Baiting Deer in MN (Water)

Here’s a stupid question (or is there no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people that ask them).

Is water considered baiting in MN? There is nothing that says anything in the rule books but I have a hard time believing that a cow tub of water 20 yards from your stand would be ok by the guy wearing green. Or could you even feel right doing it if it was legal??? I couldn’t do it myself. I’m just curious because with as dry as it is around and the ponds turning to mud, this thought came to my mind and probably to others as well. Thoughts??

Just tell him it is for your horse… when he asks “what horse?”… look around you and say “oh, crap… lost another one”…

Just tell him it is for your horse… when he asks “what horse?”… look around you and say “oh, crap… lost another one”…

HUH………..never thought of that one. I think the regs speak nothing of water.

A guy could email the DNR and ask.

HUH………..never thought of that one. I think the regs speak nothing of water.

A guy could email the DNR and ask.

That’s too funny! Lol!!
Good question though looking forward to hearing some intrepations of the laws, if legal, i too would have a hard time, but if i hade water hole dug on my property and they were dry?? Tough call.

That’s too funny! Lol!!
Good question though looking forward to hearing some intrepations of the laws, if legal, i too would have a hard time, but if i hade water hole dug on my property and they were dry?? Tough call.

Here is the regs on baiting.

Hunting Method Restri ctions
Bait
• Liquid scents, salt, and minerals are not considered bait, unless they
contain other foods defined below as bait.
• “Bait” is grain, fruit, vegetables, nuts, hay, or other food that is capable
of attracting or enticing deer and that has been transported and placed
by a person.
• This restriction
does not apply to foods resulting from normal
or accepted
farming, forest management,
wildlife food plantings, orchard management,
or similar land management
activities.
• The restriction does not apply to a person hunting on their own property,
when the person has not participated in, been involved with, or
agreed to feeding wildlife on adjacent land owned by another person.
• Hunters are not allowed to use bait or hunt in the vicinity of bait that
the hunter knows about or has reason to know about or hunt in the
vicinity where bait has been placed within the previous ten days.

I think you would be good

Here is the regs on baiting.

Hunting Method Restri ctions
Bait
• Liquid scents, salt, and minerals are not considered bait, unless they
contain other foods defined below as bait.
• “Bait” is grain, fruit, vegetables, nuts, hay, or other food that is capable
of attracting or enticing deer and that has been transported and placed
by a person.
• This restriction
does not apply to foods resulting from normal
or accepted
farming, forest management,
wildlife food plantings, orchard management,
or similar land management
activities.
• The restriction does not apply to a person hunting on their own property,
when the person has not participated in, been involved with, or
agreed to feeding wildlife on adjacent land owned by another person.
• Hunters are not allowed to use bait or hunt in the vicinity of bait that
the hunter knows about or has reason to know about or hunt in the
vicinity where bait has been placed within the previous ten days.

I think you would be good

Key words:

enticing deer and that has been transported and placed
by a person.

Key words:

enticing deer and that has been transported and placed
by a person.

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Key words:

enticing deer and that has been transported and placed
by a person.

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I was going to point out the same thing.

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Key words:

enticing deer and that has been transported and placed
by a person.

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I was going to point out the same thing.

That’s a great point. But,I think you need to include the whole sentence and not just bits of it. If you look, it’s only referencing “food” here.

““Bait” is grain, fruit, vegetables, nuts, hay, or other food that is capable
of attracting or enticing deer and that has been transported and placed by a person.”

So do you think water is considered food? That’s one of the questions I have.

That’s a great point. But,I think you need to include the whole sentence and not just bits of it. If you look, it’s only referencing “food” here.

““Bait” is grain, fruit, vegetables, nuts, hay, or other food that is capable
of attracting or enticing deer and that has been transported and placed by a person.”

So do you think water is considered food? That’s one of the questions I have.

My opinion is that water is not food and would legally be ok, just my opinion.

Ok, something has had me wondering for the last few years and there is no better place to ask your guy’s opinion then in this thread. What about all these Buck Brans, Buck Grub, Acorn Rage, etc. that are on the market??? I would think that these fall into this ‘BAIT” category, yet every where you look, you see them in the stores????? What is the legality of these types of bait?? They are just crushed grains, corn, oats, acrons, etc placed out by people to attract deer???

Any opinions?

My opinion is that water is not food and would legally be ok, just my opinion.

