muzzy performance in cold

  • Tbone
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 178
    #198601

    Does the sabot slug perform different in the real cold we had last weekend? I had mine sighted in with pretty tight groups at 75 yards and after missing 3 shots at 30 yards I went to the range and couldn’t hit a paper plate at 30 yards , but I was right on the money at 10 yards. Does the cold affect the platic sleeve on the sabot and make them fly all over? I don’t get this, can someone help here?

    big_dog_ia
    Omaha, Ne
    Posts: 180
    #12929

    what are you shooting for a gun, bullets (grain) and powder?

    was your gun clean?

    I did some shooting/hunting this past weekend. Omaha.

    Cold here too. Shooting 45 cal. CVA, powerbelt bullets 195gr. 100 grains of pyrodex powder (pellets). Cold didn’t seem to affect performance. I shot 6 times and then cleaned.

    big_dog_ia
    Omaha, Ne
    Posts: 180
    #401343

    what are you shooting for a gun, bullets (grain) and powder?

    was your gun clean?

    I did some shooting/hunting this past weekend. Omaha.

    Cold here too. Shooting 45 cal. CVA, powerbelt bullets 195gr. 100 grains of pyrodex powder (pellets). Cold didn’t seem to affect performance. I shot 6 times and then cleaned.

    derek_johnston
    On the water- Minnesota
    Posts: 5022
    #12930

    My buddy shot a 8 pointer with his first muzzy. He has a gun that uses pre-fabed powder packets. He said it works slick and the performance was awesome in the cold.

    derek_johnston
    On the water- Minnesota
    Posts: 5022
    #401346

    My buddy shot a 8 pointer with his first muzzy. He has a gun that uses pre-fabed powder packets. He said it works slick and the performance was awesome in the cold.

    Tbone
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 178
    #12931

    I am shooting a T/C omega with 240 grain sabots and 100 grains of triple 7. The gun was clean before the first shot. I don’t get why I can be right on at 10 yards and be off a paper plate at 30 yards.

    Tbone
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 178
    #401356

    I am shooting a T/C omega with 240 grain sabots and 100 grains of triple 7. The gun was clean before the first shot. I don’t get why I can be right on at 10 yards and be off a paper plate at 30 yards.

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #12932

    T-Bone, did you try cleaning the gun and shooting it again. When I was sighting mine in, it shot better after each cleaning. I shot a doe the other night when it was 7 degrees out, hit her dead on.

    It was 2 degrees this weekend when my dad shot a nice buck. He hit right where he was aiming also. Both these were on a clean barrel though.

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #401358

    T-Bone, did you try cleaning the gun and shooting it again. When I was sighting mine in, it shot better after each cleaning. I shot a doe the other night when it was 7 degrees out, hit her dead on.

    It was 2 degrees this weekend when my dad shot a nice buck. He hit right where he was aiming also. Both these were on a clean barrel though.

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #12933

    We posted at the same time. Which way are you off and what are you shooting off of when you are sighting it in?

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #401359

    We posted at the same time. Which way are you off and what are you shooting off of when you are sighting it in?

    chuckles
    Manchester, Iowa
    Posts: 427
    #12934

    One of the things which can affect accuracy in muzzys at any time is keeping the barrel cleaned between shots. After every shot you should clean it… this way it simulates the condition your muzzy should be in when taking it hunting (clean bore). Other than that I have killed deer below zero with muzzys on many occasions… the other thing to keep in mind is after cleaning and before hunting is to keep the muzzy cold – don’t allow it to be heated up as condensation can occur – which can cause misfire, hangfire, or poor ignition.

    Also theoretically – the shot should be high at 30 and 50 yards to have the trajectory dropping back down towards the bullseye at 75-100 yards – part of it just depends at where you sight it in at. Chuckles

    chuckles
    Manchester, Iowa
    Posts: 427
    #401363

    One of the things which can affect accuracy in muzzys at any time is keeping the barrel cleaned between shots. After every shot you should clean it… this way it simulates the condition your muzzy should be in when taking it hunting (clean bore). Other than that I have killed deer below zero with muzzys on many occasions… the other thing to keep in mind is after cleaning and before hunting is to keep the muzzy cold – don’t allow it to be heated up as condensation can occur – which can cause misfire, hangfire, or poor ignition.

    Also theoretically – the shot should be high at 30 and 50 yards to have the trajectory dropping back down towards the bullseye at 75-100 yards – part of it just depends at where you sight it in at. Chuckles

    Tbone
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 178
    #12936

    When shooting at the deer I was using the tree as a rest. At the range I was shooting free hand. At 10 yards I was 1/4″ high on the paper plate with a quarter sized dot. At 30 yards I didn’t even hit the paper plate so I don’t know where I was. The gun was clean before the first shot and was kept outside in the barn all weekend. The 10 yard shot was my very last shot of 7 (only 3 at deer). I ran out of bullets, so I’ll be back at the range tonight until I get it figured out. I think I might stay away from sabot slugs and resight in with T/C maxi hunter bullets.

