lake access question?

  • rapalafisherman
    St. mary's point/Bemidji, MN
    Posts: 65
    #1228846

    Im not sure if every one has heard of lake edith? but its location is in afton, and I have been wondering where indian trail buts up to the lake if you can legally walk on and access the lake. there are private porperty signs right by where the lake damn near touches the road. I know for fact that the people that live around the lake do not want people out on the lake, and it seems like they are all apart of an anti fishing cult.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1019870

    I called the DNR about Edith years ago.

    I asked “how can they do this? Isn’t there some public land between the lake and the road?”

    The answer is “NO”.

    I don’t recall the exact reason, or how it’s written, but that area is private property up to and may include part of the road.

    There’s only small fish in there anyway.

    dandorn
    M.I.N.N.E.S.O.T.A.
    Posts: 3207
    #1019873

    Looks like you can’t fish the lake and Edith too.

    rapalafisherman
    St. mary's point/Bemidji, MN
    Posts: 65
    #1019875

    I fished it twice in a boat with a friend who knew someone, we pounded large mouth all day. How can they own part of the road? doesnt the state own 60ft both sides of the center line, and i know for a fact that the lake comes with in like 25, I was thinking on getting dropped off and walking out, but i know the cops would end up coming, and i dont really want any trouble. just want to fish.

    real small

    mwal
    Rosemount,MN
    Posts: 1050
    #1019877

    YOu have to check County plat books. Some roads do not have public right of ways.

    Mwal

    jiggin-rake
    inver grove heights, minnesota
    Posts: 857
    #1019887

    If the lake floods or rises a few feet, and you have property right up to the shoreline, do you loose property cause the water rising or do you now own a lil part of the lake? Thanks in advance

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1019893

    Quote:


    Looks like you can’t fish the lake and Edith too.


    That’s funny Dan!

    When I called it was a high water year. If I would have been dropped off with my belly boat (yes it’s a big one) I could have taken one step off the road and been in the water. There isn’t any publicly owned property on that side of the road.

    By any chance you didn’t enter on “granny’s” land did you?

    Steve Root
    South St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 5623
    #1019931

    Quote:


    Looks like you can’t fish the lake and Edith too.


    Outstanding!

    boone
    Woodbury, MN
    Posts: 935
    #1020072

    Quote:


    YOu have to check County plat books. Some roads do not have public right of ways.


    If it’s a public road that anyone can drive on, how could those types of roads not have a public right-of-way?

    Boone

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1020127

    I’ve never heard of this before I checked into it back in the late ’90’s but from what I recall it’s private land that was was allowed to have a public road built over it making the shoulder to the lake private property.

    Quote:


    An update was provided on the Lake Edith Indian Trail Access. This is a request that has been made to establish a Public Access to Lake Edith. The Parks Committee is evaluating the request.


    From the Afton Update Blog<<

    jasonlem
    New Prague
    Posts: 168
    #1020220

    There are always a road right of way a little thing I learned when surveying!! but without looking at it I couldn’t tell? I’d take the chance with the police if it looked right!!! Where is this located? I’ll go I love to prove people wrong!!!
    Jason

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #996004

    Let me know when you go…I would love to film it.

    rapalafisherman
    St. mary's point/Bemidji, MN
    Posts: 65
    #1020373

    talked to the police about it, and there is no right of way because the city of afton owns the road not the state. and apparently it is catch and release, i did not know that myself. The only way to get on is either knowing some one or walking up the creek to get on.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1020384

    From the City of Afton….

    Good Morning, Brian;

    Thank you for contacting the City of Afton with these concerns. I hope the information below answers the questions posted on the forum. Feel free to post this information to the forum as it is public data.

    The City of Afton has not stated that Lake Edith is a private lake. We have declared that Indian Trail as it abuts Lake Edith is not a public access to the Lake. Please see the attached Resolution which the City Council adopted on June 21, 2011, which states the reasoning for declaring it as a No Public Access point and authorized the posting of
    the signs.

    Sara Irvine, MCMC

    Unfortunately I can’t post the PDF file.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1020559

    Further clarification from Afton’s City Attorney.

    To clarify, Sara, this is one of many circumstances in this state where there is no access to a public lake. The waters are public. There is no right of trespass to access them.

    **********
    Frederic W. “Fritz” Knaak
    Attorney in Minnesota, Wisconsin and Colorado Knaak & Associates, P.A.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1020601

    Ok…I’m done.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18625
    #1020801

    You heard it. Public lake. Lets all throw some $ in a pot and chopper in this winter!

    mudlizard
    st. marys pt. MN
    Posts: 117
    #1021026

    We flew in to edith, yep landed a plan on edith in the late 80s. Fired up the auger, before we got the holes cut here comes the land onwers. Talk about a bunch of un happy campers, said we would be arested, washington co. said they could’nt do that. talk about a bunch of people bent out of shape, the guy that flew the plane looked at them and said he saw friendly er people in viet nam.

    mudlizard
    st. marys pt. MN
    Posts: 117
    #1021029

    This will get back to the people that live on the lake, they will have armed guards on indian trail. Drop your auger put your hands in the air. You even drive slow by their and there all over ya.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18625
    #1021532

    Makes me want to chopper in even more.

    jeff_huberty
    Inactive
    Posts: 4941
    #1021709

    I don’t think a chopper would be all that unreasonable if you were to split the cost.

    curious minds want to know

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