MN DNR firearms deer season changes

  • mike_utley
    Zumbrota, MN
    Posts: 578
    #32828

    I had read a little about this and now it’s official. It will be interesting to see what people in the SE part of the state think and just how much success there really is. Fall can vary greatly this time of year. Certainly there will be crops everywhere, making things a bit more difficult than usual for a firearms hunt.

    As a bow hunter, I will say I’m not excited about this, but glad it’s not in my zone.

    This will get discussions going for certain.

    mike_utley
    Zumbrota, MN
    Posts: 578
    #588767

    I had read a little about this and now it’s official. It will be interesting to see what people in the SE part of the state think and just how much success there really is. Fall can vary greatly this time of year. Certainly there will be crops everywhere, making things a bit more difficult than usual for a firearms hunt.

    As a bow hunter, I will say I’m not excited about this, but glad it’s not in my zone.

    This will get discussions going for certain.

    predator2 jr
    rochester,mn
    Posts: 448
    #32829

    its only 2 days boys and don’t bow hunters get like 100 and some odd days to where a gun hunter gets 7???

    predator2 jr
    rochester,mn
    Posts: 448
    #588905

    its only 2 days boys and don’t bow hunters get like 100 and some odd days to where a gun hunter gets 7???

    gregh
    s.e. minn
    Posts: 642
    #32831

    Quote:


    its only 2 days boys and don’t bow hunters get like 100 and some odd days to where a gun hunter gets 7???


    Its 2 more days with gun hunters then I care to have!! Now we get watch out for all the dorks in orange in October……………..Great.

    gregh
    s.e. minn
    Posts: 642
    #588983

    Quote:


    its only 2 days boys and don’t bow hunters get like 100 and some odd days to where a gun hunter gets 7???


    Its 2 more days with gun hunters then I care to have!! Now we get watch out for all the dorks in orange in October……………..Great.

    rvrat
    st cloud,mn
    Posts: 1571
    #32832

    I havent looked at it too close yet but my land is in 221 and if I understand the regs, a gun hunter could shoot 7 deer this year??? Thats with mngmt take, early season etc…I shot one deer in my life with reg firearms and hunted every year with bow since I was 13…I guess it comes down that we, archery guys get spoiled not having all the people in the woods around us…not sayin I like it at all but I guess Ill have to live with it.

    rvrat
    st cloud,mn
    Posts: 1571
    #588996

    I havent looked at it too close yet but my land is in 221 and if I understand the regs, a gun hunter could shoot 7 deer this year??? Thats with mngmt take, early season etc…I shot one deer in my life with reg firearms and hunted every year with bow since I was 13…I guess it comes down that we, archery guys get spoiled not having all the people in the woods around us…not sayin I like it at all but I guess Ill have to live with it.

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #32836

    I do both archey and firearms seasons. However, Archey hunting is my passion. It is not the 2 extra days (like mentioned above) that bothers me and gets me , it is holding this extra season right before prime deer hunting.

    IMO it educates all those deer and puts them on high alert right at the best time of the year and I even believe that trickles down to reduce the deer movement and deer sightings on Rifle opener, which reduces overall harvest of all deer, IMO. I am all for the Mangement sutff and if we need to harvest more antlerless deer, that is fine with me. But, why can’t this season be after the regular firearms season???? or perhaps during the Muzzle loader season or Thanksgiving weekend???

    In SD, that is how they hold their extra anterless season. The extra anterless season starts actually over a month later after their rifle season.

    Just my $.02

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #589098

    I do both archey and firearms seasons. However, Archey hunting is my passion. It is not the 2 extra days (like mentioned above) that bothers me and gets me , it is holding this extra season right before prime deer hunting.

    IMO it educates all those deer and puts them on high alert right at the best time of the year and I even believe that trickles down to reduce the deer movement and deer sightings on Rifle opener, which reduces overall harvest of all deer, IMO. I am all for the Mangement sutff and if we need to harvest more antlerless deer, that is fine with me. But, why can’t this season be after the regular firearms season???? or perhaps during the Muzzle loader season or Thanksgiving weekend???

    In SD, that is how they hold their extra anterless season. The extra anterless season starts actually over a month later after their rifle season.

