I’ve ran the Brute since last season (gotta love that Scheel’s sale last Black Friday), Runs a Helix 9, if one is careful with the settings, pretty close to 10 hours. I can run my old M5 Marcum for days. Picked up a Force this year’s sale, different chemistry, so I’m curious to see how it compares at 12ah. It’s noticeably lighter than the Brute, I can say that. I’ll be giving it a test run up at the circus this weekend so we’ll see how it goes, was really planning on it just being a back up, utility battery, but if I can get similar run time, I like the weight reduction.