broadheads

  • jason26
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 380
    #198249

    I know there are differences in opions on mechanical broadheads, and i have read opinions on many bowhunting forums on the subject. I was wondering what u guys on this forum think of them. I have read many of your post on here and feel like i know u all a bit and trust your guys opinions. So i was just wanting to hear your opinions on them and if u use them or not.

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #5241

    Yep, it is definitely controversial, but here is my opinion I use them and I like them, but I also like my Thunderheads. I have had excellent results with the Wasp Jac-Hammers as well as the Spitfires. I have never had one fail or fall to pieces after the shot. But, they have limits, just like anything else. If you shoot a bow with little kinetic energy, they could cause problems. I also have only used them on whitetails, so I cannot tell you how they perform on bigger game such as elk.
    You will find when talking about broadheads it falls under the same situation as politics, religion, and women There are those who love them and those who hate them.

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #335556

    Yep, it is definitely controversial, but here is my opinion I use them and I like them, but I also like my Thunderheads. I have had excellent results with the Wasp Jac-Hammers as well as the Spitfires. I have never had one fail or fall to pieces after the shot. But, they have limits, just like anything else. If you shoot a bow with little kinetic energy, they could cause problems. I also have only used them on whitetails, so I cannot tell you how they perform on bigger game such as elk.
    You will find when talking about broadheads it falls under the same situation as politics, religion, and women There are those who love them and those who hate them.

    big water
    Andover ,MN
    Posts: 291
    #5242

    muzzy’s rock!!!!

    big water
    Andover ,MN
    Posts: 291
    #335558

    muzzy’s rock!!!!

    Eric Rehberg
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 3071
    #5243

    I myself use muzzy’s and probally always will. The one thing with mech. is that if you shoot carbon arrows or a low poundage of bow i would say dont use the mech broadheads. There just isnt enough weith behind the broadhead to keep it going once it hits the animal. The other thing i like about muzzy’s or any fixed blade is that most of the blades are replaceable so if just the blades are dull you just have to buy blades and not the whole broadhead. I also like the fixed blades because there is no worry if they are going to open. I have also heard of people that use them and they say they do not get very good penetration when shooting behind the shoulder into the ribs. I think it is mostly because they open so wide and can not fit between two ribs. If i were you i would go with the fixed blades and i strongly recomend the muzzy’s.
    Just my 2 cents.

    Any other comments would be great.

    Walleye Fool

    Eric Rehberg
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 3071
    #335559

    I myself use muzzy’s and probally always will. The one thing with mech. is that if you shoot carbon arrows or a low poundage of bow i would say dont use the mech broadheads. There just isnt enough weith behind the broadhead to keep it going once it hits the animal. The other thing i like about muzzy’s or any fixed blade is that most of the blades are replaceable so if just the blades are dull you just have to buy blades and not the whole broadhead. I also like the fixed blades because there is no worry if they are going to open. I have also heard of people that use them and they say they do not get very good penetration when shooting behind the shoulder into the ribs. I think it is mostly because they open so wide and can not fit between two ribs. If i were you i would go with the fixed blades and i strongly recomend the muzzy’s.
    Just my 2 cents.

    Any other comments would be great.

    Walleye Fool

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #5244

    I use carbon arrows and shoot 63# out of my Diamond Machete bow. I have had all but 1 arrow pass thru the deer I have shot. The one that didn’t pass thru was due to blowing through the on side shoulder and lodging in the off side shoulder. They leave great blood trails and short ones at that I will not beleive that the broadheads do not open up, the way they are designed they have to open. The blades may be closed when you retreive the arrow but that is caused when the head comes out the other side, the torque slams them back shut. I will however agree they should not be used with low kinetic energy producing bows. The spitfires do have replaceable blades as well as some of the other brands. My bow is tuned very well so I can throw on a mechanical head or my trusty Thunderheads without any adjustments needed. They are great because they do have such large cutting diameters, but well placed fixed head will bring them down just as easily.