Ok, something has had me wondering for the last few years and there is no better place to ask your guy’s opinion then in this thread. What about all these Buck Brans, Buck Grub, Acorn Rage, etc. that are on the market??? I would think that these fall into this ‘BAIT” category, yet every where you look, you see them in the stores????? What is the legality of these types of bait?? They are just crushed grains, corn, oats, acrons, etc placed out by people to attract deer???

Any opinions?

I agree with you Walleye and Lip. I do not think of water as a “Food”. However it is needed to sustain life so I could see that viewpoint as well.

Lip that is a tough ? if you think about it a well placed food plot is a bait. It is not natural and is grown for one reason and that is not to be harvested for gain.

I am still a little unsure about using food baits. I have used Deer Co-caine a lot and that stuff really does work. But there again I am pretty sure that to is a bait . I can tell you from experience that the deer love it.

As far as using food baits like grains and what have you I have no experience using it.

I agree with you Walleye and Lip. I do not think of water as a “Food”. However it is needed to sustain life so I could see that viewpoint as well.

Lip that is a tough ? if you think about it a well placed food plot is a bait. It is not natural and is grown for one reason and that is not to be harvested for gain.

I am still a little unsure about using food baits. I have used Deer Co-caine a lot and that stuff really does work. But there again I am pretty sure that to is a bait . I can tell you from experience that the deer love it.

As far as using food baits like grains and what have you I have no experience using it.

The stores can sell them legally. You just can’t hunt legally over them. It would be baiting.

dd

The stores can sell them legally. You just can’t hunt legally over them. It would be baiting.

dd

I consider all those bait. You can use them for your home or during off season to keep deer on your property, but if i was a warden i would write a ticket. Just my opinion though.

I consider all those bait. You can use them for your home or during off season to keep deer on your property, but if i was a warden i would write a ticket. Just my opinion though.

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I consider all those bait. You can use them for your home or during off season to keep deer on your property, but if i was a warden i would write a ticket. Just my opinion though.

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Even the Deer Co Caine? I think it is cosidered a mineral? I dont think it contains any “Bait” as listed per the DNR?

And water too???

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I consider all those bait. You can use them for your home or during off season to keep deer on your property, but if i was a warden i would write a ticket. Just my opinion though.

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Even the Deer Co Caine? I think it is cosidered a mineral? I dont think it contains any “Bait” as listed per the DNR?

And water too???

I think food plots get the ok from this statement.

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This restriction

does not apply to foods resulting from normal

or accepted

farming, forest management,

wildlife food plantings, orchard management,

or similar land management

activities.

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I tend to think Deer Cocaine more as a mineral and would be accpetable. I just threw a few / poured them into the ground this past week.

But Buck Bran, Acorn Rage (new),Buck Grub, & etc. are just powederized Grains, Oats, acorns, etc. and to me would be ILLEGAL to place out in MN. Yet every store you see in MN sells them?????

I think food plots get the ok from this statement.

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This restriction

does not apply to foods resulting from normal

or accepted

farming, forest management,

wildlife food plantings, orchard management,

or similar land management

activities.

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I tend to think Deer Cocaine more as a mineral and would be accpetable. I just threw a few / poured them into the ground this past week.

But Buck Bran, Acorn Rage (new),Buck Grub, & etc. are just powederized Grains, Oats, acorns, etc. and to me would be ILLEGAL to place out in MN. Yet every store you see in MN sells them?????

I agree with you 100% on this one Lip.

I hunt WI and you can bait there. The farmers I hunt with there see no problems with it. But for me personaly I think tossing out 100 pounds of Buck grub 50 yards from your stand is cheating in my mind.

I think it is rung in my head from growing up that minerals and food plots are ok. But dropping a bushel of corn in a well selected area is not ok. Just my $.02

I agree with you 100% on this one Lip.

I hunt WI and you can bait there. The farmers I hunt with there see no problems with it. But for me personaly I think tossing out 100 pounds of Buck grub 50 yards from your stand is cheating in my mind.

I think it is rung in my head from growing up that minerals and food plots are ok. But dropping a bushel of corn in a well selected area is not ok. Just my $.02

I think we are all on the same page here…. We (as IDA members) should recruite a DNR officer that could help us understand meanings of not only this rule but may other vauge rules in the book. There has to be a few wardens out there that would be happy to join our little family here! So many times I think DNR officers can interpet the rules in their minds as they wish and depending on your attitude you take with them effects the outcome.