard because hes only planting 180 for his cattle and hogs. The reason why they do this is because if they kill the deer and he goes down right there he has to leave it lay and that plays with the cutters when mowing hay. They do it this way because the deer go back into the woods and die there. IT is bad but its the only way to cull the herd when its already hunted hard and theres still way too many deer every year. Guys that just walk the woods and drive the roads looking for something to shoot at or poaching at night are the ones I don’t like. I had a mega buck real close to my stand that I had been working to get and he was highpowered that winter, they got the guys but the buck was gone from that area and so are his genes. I don’t have much respect for a small cailber hunter driving the local roads looking for an easy headshot thats too lasy to get out of his car and ask permission and even walk to the woods and look and wait. Id turn em in, in a second, especially where the deer numbers are fair or low.

I know what you mean too, I don’t like poachers eigther. I shot a deer one time and then walked up to it and it already smelled from gang green, Im glad I put it out of its misery. I know where it probably came from and sometimes I can see the reasoning behind it. The farmers land I was hunting and all the neighboring farms were and still are being hit hard by there being tooo many deer doing damage to thier crops. The farmer I talked too said they tried talking to the dnr into giving them tags to give to hunters but they wouldn’t. They said its hard to get any compensation from the dnr because theres always deer count diffrences between the farmers and the dnr, they said it almost ipossible to get anywhere near the compensation they need to cover thier crops. The last year I hunted the farm he said he lost 1,200 bushels to the deer and he said he got hit hard because hes only planting 180 for his cattle and hogs. The reason why they do this is because if they kill the deer and he goes down right there he has to leave it lay and that plays with the cutters when mowing hay. They do it this way because the deer go back into the woods and die there. IT is bad but its the only way to cull the herd when its already hunted hard and theres still way too many deer every year. Guys that just walk the woods and drive the roads looking for something to shoot at or poaching at night are the ones I don’t like. I had a mega buck real close to my stand that I had been working to get and he was highpowered that winter, they got the guys but the buck was gone from that area and so are his genes. I don’t have much respect for a small cailber hunter driving the local roads looking for an easy headshot thats too lasy to get out of his car and ask permission and even walk to the woods and look and wait. Id turn em in, in a second, especially where the deer numbers are fair or low.

Shineings still leagl here in Iowa but heres what you have to do. Don’t have anything in the vehicle that could remotely harm a deer, a guy has to research this one befor he turns on a light. They got a guy one time, took him to court and convicted him because he carried a tire iron in his back seat. There was more then likely something else involved but they got the conviction. Lock up everything in the trunk except the carpeting on the floor then its ok here, or it was last year anyway.

Shineings still leagl here in Iowa but heres what you have to do. Don’t have anything in the vehicle that could remotely harm a deer, a guy has to research this one befor he turns on a light. They got a guy one time, took him to court and convicted him because he carried a tire iron in his back seat. There was more then likely something else involved but they got the conviction. Lock up everything in the trunk except the carpeting on the floor then its ok here, or it was last year anyway.