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #335563

    I use carbon arrows and shoot 63# out of my Diamond Machete bow. I have had all but 1 arrow pass thru the deer I have shot. The one that didn’t pass thru was due to blowing through the on side shoulder and lodging in the off side shoulder. They leave great blood trails and short ones at that I will not beleive that the broadheads do not open up, the way they are designed they have to open. The blades may be closed when you retreive the arrow but that is caused when the head comes out the other side, the torque slams them back shut. I will however agree they should not be used with low kinetic energy producing bows. The spitfires do have replaceable blades as well as some of the other brands. My bow is tuned very well so I can throw on a mechanical head or my trusty Thunderheads without any adjustments needed. They are great because they do have such large cutting diameters, but well placed fixed head will bring them down just as easily.

    hodge91
    La Crosse WI
    Posts: 158
    #5245

    I have shot the WASP Jak Hammers for years, including the 75 gr. Never a problem and always pass thru shots. I normaly shoot the 100’s with carbon arrows and 31″ draw and about 85 lbs. These have been accurate at longer distances also and a very tough blade and tip combination.

    hodge91
    La Crosse WI
    Posts: 158
    #335568

    I have shot the WASP Jak Hammers for years, including the 75 gr. Never a problem and always pass thru shots. I normaly shoot the 100’s with carbon arrows and 31″ draw and about 85 lbs. These have been accurate at longer distances also and a very tough blade and tip combination.

    zimmy101
    Hager City Wisconsin
    Posts: 946
    #5246

    Quote:


    I have shot the WASP Jak Hammers for years, including the 75 gr. Never a problem and always pass thru shots. I normaly shoot the 100’s with carbon arrows and 31″ draw and about 85 lbs. These have been accurate at longer distances also and a very tough blade and tip combination.


    WOW! You have a 31″ draw and pull 85 lbs. You must be one big boy there.
    If you don’t mind me askin… what kind and size arrow are you shootin with that poundage???

    zimmy101
    Hager City Wisconsin
    Posts: 946
    #335583

    Quote:


    I have shot the WASP Jak Hammers for years, including the 75 gr. Never a problem and always pass thru shots. I normaly shoot the 100’s with carbon arrows and 31″ draw and about 85 lbs. These have been accurate at longer distances also and a very tough blade and tip combination.


    WOW! You have a 31″ draw and pull 85 lbs. You must be one big boy there.
    If you don’t mind me askin… what kind and size arrow are you shootin with that poundage???

    HYBES
    SE MN
    Posts: 284
    #5247

    After trying many,I prefer Muzzys hands down. I know to many guys(including myself)that have had mechanicals fail.An outfitter of mine in Iowa will not let his clients use mechanicals due to bad experiences with them. Why take the chance with a shot of a lifetime.With a fixed head you know its going to cut(if you hit it….)

    HYBES
    SE MN
    Posts: 284
    #335623

    After trying many,I prefer Muzzys hands down. I know to many guys(including myself)that have had mechanicals fail.An outfitter of mine in Iowa will not let his clients use mechanicals due to bad experiences with them. Why take the chance with a shot of a lifetime.With a fixed head you know its going to cut(if you hit it….)

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #5248

    Zimmy-I don’t think they make a bow that Hodge can’t draw And to put it mildly, he is a very big dude I am 6’3″ and I look up to talk to him

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #335632

    Zimmy-I don’t think they make a bow that Hodge can’t draw And to put it mildly, he is a very big dude I am 6’3″ and I look up to talk to him

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #5249

    ***WARNING-I am jumping way up on a soap box. This is not intended at anyone directly, only my rant and opinion****
    This topic has been eating at me all day and I need to rant. First off everybody has the choice on what they do in life, in this case what broadhead they prefer. I get really tired of all the trash talk about the mechanical heads on the market. Yes, there are some that are not the best design, but still deadly. There are plenty on the market that are very effective.
    The part that bothers me the most is the people who complain the loudest have never used the mechanical heads. If a person does not have personal experience using them, they should not voice their opinions on them. Facts are all I care about, you got to know what you are talking about, not hearsay.
    The biggest problem behind the nay sayers is fear of change. I mean really, if change is so bad, why are we not still using a rock that we chipped into a broadhead like the cave men? People get so set in their ways, that they just cannot look ahead to better things. Just think if we applied the same logic toward fishing. We would still be using a sinker and a hook. Plastics to catch walleye, impossible!!! I still hear people say they do things because that is the way their granpa and dad did it, so that is the way to do it .
    As far as outfitters denying customers the right to use a mechanical broadhead? Have they ever looked into human error, and not equipment failure? A bad shot is a bad shot no matter what head was used. It is way to easy to blame the equipment instead of some half hearted “hunter” who hunts once a year that doesn’t know proper placement or know his equipment. I hate to admit it, but I have made some bad shots that resulted in unrecovered animals. Guess what, it was the Thunderhead broadhead on the end of the arrow. But, on the other end of the arrow was an inexperienced hunter who made a bad shot . I have never lost an animal with a mechanical head. I would like to hear what the “bad ecperiences” were. Was the animal recovered? If not, how in the world can we blame the mechanical head? If it was recovered, where was the animal hit?
    Basically what I am getting at is this. Don’t talk about things if you don’t have the experience or the facts to back them up. This post in not intended to slam any of the other posts on this topic. This topic gets beat on just about every hunting web site with the same things being repeated over and over every year. If you are uncomfortable with change, that is fine, stick with what you are comfortable with. Confidence is a big part of being a successful hunter.
    I am now jumping off my soap box

