thanks guys, that was a fun day. I made 5 casts, and my best guess is, the smaller fish (caught second) hit my raider twice and missed, cast 3 was the big fat mama, nothing on cast 4, and then the smaller one finally connected. I know i’m lucky to have that happen all in one day let alone in 5 casts. I didn’t get a girth on the first one (a bit excited to get the first ski of the year, i just wanted to get her back in the water.) But my brother and I figure it had to go at least 20 probably more. Good times!