Lease question???

  • Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #198468

    Guys I need some help here I have a peace of property that I have been bow hunting for 5 years, I have a verbal agreement with the land owner for exclusive hunting privileges. The land owner lives in Florida and leases the land out to a farmer. The problem I am running into is there are other people hunting the land that think they have permission to hunt there. One guy says he has a hunting lease with the leaser, our local Game warden tells me that he is in the wrong he needs to go thru the owner for such a lease. Another guy has permission from an adjoining property but he is actually going beyond the property line and hunting on the land that I have permission to hunt. I am sure the land owner will be willing to have some kind of written agreement ( a lease for hunting rights) with myself. I want to make it easy for him and have something already written that I can send to him. Anyone know where I can find a standard hunting lease to send the land owner? The other question I have with a hunting lease in hand do I as the leaser have the right to kick off trespassers or does this have to come from the land owner. The sheriff told me that just having exclusive permission to hunt the land does not give me the right to run off trespassers, I did not think to ask him at the time if this would change if I had a lease.

    bill_cadwell
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 12607
    #10014

    I would be very carefull and let the law enforcement handle it. You don’t want them shooting at you if you know what I mean. One bunch of hunters killed is more than enough.
    Thanks, Bill

    bill_cadwell
    Rochester, Minnesota
    Posts: 12607
    #385817

    I would be very carefull and let the law enforcement handle it. You don’t want them shooting at you if you know what I mean. One bunch of hunters killed is more than enough.
    Thanks, Bill

    kizew
    Dallas, WI
    Posts: 1003
    #10015

    Steve michiganfarmbureau .com has hunting lease agreements on their site. In regards to giving trespassers the boot, I believe it will vary by state. In Wisconsin the DNR does not enforce trespass and the Barron County Sheriff’s department will only enforce trespass when contacted by the landowner. Never a more gray area in my opinion. I stopped leasing land for that reason in itself.

    kizew
    Dallas, WI
    Posts: 1003
    #385818

    Steve michiganfarmbureau .com has hunting lease agreements on their site. In regards to giving trespassers the boot, I believe it will vary by state. In Wisconsin the DNR does not enforce trespass and the Barron County Sheriff’s department will only enforce trespass when contacted by the landowner. Never a more gray area in my opinion. I stopped leasing land for that reason in itself.

    barebackjack
    New Prague, MN.
    Posts: 1023
    #10023

    I would have to say if you show a person the lease they would respect it if they have any ethics at all. It seems odd that a guy that does not even own land is leasing it to another individual, did you bring that to the actual landowners attention?

    barebackjack
    New Prague, MN.
    Posts: 1023
    #385856

    I would have to say if you show a person the lease they would respect it if they have any ethics at all. It seems odd that a guy that does not even own land is leasing it to another individual, did you bring that to the actual landowners attention?

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #10025

    Let me rephrase the second part of my question. As it is now I just have a verbal agreement with the land owner for exclusive hunting rights. I can not call law enforcement if someone is trespassing it would have to be the land owner, he lives in Florida I do not want to bother him with this because he will not want to be bothered with it. My question is if I have a lease for hunting rights will I be able to call law enforcement if someone is trespassing on the land?

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    I would be very carefull and let the law enforcement handle it. You don’t want them shooting at you if you know what I mean. One bunch of hunters killed is more than enough.
    Thanks, Bill


    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #385870

    Let me rephrase the second part of my question. As it is now I just have a verbal agreement with the land owner for exclusive hunting rights. I can not call law enforcement if someone is trespassing it would have to be the land owner, he lives in Florida I do not want to bother him with this because he will not want to be bothered with it. My question is if I have a lease for hunting rights will I be able to call law enforcement if someone is trespassing on the land?

    Quote:


    I would be very carefull and let the law enforcement handle it. You don’t want them shooting at you if you know what I mean. One bunch of hunters killed is more than enough.
    Thanks, Bill


    whitetails4ever
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 756
    #10043

    Couldn’t you have it written up in the lease that way? Meaning you have the rights to police the property.

    whitetails4ever
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 756
    #385938

    Couldn’t you have it written up in the lease that way? Meaning you have the rights to police the property.

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #10042

    You can pretty much write anything you want into a lease weather it is leagal or will hold up in court that is another question, looking for feedback from others that have a lease.

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    Couldn’t you have it written up in the lease that way? Meaning you have the rights to police the property.


    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #385937

    You can pretty much write anything you want into a lease weather it is leagal or will hold up in court that is another question, looking for feedback from others that have a lease.

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    Couldn’t you have it written up in the lease that way? Meaning you have the rights to police the property.


    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18631
    #10054

    Maybe talk to the farmer who leases and explain situation. I’m guessing that if you bother the owner with this too much he will figure it’s more trouble than it’s worth. Sorry you have to deal with it.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18631
    #386017

    Maybe talk to the farmer who leases and explain situation. I’m guessing that if you bother the owner with this too much he will figure it’s more trouble than it’s worth. Sorry you have to deal with it.

    mike_utley
    Zumbrota, MN
    Posts: 578
    #10071

    Where we used to have exclusive rights to hunt, we now share land with other hunters. Makes it difficult when family owned the land and now they don’t, we feel were still at home, but in reality were visitors also. I usually wait to talk with others at their vehicle after dark or late morning to simply let them know where I’m at and then be sure they know who’s land they are hunting.

    I think having a signed agreement might be helpful in that you could show other hunters you have signed, written permission from the land owner. If you show it to them, the might just leave on their own knowing they don’t have anything similar.

    I’m not sure where your at exactly in SE MN, but I know the warden quite well in Wabasha. He’d likely be willing to answer your questions over the phone – or he simply may patrol the area and check a few hunters a little more often.

    mike_utley
    Zumbrota, MN
    Posts: 578
    #386149

    Where we used to have exclusive rights to hunt, we now share land with other hunters. Makes it difficult when family owned the land and now they don’t, we feel were still at home, but in reality were visitors also. I usually wait to talk with others at their vehicle after dark or late morning to simply let them know where I’m at and then be sure they know who’s land they are hunting.

    I think having a signed agreement might be helpful in that you could show other hunters you have signed, written permission from the land owner. If you show it to them, the might just leave on their own knowing they don’t have anything similar.

    I’m not sure where your at exactly in SE MN, but I know the warden quite well in Wabasha. He’d likely be willing to answer your questions over the phone – or he simply may patrol the area and check a few hunters a little more often.

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