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #335687

    ***WARNING-I am jumping way up on a soap box. This is not intended at anyone directly, only my rant and opinion****
    This topic has been eating at me all day and I need to rant. First off everybody has the choice on what they do in life, in this case what broadhead they prefer. I get really tired of all the trash talk about the mechanical heads on the market. Yes, there are some that are not the best design, but still deadly. There are plenty on the market that are very effective.
    The part that bothers me the most is the people who complain the loudest have never used the mechanical heads. If a person does not have personal experience using them, they should not voice their opinions on them. Facts are all I care about, you got to know what you are talking about, not hearsay.
    The biggest problem behind the nay sayers is fear of change. I mean really, if change is so bad, why are we not still using a rock that we chipped into a broadhead like the cave men? People get so set in their ways, that they just cannot look ahead to better things. Just think if we applied the same logic toward fishing. We would still be using a sinker and a hook. Plastics to catch walleye, impossible!!! I still hear people say they do things because that is the way their granpa and dad did it, so that is the way to do it .
    As far as outfitters denying customers the right to use a mechanical broadhead? Have they ever looked into human error, and not equipment failure? A bad shot is a bad shot no matter what head was used. It is way to easy to blame the equipment instead of some half hearted “hunter” who hunts once a year that doesn’t know proper placement or know his equipment. I hate to admit it, but I have made some bad shots that resulted in unrecovered animals. Guess what, it was the Thunderhead broadhead on the end of the arrow. But, on the other end of the arrow was an inexperienced hunter who made a bad shot . I have never lost an animal with a mechanical head. I would like to hear what the “bad ecperiences” were. Was the animal recovered? If not, how in the world can we blame the mechanical head? If it was recovered, where was the animal hit?
    Basically what I am getting at is this. Don’t talk about things if you don’t have the experience or the facts to back them up. This post in not intended to slam any of the other posts on this topic. This topic gets beat on just about every hunting web site with the same things being repeated over and over every year. If you are uncomfortable with change, that is fine, stick with what you are comfortable with. Confidence is a big part of being a successful hunter.
    I am now jumping off my soap box

    Jeremiah Shaver
    La Crosse, WI
    Posts: 4941
    #5250

    I won’t use anything BUT mechanicals….

    Jeremiah Shaver
    La Crosse, WI
    Posts: 4941
    #335697

    I won’t use anything BUT mechanicals….

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #5252

    Good topic here guys, I have never used mechanicals so I can not comment on them, so it’s good to hear all the different opinions on them. I have always used Rocky Mountain three blade broadheads, I shoot a Golden Eagle Predator, it is a compound with no cams and I shoot 55lbs with carbon arrows. So from what others have said here I probably would be better off not going to a mechanical Brodhead. My philosophy for bow hunting has been to keep things simple, my set up works for me but that’s not to say that this set up is for everyone, use what works and feels comfortable for you. I guess I am one of those old guys who is stuck in his ways and does not like change.

    Steve Plantz
    SE MN
    Posts: 12240
    #335772

    Good topic here guys, I have never used mechanicals so I can not comment on them, so it’s good to hear all the different opinions on them. I have always used Rocky Mountain three blade broadheads, I shoot a Golden Eagle Predator, it is a compound with no cams and I shoot 55lbs with carbon arrows. So from what others have said here I probably would be better off not going to a mechanical Brodhead. My philosophy for bow hunting has been to keep things simple, my set up works for me but that’s not to say that this set up is for everyone, use what works and feels comfortable for you. I guess I am one of those old guys who is stuck in his ways and does not like change.