    Just my $.02

    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #32839

    I agree as well although down here in SE MN we do not have to deal with the early season i do not beleieve. I would like to see these seasons if anything
    archery :Sept. 1st till end of year
    Firearm:Nov 17th till Nov. 23rd
    LATE Season managment- Dec 21st till Dec 24th
    muzzlelader:nov 24th till Dec 16th
    I honestly feel if they wanna manage the herd than get them after all the grain is harvested and they are out more to feed due to the cold. The only issue might possibly be deer shedding there antlers to early before the managment season were to start. Plus the cold weather weeds out the dumb ‘s.
    Plus without a doubt would make chances at a trophy class deer MUCH MUCH better for everyone! It is sad to see the deer registration stations down here during 3A season. It is during the peak of the rut most years and the amount of 1 1/2 old deer harvested is quite scary. This area has the recipe to grow MONSTER deer with all the grain fields along with vast amount of cover available to the deer in the hill regions. I personally do not gun hunt very much but do with my all seasons tag and could shoot MANY STUPID bucks in the 1 1/2 year class because they are after one thing only than and nothing will stop them without a doubt! These young bucks have not had the presure of gun season while wearing a rack and get some “tail” on there mind and it is light sout. The DNR has been told countless times to change it but I honestly beleieve there is ONE reason they won’t. Non-Resident tags for people coming from WI over to hunt here for firearms season.

    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #589183

    I agree as well although down here in SE MN we do not have to deal with the early season i do not beleieve. I would like to see these seasons if anything
    archery :Sept. 1st till end of year
    Firearm:Nov 17th till Nov. 23rd
    LATE Season managment- Dec 21st till Dec 24th
    muzzlelader:nov 24th till Dec 16th
    I honestly feel if they wanna manage the herd than get them after all the grain is harvested and they are out more to feed due to the cold. The only issue might possibly be deer shedding there antlers to early before the managment season were to start. Plus the cold weather weeds out the dumb ‘s.
    Plus without a doubt would make chances at a trophy class deer MUCH MUCH better for everyone! It is sad to see the deer registration stations down here during 3A season. It is during the peak of the rut most years and the amount of 1 1/2 old deer harvested is quite scary. This area has the recipe to grow MONSTER deer with all the grain fields along with vast amount of cover available to the deer in the hill regions. I personally do not gun hunt very much but do with my all seasons tag and could shoot MANY STUPID bucks in the 1 1/2 year class because they are after one thing only than and nothing will stop them without a doubt! These young bucks have not had the presure of gun season while wearing a rack and get some “tail” on there mind and it is light sout. The DNR has been told countless times to change it but I honestly beleieve there is ONE reason they won’t. Non-Resident tags for people coming from WI over to hunt here for firearms season.

    pahaarstad
    metro
    Posts: 712
    #32842

    I to would like to see the season be later. I hunt in zone 4. The last few few years have been way to hot the frist weekend and the corn still up. I also see why too many 1 1/2 been taken. With the help of the all season tags That number has started to go down. With the all season tag we get a longer season. So people are more willing to waiting to see a bigger rack come by. Before with just having one weekend most guys were if its brown its down. If the DNR want more early season doe hunting I think they should have more open youth hunts. Not just state parks but area wide.

    just my .02 cents

    pahaarstad
    metro
    Posts: 712
    #589212

    I to would like to see the season be later. I hunt in zone 4. The last few few years have been way to hot the frist weekend and the corn still up. I also see why too many 1 1/2 been taken. With the help of the all season tags That number has started to go down. With the all season tag we get a longer season. So people are more willing to waiting to see a bigger rack come by. Before with just having one weekend most guys were if its brown its down. If the DNR want more early season doe hunting I think they should have more open youth hunts. Not just state parks but area wide.

    just my .02 cents

    Hunting4Walleyes
    MN
    Posts: 1552
    #32843

    Quote:


    It is not the 2 extra days (like mentioned above) that bothers me and gets me , it is holding this extra season right before prime deer hunting.


    I agree 100%. The other sucky thing is, it is also on Pheasant opener I think. I usually go out pheasant hunting on opener with some buddies down by Spring Grove. I guess we have to watch out for flying slugs too. Like Lip said there are much better times to have this. I say we have a January hunt. We could deer hunt in the morning and do a little ice fishing during mid day and then back to the stand for the evening run.

    Hunting4Walleyes
    MN
    Posts: 1552
    #589332

    Quote:


    It is not the 2 extra days (like mentioned above) that bothers me and gets me , it is holding this extra season right before prime deer hunting.


    I agree 100%. The other sucky thing is, it is also on Pheasant opener I think. I usually go out pheasant hunting on opener with some buddies down by Spring Grove. I guess we have to watch out for flying slugs too. Like Lip said there are much better times to have this. I say we have a January hunt. We could deer hunt in the morning and do a little ice fishing during mid day and then back to the stand for the evening run.

    gregh
    s.e. minn
    Posts: 642
    #32844

    Quote:


