Dakota Lithium or Energized Outdoors??

  • Tyler Lindstrom
    Northern MN
    Posts: 20
    #1809674

    I have a dakota lithium battery but just wondering if the energized outdoors batteries are just as good?

    Jake Hendrickson
    Inactive
    Madison, WI
    Posts: 209
    #1809689

    i talked to a staff member of theirs and he told me that the energized outdoor batteries were built for cold and outdoor use, where the dakota batteries were built for motorized wheel chair use originally. they are supposed to hold a 12.5+ V charge longer. I just got one in the mail today actually so I am excited to see how it compares, as I’ve been using a Dakota for the last 3 years now.

    Cameron white
    Posts: 516
    #1809724

    i talked to a staff member of theirs and he told me that the energized outdoor batteries were built for cold and outdoor use, where the dakota batteries were built for motorized wheel chair use originally. they are supposed to hold a 12.5+ V charge longer. I just got one in the mail today actually so I am excited to see how it compares, as I’ve been using a Dakota for the last 3 years now.

    Lol. Dakota’s operating range is -20F to +120F. They are both the same.

    Jake Hendrickson
    Inactive
    Madison, WI
    Posts: 209
    #1809817

    Lol. Dakota’s operating range is -20F to +120F. They are both the same.
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    Just stating what I was told, I see they both run the same temperature ranges, but was told the Energized was built to maintain a longer voltage charge in the colder temps.

    Cameron white
    Posts: 516
    #1809820

    Lol. Dakota’s operating range is -20F to +120F. They are both the same.

    Just stating what I was told, I see they both run the same temperature ranges, but was told the Energized was built to maintain a longer voltage charge in the colder temps.
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    Energized buys batteries made in China, Dakota manufactures them in North Dakota from Chinese components. I would be curious to see the specs to confirm that.

    bigcrappie
    Blaine
    Posts: 4330
    #1809827

    They are probably the same battery, different name on them. The same guy in China makes them.

    Jake Hendrickson
    Inactive
    Madison, WI
    Posts: 209
    #1809835

    Energized buys batteries made in China, Dakota manufactures them in North Dakota from Chinese components. I would be curious to see the specs to confirm that.
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    Where were you able to find that information? I just did a quick search and couldnt find those answers other than Dakota is assembled in the US.

    Where they were built or assembled doesnt really prove your previous point though.

    ec1
    NULL
    Posts: 73
    #1809897

    I own the 12v 10a by Energized Outdoors. Seems to work fine but I also haven’t given it a full day test in weather that is below 32f. Slightly worried that my panoptix ice will not last a full day at 100% brightness.

    Would like to hear the differences from others if you’ve tried both.

    TimberCrappie
    Eden Prairie, MN
    Posts: 43
    #1809925

    I own the 12v 10a by Energized Outdoors. Seems to work fine but I also haven’t given it a full day test in weather that is below 32f. Slightly worried that my panoptix ice will not last a full day at 100% brightness.

    Would like to hear the differences from others if you’ve tried both.

    ec1 you will get anywhere from 8-11 hours on both running wide open.
    If you fish for more time than that…bring a second one.

    lrott2003
    Wisconsin
    Posts: 524
    #1809930

    What does everyone do over summer to keep these 12v 9-10amp batteries working from year to year? Do you put them on trickle charger or just charge periodically? I seem to have problems getting more than a season out of mine.

    ______________
    Inactive
    MN - 55082
    Posts: 1644
    #1809943

    Here’s some plotted data from a drain test I ran on the EO battery, pretty much confirms the capacity is as spec’d. If I remember, I think the drain tests I ran on the clean republic 10ah (bamboo version) was identical, within 5% of listed capacity. Both should provide similar performance.

    Attachments:
    1. 50WoutputPowercurve_EO10ah.png

    ec1
    NULL
    Posts: 73
    #1810019

    ec1 you will get anywhere from 8-11 hours on both running wide open.
    If you fish for more time than that…bring a second one.

    Amazing to know. The 12a is probably what I want to be looking for in the future. I will definitely be unplugging the panoptix transducer this winter when it is not in use to hopefully save me a little bit of juice.

    slipperybob
    Lil'Can, MN
    Posts: 1414
    #1810041

    What does everyone do over summer to keep these 12v 9-10amp batteries working from year to year? Do you put them on trickle charger or just charge periodically? I seem to have problems getting more than a season out of mine.

    Lithium battery would require even less maintenance. I wouldn’t put a trickle charger on them. Just charge every now and then.

    Cameron white
    Posts: 516
    #1810045

    Energized buys batteries made in China, Dakota manufactures them in North Dakota from Chinese components. I would be curious to see the specs to confirm that.

    Where were you able to find that information? I just did a quick search and couldnt find those answers other than Dakota is assembled in the US.

    Where they were built or assembled doesnt really prove your previous point though.
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    I’ve picked up orders from Dakota battery’s grand forks manufacturing plant. My point was, I’d like to see some sort of data that they are made to hold a better charge that dakota batteries. I’m sure energized outdoors sells a good battery, I’m just not a fan of marketing hype.

    Weasel88
    Posts: 2
    #1810105

    A little off topic….but how does the Noqua 10Ah compare to these 2 batteries? I have one for my kayak. I’m just trying to figure out if it’ll work out for my ice hut or if I should be looking at one of these two.
    (my first post on the forum)

    kayl
    Posts: 99
    #1810150

    Amazing to know. The 12a is probably what I want to be looking for in the future. I will definitely be unplugging the panoptix transducer this winter when it is not in use to hopefully save me a little bit of juice.

    Just disable the panoptix transmission and you’ll save the juice without the hassle. )

    kayl
    Posts: 99
    #1810151

    A little off topic….but how does the Noqua 10Ah compare to these 2 batteries? I have one for my kayak. I’m just trying to figure out if it’ll work out for my ice hut or if I should be looking at one of these two.
    (my first post on the forum)

    From what I could find out about the Noqua, it’s a regular lithium ion, while the Dakota and Energized Outdoors ones are LiFePO4, which are supposed to be better in the cold.

    Mark Rasmussen
    Posts: 51
    #1810193

    I’m just getting into the lithium game… I got a nocqua this past spring for my kayak at well. I like the weight savings. Question – can the charger I have for an Energized Outdoors battery work for a Dakota Lithium battery? Thinking about ordering a Dakota as well.

    Cameron white
    Posts: 516
    #1810505

    I’m just getting into the lithium game… I got a nocqua this past spring for my kayak at well. I like the weight savings. Question – can the charger I have for an Energized Outdoors battery work for a Dakota Lithium battery? Thinking about ordering a Dakota as well.

    Sure. They are both lifepo4 batteries.

    Meterman
    Posts: 21
    #1810759

    I just received two of the Energized Outdoors 12.8 V 10 AH LiFePO4 lithium ion batteriers and GC60-12F4 Chargers. I have had the charger on the battery for 2+ days and the green LED charge indicators are continuously cycling through the 25-50-75-100% positions. Is this telling me the batteries are fully charged or do I have an issue?

    Aaron Drier
    Posts: 61
    #1812001

    Having the same thing going on, but only with one of the batteries.

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