    jason26
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 380
    #5254

    Well guys I have never shot a mechanical, but i do not see anything wrong with them. I have been wanting to try the rocky mountain snypers and may do so. Not 100% sure if i will thought because my fixed blade heads have always worked. I guess I just like tring new things(lol not really i finally bought a release after 13 years of shooting). Last fall i hit the fork of a young tree when shooting at a nice buck. After looking at the tree and how it was cut by my broadhead i beleave a mechanical head would of never hit the branch. but who knows but this i what got me thinking about using them. before that i never even considered them. Not cause i have anything against thme just cause i had no reason to switch. btw, i dont shoot through brush it was low light and that was the only branch on the edge of my shooting lane and with low light i couldnt see it. didnt know if my message made it sound like i take marginal shots or not but i dont.

    jason26
    Cedar Falls, IA
    Posts: 380
    #335863

    Well guys I have never shot a mechanical, but i do not see anything wrong with them. I have been wanting to try the rocky mountain snypers and may do so. Not 100% sure if i will thought because my fixed blade heads have always worked. I guess I just like tring new things(lol not really i finally bought a release after 13 years of shooting). Last fall i hit the fork of a young tree when shooting at a nice buck. After looking at the tree and how it was cut by my broadhead i beleave a mechanical head would of never hit the branch. but who knows but this i what got me thinking about using them. before that i never even considered them. Not cause i have anything against thme just cause i had no reason to switch. btw, i dont shoot through brush it was low light and that was the only branch on the edge of my shooting lane and with low light i couldnt see it. didnt know if my message made it sound like i take marginal shots or not but i dont.

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #5255

    You know, those little branches grow right at the end of shooting time, and only when you draw on a deer . I have had a few of those branches that you could have swore were not there before, get in the way

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #335866

    You know, those little branches grow right at the end of shooting time, and only when you draw on a deer . I have had a few of those branches that you could have swore were not there before, get in the way

    Eric Rehberg
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 3071
    #5256

    I am not in total disagree with mechanical broadheads at all. i just think there is the right time and place for them and the wrong. I hunt with one guy that uses mechanical broadheads and have had many many long and i mean long nights in the woods trailing deer. im not saying it is just the broadheads it is his shoot placement sometimes also. But the one time that really seemed to turn me away from using them was when he was shooting at a doe at 35 yards away in a field. He had nothing in the way and had a perfect shot placement right behind the shoulder. When i watched his arrow release it hit the deer and BOUNCED right back off. now remember this is at 35 yards and he also shoots a 65 pound bow. The arrow and broadhead did everything they were suppose to and it just bounced off the deer. That to me was the biggest reason why i do not believe in them. I know this is my own experiences and that is why its my opinion. Im not disagreeing with people that use them i myself just dont care for them.

    My 2 cents.

    Walleye Fool

    Eric Rehberg
    Eau Claire, WI
    Posts: 3071
    #335924

    I am not in total disagree with mechanical broadheads at all. i just think there is the right time and place for them and the wrong. I hunt with one guy that uses mechanical broadheads and have had many many long and i mean long nights in the woods trailing deer. im not saying it is just the broadheads it is his shoot placement sometimes also. But the one time that really seemed to turn me away from using them was when he was shooting at a doe at 35 yards away in a field. He had nothing in the way and had a perfect shot placement right behind the shoulder. When i watched his arrow release it hit the deer and BOUNCED right back off. now remember this is at 35 yards and he also shoots a 65 pound bow. The arrow and broadhead did everything they were suppose to and it just bounced off the deer. That to me was the biggest reason why i do not believe in them. I know this is my own experiences and that is why its my opinion. Im not disagreeing with people that use them i myself just dont care for them.

    My 2 cents.

    Walleye Fool

    eronningen
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 1885
    #5388

    Just so you all know…My opinion is based on a best friends luck with mech. broadheads. We hunt the same farm all the time and always converse, so its not hear say.
    My bud shot 2 different bucks this year at under 25 yards each. The first one hit behind the front shoulder, the other mid. to high in the behind the shoulder area. Neither arrow penetrated farther than 4″ at most. Hardly any blood, we combed large sections for a couple days each just to make sure.
    Now..This was the first year for him to switch. He has shot fixed for more years than I’ve been alive and killed quite a few 125″+ deer. (So he’s no rookie.) He switched because he had heard alot of the good things about mech. broadheads. But as mentioned earlier, it may take a higher poundage draw than what he has. 60-63# area. I believe that may be the hidden key to making them perform……But thats my opinion. Please don’t bash me.

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