    I agree as well although down here in SE MN we do not have to deal with the early season i do not beleieve. I would like to see these seasons if anything
    archery :Sept. 1st till end of year
    Firearm:Nov 17th till Nov. 23rd
    LATE Season managment- Dec 21st till Dec 24th
    muzzlelader:nov 24th till Dec 16th
    I honestly feel if they wanna manage the herd than get them after all the grain is harvested and they are out more to feed due to the cold. The only issue might possibly be deer shedding there antlers to early before the managment season were to start. Plus the cold weather weeds out the dumb ‘s.
    Plus without a doubt would make chances at a trophy class deer MUCH MUCH better for everyone! It is sad to see the deer registration stations down here during 3A season. It is during the peak of the rut most years and the amount of 1 1/2 old deer harvested is quite scary. This area has the recipe to grow MONSTER deer with all the grain fields along with vast amount of cover available to the deer in the hill regions. I personally do not gun hunt very much but do with my all seasons tag and could shoot MANY STUPID bucks in the 1 1/2 year class because they are after one thing only than and nothing will stop them without a doubt! These young bucks have not had the presure of gun season while wearing a rack and get some “tail” on there mind and it is light sout. The DNR has been told countless times to change it but I honestly beleieve there is ONE reason they won’t. Non-Resident tags for people coming from WI over to hunt here for firearms season.


    Didn’t you shoot a 1 1/2 yr old last year?????? Talks cheap.

    gregh
    s.e. minn
    Posts: 642
    #589403

    Quote:


    I agree as well although down here in SE MN we do not have to deal with the early season i do not beleieve. I would like to see these seasons if anything
    archery :Sept. 1st till end of year
    Firearm:Nov 17th till Nov. 23rd
    LATE Season managment- Dec 21st till Dec 24th
    muzzlelader:nov 24th till Dec 16th
    I honestly feel if they wanna manage the herd than get them after all the grain is harvested and they are out more to feed due to the cold. The only issue might possibly be deer shedding there antlers to early before the managment season were to start. Plus the cold weather weeds out the dumb ‘s.
    Plus without a doubt would make chances at a trophy class deer MUCH MUCH better for everyone! It is sad to see the deer registration stations down here during 3A season. It is during the peak of the rut most years and the amount of 1 1/2 old deer harvested is quite scary. This area has the recipe to grow MONSTER deer with all the grain fields along with vast amount of cover available to the deer in the hill regions. I personally do not gun hunt very much but do with my all seasons tag and could shoot MANY STUPID bucks in the 1 1/2 year class because they are after one thing only than and nothing will stop them without a doubt! These young bucks have not had the presure of gun season while wearing a rack and get some “tail” on there mind and it is light sout. The DNR has been told countless times to change it but I honestly beleieve there is ONE reason they won’t. Non-Resident tags for people coming from WI over to hunt here for firearms season.


    Didn’t you shoot a 1 1/2 yr old last year?????? Talks cheap.

    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #32845

    nope 2 1/2 year old actually. Shot 2 in my life 3 years ago and 6 years ago that would age out at 1 1/2 I believe and have now changed my managment practices to improve our hunting area. Just saying my opinion I would like to see the date moved back to help harvesting younger buck. In the past 3 years out of the group of 4 I hunt with around my home we have shot only 7 bucks (excluding a young crippled archery buck having an arrow in his lower rear knees 2 years ago) and 37 does with 2 being a 1 1/2 year old 3 years ago till our group and neighboring owners came together and decided to start manageing the area after being advised from the DNR about a buck to doe ratio in serious condition due to harvest of many young bucks on near by state land. Now it is a rule we must guess them to be 3 1/2 old or older and I made a miss judgement last year with the deer I shot due to first light conditions/bad judgement to find out he was only a 110″-120″ 2 1/2 year old my bad. I felt the need to explain myself since in the past we followed a different mind set of deer hunting and the fact i just didnt need to hear any sh$* from ya.

    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #589466

    nope 2 1/2 year old actually. Shot 2 in my life 3 years ago and 6 years ago that would age out at 1 1/2 I believe and have now changed my managment practices to improve our hunting area. Just saying my opinion I would like to see the date moved back to help harvesting younger buck. In the past 3 years out of the group of 4 I hunt with around my home we have shot only 7 bucks (excluding a young crippled archery buck having an arrow in his lower rear knees 2 years ago) and 37 does with 2 being a 1 1/2 year old 3 years ago till our group and neighboring owners came together and decided to start manageing the area after being advised from the DNR about a buck to doe ratio in serious condition due to harvest of many young bucks on near by state land. Now it is a rule we must guess them to be 3 1/2 old or older and I made a miss judgement last year with the deer I shot due to first light conditions/bad judgement to find out he was only a 110″-120″ 2 1/2 year old my bad. I felt the need to explain myself since in the past we followed a different mind set of deer hunting and the fact i just didnt need to hear any sh$* from ya.

