What can you do?

  • jerry_ruffolo
    Manitowoc, WI
    Posts: 183
    #398256

    Educate, educate, educate…….and if all else fails, educate some more. There are tons of examples of how it’s being done right. Keep at it Slop……and good luck.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #12388

    Sorry for my ignorance…

    It’s amazing that in a long blink of an eye (30 years) we’ve gone from bucks only, where lots of luck was involved in putting the venison in the freezer to todays Quality Deer Management. Which I gather means thin the herd of does.

    It’s a great time to be alive!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #398257

    Sorry for my ignorance…

    It’s amazing that in a long blink of an eye (30 years) we’ve gone from bucks only, where lots of luck was involved in putting the venison in the freezer to todays Quality Deer Management. Which I gather means thin the herd of does.

    It’s a great time to be alive!

    mossboss
    La Crescent, MN
    Posts: 2792
    #12390

    Brian and anyone else interested:

    Here is a link that describes the differences in management philosophies. I think many practice a type of trophy deer management, and call it QDM. Well, after reading that link agian, probably not. They just do a QDM without the doe harvest.

    http://www.qdma.com/qdm/deer-mgmt-strat.asp

    mossboss
    La Crescent, MN
    Posts: 2792
    #398262

    Brian and anyone else interested:

    Here is a link that describes the differences in management philosophies. I think many practice a type of trophy deer management, and call it QDM. Well, after reading that link agian, probably not. They just do a QDM without the doe harvest.

    http://www.qdma.com/qdm/deer-mgmt-strat.asp

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #12393

    Rob is this the post you were referring to?

    Here’s some logic for ya….

    Quote:


    Slop there was a post earlier this year that was some great reads about QDM. Try to find it. If anyone else can, please link it here!


    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #398266

    Rob is this the post you were referring to?

    Here’s some logic for ya….

    Quote:


    Slop there was a post earlier this year that was some great reads about QDM. Try to find it. If anyone else can, please link it here!


    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #12396

    Moss Boss, thanks!

    That is the one Steve!

    robstenger
    Northern Twin Cities, MN
    Posts: 11374
    #398269

    Moss Boss, thanks!

    That is the one Steve!

    kizew
    Dallas, WI
    Posts: 1003
    #12423

    The best explanation I found on this subject and still use today was from Dick Idol’s book on hunting the 4 stages of the rut.Given the scientific fact that 10 percent of the doe herd is in estrous in the same 36 hour period, if your doe to buck ratio was 10 to one and there were 100 does to 10 bucks, when the 10 percent of the does come in estrous all 10 bucks get to breed, not just the most dominant bucks. When the next 10 percent comes into estrous the cyle repeats itself. It makes sense to me and we kick the snot out of the does. It has helped our herd immensely.

    Remember not too long ago in Wisconsin when there were no T-zones or bonus tags? We had Party permits where a group of 4 hunters would apply for a permit to shoot a doe. Were there more big bucks then?
    NO!!

    kizew
    Dallas, WI
    Posts: 1003
    #398323

    The best explanation I found on this subject and still use today was from Dick Idol’s book on hunting the 4 stages of the rut.Given the scientific fact that 10 percent of the doe herd is in estrous in the same 36 hour period, if your doe to buck ratio was 10 to one and there were 100 does to 10 bucks, when the 10 percent of the does come in estrous all 10 bucks get to breed, not just the most dominant bucks. When the next 10 percent comes into estrous the cyle repeats itself. It makes sense to me and we kick the snot out of the does. It has helped our herd immensely.

    Remember not too long ago in Wisconsin when there were no T-zones or bonus tags? We had Party permits where a group of 4 hunters would apply for a permit to shoot a doe. Were there more big bucks then?
    NO!!

    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #12428

    Thats right, take a few more does and add some alfalfa that stays green all winter and in a few years you’ve got a heck of a herd.

    mossydan
    Cedar Rapids, Iowa
    Posts: 7727
    #398337

    Thats right, take a few more does and add some alfalfa that stays green all winter and in a few years you’ve got a heck of a herd.

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