MN to ban Deer Stands on public Property?

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http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/columnists/chris_niskanen/10694240.htm?1cv

This has me burned. If it’s PUBLIC land, don’t I have a right to use it too? How many trees have you cut down in your life, really? It’s a drop in the bucket. And anyone who’s ever tried to hunt northern St. Louis county MN, WITHOUT A STAND, will understand why this is so offensive.

There has to be a compromise on this issue. Call your legislator and let him know how you feel. I sure will!

Rootski

Steve that link take you to a page that asks for a password.

Steve that link take you to a page that asks for a password.

Nuts. I don’t know why that happened. In today’s St. Paul Pioneer Press Outdoors section, Chris Niskanen has an article discussing the banning of permanent deer stands on public land. He suggests that this has become a problem because people are using ATV’s to haul building materials into the woods and building elaborate tree houses. He doesn’t say who is behind this. It sounds like something the anti-hunters would come up with. I hope it isn’t the logging industry as Deer hunters have traditionally supported them.

I’d sure hate to see an outright ban. Again, if this is public property then I don’t see why I don’t have any right to use it too. Deer stands and deer hunting have a minimal effect on the woods, we aren’t cutting down hundreds of trees.

I’m suggesting there has to be a comprimised position here. Maybe limits on how elaborate a stand can be built and a ban on the size of trees that can be dropped to clear a shooting lane. Most resonable people wouldn’t have a problem with that. If I couldn’t put a stand up at all the chances of even seeing a deer become very small where I hunt!

If you go to http://www.pioneerplanet.com and do some digging you can find the article online. I don’t know what’s up with the password deal. Maybe someone who’s better with this computer stuff can figure it out.

Rootski

Nuts. I don’t know why that happened. In today’s St. Paul Pioneer Press Outdoors section, Chris Niskanen has an article discussing the banning of permanent deer stands on public land. He suggests that this has become a problem because people are using ATV’s to haul building materials into the woods and building elaborate tree houses. He doesn’t say who is behind this. It sounds like something the anti-hunters would come up with. I hope it isn’t the logging industry as Deer hunters have traditionally supported them.

I’d sure hate to see an outright ban. Again, if this is public property then I don’t see why I don’t have any right to use it too. Deer stands and deer hunting have a minimal effect on the woods, we aren’t cutting down hundreds of trees.

I’m suggesting there has to be a comprimised position here. Maybe limits on how elaborate a stand can be built and a ban on the size of trees that can be dropped to clear a shooting lane. Most resonable people wouldn’t have a problem with that. If I couldn’t put a stand up at all the chances of even seeing a deer become very small where I hunt!

If you go to http://www.pioneerplanet.com and do some digging you can find the article online. I don’t know what’s up with the password deal. Maybe someone who’s better with this computer stuff can figure it out.

Rootski

Hey Roosky, down here in Iowa a person can’t build any kind of temporary or permanent stand in a tree. Its not possible to even put a nail in a tree. I know its nice to have a permanent stand too hunt from, its legal on private land but not on public land. On a positive side of this is a person dosen’t see any old broken down stands. No lumber on the ground from them falling apart. The trees are in the same condition all year long. Although it would be nice too cut shooting lanes for a stand a person can’t alter any tree at all. I know this may rubb the wrong way with some thoughts but the woods are always pristine with these laws here. I can see the plus side of this procedure as the woods will always be in the same shape year round. I remember when it was legal to build stands and there were quite a few of them falling apart as the hunters would abandon them and not take them down when done using them. It got to be kind of an eyesore when it came to this. If they do pass the law up there its seen as not such a bad one down here.

Hey Roosky, down here in Iowa a person can’t build any kind of temporary or permanent stand in a tree. Its not possible to even put a nail in a tree. I know its nice to have a permanent stand too hunt from, its legal on private land but not on public land. On a positive side of this is a person dosen’t see any old broken down stands. No lumber on the ground from them falling apart. The trees are in the same condition all year long. Although it would be nice too cut shooting lanes for a stand a person can’t alter any tree at all. I know this may rubb the wrong way with some thoughts but the woods are always pristine with these laws here. I can see the plus side of this procedure as the woods will always be in the same shape year round. I remember when it was legal to build stands and there were quite a few of them falling apart as the hunters would abandon them and not take them down when done using them. It got to be kind of an eyesore when it came to this. If they do pass the law up there its seen as not such a bad one down here.

It’s illegal in WI to have a perma-stand on public land….and i see the logic behind it…

Just because one person builds a stand, that doesnt’ mean another couldn’t come across it and use it…Then you show up and get mad, and there a repeat of what happened earlier this year….

It’s really not that big of deal, just time to get a climber

It’s illegal in WI to have a perma-stand on public land….and i see the logic behind it…

Just because one person builds a stand, that doesnt’ mean another couldn’t come across it and use it…Then you show up and get mad, and there a repeat of what happened earlier this year….