    gregh
    s.e. minn
    Posts: 642
    #32855

    Quote:


    nope 2 1/2 year old actually. Shot 2 in my life 3 years ago and 6 years ago that would age out at 1 1/2 I believe and have now changed my managment practices to improve our hunting area. Just saying my opinion I would like to see the date moved back to help harvesting younger buck. In the past 3 years out of the group of 4 I hunt with around my home we have shot only 7 bucks (excluding a young crippled archery buck having an arrow in his lower rear knees 2 years ago) and 37 does with 2 being a 1 1/2 year old 3 years ago till our group and neighboring owners came together and decided to start manageing the area after being advised from the DNR about a buck to doe ratio in serious condition due to harvest of many young bucks on near by state land. Now it is a rule we must guess them to be 3 1/2 old or older and I made a miss judgement last year with the deer I shot due to first light conditions/bad judgement to find out he was only a 110″-120″ 2 1/2 year old my bad. I felt the need to explain myself since in the past we followed a different mind set of deer hunting and the fact i just didnt need to hear any sh$* from ya.


    Do you realy think that last year buck would measure out to 110-120??. I’m not giving ya any sh*#, just making sure your walking the walk and not just talkin’.

    gregh
    s.e. minn
    Posts: 642
    #589768

    Quote:


    nope 2 1/2 year old actually. Shot 2 in my life 3 years ago and 6 years ago that would age out at 1 1/2 I believe and have now changed my managment practices to improve our hunting area. Just saying my opinion I would like to see the date moved back to help harvesting younger buck. In the past 3 years out of the group of 4 I hunt with around my home we have shot only 7 bucks (excluding a young crippled archery buck having an arrow in his lower rear knees 2 years ago) and 37 does with 2 being a 1 1/2 year old 3 years ago till our group and neighboring owners came together and decided to start manageing the area after being advised from the DNR about a buck to doe ratio in serious condition due to harvest of many young bucks on near by state land. Now it is a rule we must guess them to be 3 1/2 old or older and I made a miss judgement last year with the deer I shot due to first light conditions/bad judgement to find out he was only a 110″-120″ 2 1/2 year old my bad. I felt the need to explain myself since in the past we followed a different mind set of deer hunting and the fact i just didnt need to hear any sh$* from ya.


    Do you realy think that last year buck would measure out to 110-120??. I’m not giving ya any sh*#, just making sure your walking the walk and not just talkin’.

    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #32856

    Actually it did measure out at the taxidermist between 110 and 120″ thanks to tine length it is somewhere between i will find the offical papers somewhere once I get everything unpacked from moving in to the new house this week I am going by everything I was told by the taxidermist who did the european mount for me.

    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #589770

    Actually it did measure out at the taxidermist between 110 and 120″ thanks to tine length it is somewhere between i will find the offical papers somewhere once I get everything unpacked from moving in to the new house this week I am going by everything I was told by the taxidermist who did the european mount for me.

    Hunting4Walleyes
    MN
    Posts: 1552
    #32860

    Hey Erick I think part of SE Mn has to deal with the early season. I saw that zones 346 and 349 are going to be in the early hunt. These are the two most southeastern zones in the state. Unfortunately it is right where I go opening pheasant hunting.

    Hunting4Walleyes
    MN
    Posts: 1552
    #589833

    Hey Erick I think part of SE Mn has to deal with the early season. I saw that zones 346 and 349 are going to be in the early hunt. These are the two most southeastern zones in the state. Unfortunately it is right where I go opening pheasant hunting.

    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #32864

    Wow I did not hear about that atleast it is not in 347 I guess I honestly do not see how it can do a lot though with a lot of corn still in than still. Although that far east might have less crops than around the Forestville State Park area I hunt and zone 467 regions I hunt so maybe early season would be better in those 2 areas. i would assume overall people would rather see it later for archery hunters? Unless it is just me i guess.

    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #589868

    Wow I did not hear about that atleast it is not in 347 I guess I honestly do not see how it can do a lot though with a lot of corn still in than still. Although that far east might have less crops than around the Forestville State Park area I hunt and zone 467 regions I hunt so maybe early season would be better in those 2 areas. i would assume overall people would rather see it later for archery hunters? Unless it is just me i guess.

    mike_utley
    Zumbrota, MN
    Posts: 578
    #32866

    Lip – makes mention of putting the deer on alert. I guess we’ll see in 346 and 349 what the comments are from the regular gun and archery hunters in those area’s.

    I will say this, I hunted the week between the two seasons 3A and 3B last year. Saw several deer on the move each day, all day long. I attribute that mostly to the peak of the rut and only wonder how many more deer might have still been on the move if there hadn’t already been the 3A season. I’m guessing it might take a few days after that early season for things to settle down again.

    I really question the effectiveness of the season since most farmers are not harvesting any amount of corn this early in October. I know the land I hunt in 347 never is harvested before the last week in October.

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