    Tbone
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 178
    #401366

    When shooting at the deer I was using the tree as a rest. At the range I was shooting free hand. At 10 yards I was 1/4″ high on the paper plate with a quarter sized dot. At 30 yards I didn’t even hit the paper plate so I don’t know where I was. The gun was clean before the first shot and was kept outside in the barn all weekend. The 10 yard shot was my very last shot of 7 (only 3 at deer). I ran out of bullets, so I’ll be back at the range tonight until I get it figured out. I think I might stay away from sabot slugs and resight in with T/C maxi hunter bullets.

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #12937

    I shoot the Powerbelt 250 Grain hollow points. They seem to be very accurate and were recommended by a good source.

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #401369

    I shoot the Powerbelt 250 Grain hollow points. They seem to be very accurate and were recommended by a good source.

    Tbone
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 178
    #12939

    Scott, thanks for the help, I’ll give them a try also.

    Tbone
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 178
    #401372

    Scott, thanks for the help, I’ll give them a try also.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22529
    #12950

    here’s a really neat trick a buddy told me about for swabbing after each shot at the range or in the field. put a swab in your mouth while shooting, after the shot, run it down the muzzle with the ramrod and jag tool on, at the bottom, give it a twist and pull out. then run a dry one down after that, twist, and walla !!! this works great when shooting 777. they recommend cleaning with tap water anyways, and it really tightened my groups up at the range. now i just need the bigboy to come in range !!!

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    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22529
    #401415

    here’s a really neat trick a buddy told me about for swabbing after each shot at the range or in the field. put a swab in your mouth while shooting, after the shot, run it down the muzzle with the ramrod and jag tool on, at the bottom, give it a twist and pull out. then run a dry one down after that, twist, and walla !!! this works great when shooting 777. they recommend cleaning with tap water anyways, and it really tightened my groups up at the range. now i just need the bigboy to come in range !!!

    g

    bass423
    Oregon, WI
    Posts: 152
    #12955

    I will echo the recommendation for the PowerBelt slugs. They work great and are very accurate in my T/C.

    bass423
    Oregon, WI
    Posts: 152
    #401444

    I will echo the recommendation for the PowerBelt slugs. They work great and are very accurate in my T/C.

    Tbone
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 178
    #12974

    I got some of the powerbelt bullets last night, and I also got some T/C maxi hunter 350 grain bullets. With this larger bullet should I up my powder to 150 grains or stay with the 100 grain charge. I am going to be at the range again tonight and will try both, but wanted any opinions from people who have shot these larger slugs. I know that with the 240 grain sabots the 150 grains of powder made my gun less accurate, but I am worried about losing too much speed with an extra 110 grains of lead. Thanks again for the help gentlemen.

    Tbone
    Stillwater, MN
    Posts: 178
    #401549

    I got some of the powerbelt bullets last night, and I also got some T/C maxi hunter 350 grain bullets. With this larger bullet should I up my powder to 150 grains or stay with the 100 grain charge. I am going to be at the range again tonight and will try both, but wanted any opinions from people who have shot these larger slugs. I know that with the 240 grain sabots the 150 grains of powder made my gun less accurate, but I am worried about losing too much speed with an extra 110 grains of lead. Thanks again for the help gentlemen.

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #12975

    100 Grains of 777 should be fine according to what I have read. I am no expert by any means, but have had good look shooting accurate with mine so far with the setup I am using.

    scottsteil
    Central MN
    Posts: 3817
    #401554

    100 Grains of 777 should be fine according to what I have read. I am no expert by any means, but have had good look shooting accurate with mine so far with the setup I am using.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22529
    #12978

    T-Bone, i would try it at the range and see what 150 does with the heavier slug. there are so many variables, which you can control somewhat. when i bought my muzzy, the thing the salesman tried to pound into my head was, get a bullet weight, powder amount, established at the range, that you are comfortable with, clean after each shot, and you should have that transfer to confidence in the field. he told me, its like shooting a bow with 100 broadheads all summer, then switching to 125 when you hunt. practice what you will be taking to the field. nothing wrong with experimenting at the range though !!! sounds like you had her dialed in though, who knows what happened. like was said earlier, i leave my muzzy in the garage the night before, and run a dry swab through before loading, to get any condensation that might have formed. good luck !!!

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    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22529
    #401559

    T-Bone, i would try it at the range and see what 150 does with the heavier slug. there are so many variables, which you can control somewhat. when i bought my muzzy, the thing the salesman tried to pound into my head was, get a bullet weight, powder amount, established at the range, that you are comfortable with, clean after each shot, and you should have that transfer to confidence in the field. he told me, its like shooting a bow with 100 broadheads all summer, then switching to 125 when you hunt. practice what you will be taking to the field. nothing wrong with experimenting at the range though !!! sounds like you had her dialed in though, who knows what happened. like was said earlier, i leave my muzzy in the garage the night before, and run a dry swab through before loading, to get any condensation that might have formed. good luck !!!

    g

    big_dog_ia
    Omaha, Ne
    Posts: 180
    #12979

    T-bone
    the paper inside the powerbelts package unfolds and gives you ballistics for both 45 and 50 cal. with either load of 100 grains powder or 150 grains of powder. Gives you an idea of what to expect at yardage for sighting/shooting and also energy foot pounds and velocity for each grain of bullet. each gun is different, but its a ballpark figure.

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