It’s really not that big of deal, just time to get a climber

Exactly, having permanent stands in the woods is nothing more than an eyesore. People build them, use them for a short while, and abandon them. If I wanted to see garbage and old rotten lumber, I would go to the landfill I have several stands and not one of them does damage to the trees and I can carry them in and out each time, if I choose to do so. And like Slop alluded to, people could/would get upset if someone were in “their” stand when they decided to hunt. The public land is just that, public. Putting permenant stands in the woods is like saying this spot is “yours” and some people think they then have claim to the area.

Exactly, having permanent stands in the woods is nothing more than an eyesore. People build them, use them for a short while, and abandon them. If I wanted to see garbage and old rotten lumber, I would go to the landfill I have several stands and not one of them does damage to the trees and I can carry them in and out each time, if I choose to do so. And like Slop alluded to, people could/would get upset if someone were in “their” stand when they decided to hunt. The public land is just that, public. Putting permenant stands in the woods is like saying this spot is “yours” and some people think they then have claim to the area.

I agree with the rules in Iowa you can’t put a nail in a tree on public lands. I hunted Kains Switch for years with my portable ladder stands and a summit climbing stand with no problems. You shouldn’t be cutting live trees anyway weren’t you ever in the Boy Scouts?

I agree with the rules in Iowa you can’t put a nail in a tree on public lands. I hunted Kains Switch for years with my portable ladder stands and a summit climbing stand with no problems. You shouldn’t be cutting live trees anyway weren’t you ever in the Boy Scouts?

Here are the current regs for elevated stands in MN.

Elevated Stands
• No person may take deer from a constructed platform or other
structure that is higher than 16 feet above the ground. This restriction
does not apply to a portable stand that is chained, belted,
clamped, or tied with rope.
• In Wildlife Management Areas and State Parks open to hunting
(see pages 76, 81, 82, 85, 119-121), only portable stands may be
used. They must not be left overnight. Portable stand use is
encouraged in State Forests (see page 128-129).
• In Scientific and Natural Areas open to hunting, no stands
(including portable stands) may be used (see pages 131-132).
• Any permanent stand on public land when not in use is considered
public and not the property of the person who constructed the
stand. Any use of threat or force against another person to gain
possession of a stand is unlawful.

I also agree that when a permanent stand becomes abandoned they can become an eye sore, with a portable you have allot more flexibility to move to a new location.

Here are the current regs for elevated stands in MN.

Elevated Stands
• No person may take deer from a constructed platform or other
structure that is higher than 16 feet above the ground. This restriction
does not apply to a portable stand that is chained, belted,
clamped, or tied with rope.
• In Wildlife Management Areas and State Parks open to hunting
(see pages 76, 81, 82, 85, 119-121), only portable stands may be
used. They must not be left overnight. Portable stand use is
encouraged in State Forests (see page 128-129).
• In Scientific and Natural Areas open to hunting, no stands
(including portable stands) may be used (see pages 131-132).
• Any permanent stand on public land when not in use is considered
public and not the property of the person who constructed the
stand. Any use of threat or force against another person to gain
possession of a stand is unlawful.

I also agree that when a permanent stand becomes abandoned they can become an eye sore, with a portable you have allot more flexibility to move to a new location.

Slop,

OK, maybe it’s time for me to take alook at a decent portable stand. First off I’m 6-1, about 220 pounds, and I’m 49 years old. And I’m a busted up old hockey player. Spiderman I ain’t….So what do you guys like. Are they heavy, how hard are they to get in and out of, any other suggestions welcome. Thanks!

Rootski

Slop,

OK, maybe it’s time for me to take alook at a decent portable stand. First off I’m 6-1, about 220 pounds, and I’m 49 years old. And I’m a busted up old hockey player. Spiderman I ain’t….So what do you guys like. Are they heavy, how hard are they to get in and out of, any other suggestions welcome. Thanks!

Rootski

My choice would be to take a good look at the Summit line of stands. They are very well built, easy to climb with, and very safe.

My choice would be to take a good look at the Summit line of stands. They are very well built, easy to climb with, and very safe.

I agree on Summit….I’m 235 and i can haul mine around pretty easy, and i feel very confortable in it…

They come w/a variety of models, some more complex that others, take a look

http://www.summitstands.com/catalog.aspx?catID=ClimbingTreestandsProducts

I agree on Summit….I’m 235 and i can haul mine around pretty easy, and i feel very confortable in it…

They come w/a variety of models, some more complex that others, take a look

http://www.summitstands.com/catalog.aspx?catID=ClimbingTreestandsProducts

If you are gun hunting and in the stand all day the Tree Lounge is a great stand, also very safe and very comfortable, I love mine.

If you are gun hunting and in the stand all day the Tree Lounge is a great stand, also very safe and very comfortable, I love mine.

You might end up liking the abillity to hunt many different areas and trees with a portable. Some I have been in where alot more comfortable than the old wooden stand. One good idea is to chain and padlock your portable if you plan on leaveing it out over night. This is even a good idea on private land. You never know who might come by.

You might end up liking the abillity to hunt many different areas and trees with a portable. Some I have been in where alot more comfortable than the old wooden stand. One good idea is to chain and padlock your portable if you plan on leaveing it out over night. This is even a good idea on private land. You never know who might come by.